Deor and Dewar

A Read-only Archive of the old forum. Many useful messages and lots of family data!
Locked
Canadian Livingstone
Posts: 2780
Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:00 pm

Deor and Dewar

Post by Canadian Livingstone »

Hi Kin, Quick question. I have noticed that the Barons of Bachuil are referred to as both Deors and Dewars. I was wondering if this is the same word. Alexander Carmichael in the notes to his book "Carmina Gadelica" referred to the custodian of the Staff of St. Molaug as a "Deor" and almoner, but the Barons are also referred in other articles to as "Dewars" or coarbs. Can anyone tackle this one. regards Donald (Livingstone) Clink
User avatar
Bachuil
Posts: 91
Joined: Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:56 am

Deor and Dewar

Post by Bachuil »

Dear Donald, These simple questions have massively complex answers. An Deor is simply gaelic for 'the almoner' and the Barons of Bachuil were at one time in recent history known as such, the site of the old house known as Larach tigh nan Deora. Dewar is a surname that derives from the gaelic. The latin for almoner is eleemosynarius and our so-called charter of confirmation mentions that the grant is confirmed in puram et liberam elimosynam which translates literally into
The Baron of Bachuil,
Coarb of St Moluag
Chief of MacLea
Canadian Livingstone
Posts: 2780
Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:00 pm

Deor and Dewar

Post by Canadian Livingstone »

Hi Niall, Thanks for clarifying that. I suspect there are a number of highland clans whose ancestors were lay abbots of the early church prior to the year 1200. The MacKinnons claim to descend from hereditary abbots at Iona and I assume that the McNabs also descend from an ancestor who was a son of an early abbot. regards Donald (Livingstone) Clink
Locked