More DNA matches

Leonard Livingston · Post by **Leonard Livingston** » Sat May 28, 2005 11:52 am

I have received information from DNA Family Tree that several Livingstones, including the Chief and Rob, have DNA that matches mine, and that possibly we have a common ancestor. I am curious to see if we do have a common ancestor. We have been able to trace my Livingston line back to Germany from which the emigrated to AmericaHe settled in the area of Lancaster County, PA, which later became York County. by way of Rotterdam. From the information that I have gathered, I believe the line started in England, then went to Germany where they adapted the name to its German Translation of Liebenstein (German for living stone).The line descended as follows:

Bachuil · Post by **Bachuil** » Sat May 28, 2005 11:57 am

Welcome to the forum, Leonard. I see from emails that Rob says that you are closest to Phillip (with whom you have an exact 12/12 match), the Boggs families (with whom you have an 11/12 match) or with Alastair, Robert and himself (with whom you have an 11/12 match). Fascinating!

Andrew Lancaster4 · Post by **Andrew Lancaster4** » Sat May 28, 2005 5:19 pm

That's interesting Leonard. Do you mind telling which kit number you are on the webpage? Did your fmaily have any tradition of having British roots?

Donald Livingstone Clink · Sun May 29, 2005 6:32 am

Hi Leonard, I was aware that there was a family in Pennsylvania of German origin that changed their name to Livingston, but I am not aware that there was any connection with our Highland Livingstones who were prior to the 1750's known by their gaelic name Maconlea, Maclea or by a number of other spelling variations. The Maconleas of Argyll, Scotland adopted the name of the lowland Livingstone family in the 1700's, but no family connection has been established between the lowland Livingstones and our highland Maconlea/Livingstones either. It would be interesting to learn how your English/German Livingstons match the highland Livingstones. regards Donald

Andrew Lancaster4 · Post by **Andrew Lancaster4** » Sun May 29, 2005 11:50 pm

I think I see which one you are! I thought I would already do a check on how common these 12 markers are. 1. Sorensen database. http://smgf.org 25 perfect matches. If you unwrap the following you should see them. Many of the names are English or Scottish (for example Campbell), at least one is German. One is in Madeira. http://smgf.org/ysearch_results.jsp?con ... ortion=0.7 2. YHRD database. http://www.ystr.org/index.html This database is pretty poor for the UK so it would suggest that your DNA is British if you do badly on this list but well on others. You have 5 perfect matches though, which is not terribly bad. They were all European: from London, Madrid, Portugal and Birmingham. 3. Ybase. http://www.ybase.org/ 5 perfect matches. Barton, Campbell, Macdonald, Roper. 4. Ysearch. http://www.ysearch.org/ This is the database set up by Family Tree DNA, so if you are a customer of theirs then you can very easily upload to this database, if you or Rob have not done so already. This database gives 38 perfect matches including many Campbells and an entry called "Campbell Modal". All pretty British names, with a few that could come from several places, and at least one Irish. It should be kept in mind that this database seems to have more British surnames than anything else. Conclusion: more markers would allow you to make more meaningful analyses. You have a pretty common 12 marker set, but it could certainly be Scottish. But it is not really decisive. Best Regards Andrew