Wikipedia: Clan McLea not a Clan?

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Kyle2 MacLea

Ignorance

Post by Kyle2 MacLea »

I admit to being a bit surprised by the article, but I don't think the intention of the writer was to propagate something incorrect.
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The Heraldic trappings of a Chief

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The article has been updated to reflect the input of the Young Bachuil!
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Post by Bachuil »

I am afraid that I cannot be in the least charitable about the erroneous 'corrections' on Wikipedia. It has taught me to completely ignore Wikipedia. The Lyon Office was famously engaged with lengthy correspondence with an individual.
The Baron of Bachuil,
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Chief of MacLea
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Post by Andrew Lancaster4 »

Dear Niall Well, you can't completely ignore Wikipedia, because it is in the public realm. But on the other hand other people can judge the articles and change them, so it's better than being slandered in a newspaper in some ways. I am not sure who made the changes, but I think their comments in the discussion page show an attitude of being open to correction, so I think Kyle's corrections will stand OK. Best Regards Andrew
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Wikipedia: Clan McLea not a Clan?

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I am glad that the issue of whether the Baron is head or chief of the Highland Clan McLea is being sorted out. Judging by the discussions here there seems to be little doubt that the head of the clan is infact the chief. Regarding that MacLea article on Wikipedia I did notice that apart from the bit from Ian Moncrief's book the impact of Sir James Livingstone of Skirling on the Isle of Lismore Maconleas is just briefly discussed at the end. That was disappointing for those of us who hold Sir James Livingstone as the key to unlocking the mystery of Maconlea name change.
Kyle2 MacLea

Fleshing out the Wikipedia Article

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Hi Donald, If you want to add to the Wikipedia article and make it more complete, you are welcome to!
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Fleshing out the Wikipedia Article

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Hi Kyle, Interesting. Nice to have so many contributing. Still in the process making sense of all the information, before I submit Maconlea Livingstone info to an encyclopedia. I have been organising my notes, but the wonderful thing about a computer is that you can easily update and makes changes which I am still in process of doing. That question you asked sometime ago as to why the other McLeas did not change their name to Livingstone has been on my mind for the last while and is infact a question well worth pondering. I think the Young Bachuil has indicated in some of his info on this site that he has a general notion of the probable extent of his familie's MacLea Clan in the 18th century. Sir John Campbell of Cawdor and/or his son, Sir Donald Campbell of Airds apparently took possession of a large chunk of the Baron's orginal land holdings over the years, but the bulk of the Baron's clan were probably tenants of the Campbells anyways.
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Fleshing out the Wikipedia Article

Post by Kyle2 MacLea »

You are right on the money with your conjecture about why my family did NOT change its name like the other McLeas.
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Post by Canadian Livingstone »

Hi Kyle, Well I am assuming alot, but it sort of makes sense that that even if other McLeas from outlying districts are in fact of the same origin as the Macdunleas/MacLeas of Argyll the highland MacLea's who organised the comprehensive name change to Livingstone in mid 1700's or whenever would have a limited range of influence if you like. What that range was in miles I can only guess at based on the Argyll records. Duncan was of course a
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