Macdonleavie in 1304

Kyle2 MacLea · Post by **Kyle2 MacLea** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:12 pm

Almost certainly predecessors of our McLeas... http://books.google.com/books?pg=PA377& ... utput=html Of particular interest to me is that my family seems to be localized in this whole area.

Canadian Livingstone · Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:53 pm

Hi Kyle, It may very well be that we are not all descended from the same paternal ancestor, but hopefully as more Livingstones and McLEas particpate in the McLea/Livingstone DNA project we will be able to get a better sense of where we may have come from and who is related to us. It is my personal hope that we may be able to get more Argyll Livingstones from neighbouring Movern, Mull and Appin to participate for example and see how close they match up with the Bachuil Livingstones and other Livingstones in this neighhbourhood. Mind you many of our people left Argyll in the 19th century, but there are still no doubt a few around still in highland Scotland like the Bachuil Livingstones who managed to resist the temptation to colonize the new world.

Kyle2 MacLea · Post by **Kyle2 MacLea** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:34 pm

Thanks, Donald.

D.W.Livingston · Post by **D.W.Livingston** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:07 am

I found a great website, from these two threads. First thanks to Kyle, I looked up and found this book reference http://books.google.com/books?id=fQotAA ... tml&pgis=1 which addressed Donald's thread and "The Surnames of Scotland: Their Origin, Meaning, and History By George Fraser Black" but I couldn't read the whole thing so I searched for a part I could read and came up with a website http://www.macleay.cncfamily.com/surnam ... otland.htm from Donald MacLeay. Checking out http://www.macleay.cncfamily.com/news.htm I see that Kyle has already visited.

David

Andrew Lancaster4 · Post by **Andrew Lancaster4** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:45 pm

Well done Donald and Kyle!

Craig McClay Wilson · Post by **Craig McClay Wilson** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:16 pm

This record , by referring to McLeas as a family dependent on the MacDougalls, is consistent with our Account's claim that the McLeas were allied with that Clan from early times. Just another example of how amazingly accurate the 1743 Account of Rev Duncan McLea has proven to be. Craig McClay Wilson

Canadian Livingstone · Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:36 pm

Hi David, Yes George Black and Robert McLeay research are an invaluable asset to our understanding of Clan McLea Livingstone. Regretably there is not an abundant amount of published material on Clan MacLea/Livingstone. Carmichael's research is one of the oldest and detailed, but does leave one with a few questions in particular his explanation of the family connection of Bachuil Livingstones with Dr.David Livingstone. And of course Carmichael most oddly enough does not mention at all Dr. Livingstone's own biographical account of his great grandfather who died at the Battle of Culloden according to the DOctor. This he had been apparently told by his grandfather the family storyteller and historian or his father.

Canadian Livingstone · Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:56 pm

Hi Craig, Yes almost forgot about the 1743McLea document. There is much food for thought in this ancient source and information that is probably for the most part historically accurate. To be fair it probably should not

Bachuil · Post by **Bachuil** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:07 am

Donald you say "If I ever read that Maconleigh or McLea means "son of a physician" again I will go loony." This could explain why I am loony! N

Canadian Livingstone · Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:14 am

Niall, Nothing wrong with being a loony. Old King George who ruled Britania for many years used to talk to Oak trees. On the down side he lost America. Donald