Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research
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Re: Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research
Hi Joyce;
Welcolm and thank-you for your previous contributions, through our PEI researcher; Barry Judson.
I found this, which may clear-up the confusion about where Angus Livingston and Allan Shaw were killed.
Angus Livingston age 21, bachelor, b. PEI, son of John Livingston; farmer: died Nov. 25, 1866.
Killed by a blast of powder at Waverly; just outside Halifax. Informant James McLeod.
Allan Shaw age 23, bachelor, b. PEI, son of John Shaw, farmer: died Nov. 25.,1866.
Killed by blast at Waverly; just outside Halifax. Informant James McLeod.
Regards;
Roberta
Welcolm and thank-you for your previous contributions, through our PEI researcher; Barry Judson.
I found this, which may clear-up the confusion about where Angus Livingston and Allan Shaw were killed.
Angus Livingston age 21, bachelor, b. PEI, son of John Livingston; farmer: died Nov. 25, 1866.
Killed by a blast of powder at Waverly; just outside Halifax. Informant James McLeod.
Allan Shaw age 23, bachelor, b. PEI, son of John Shaw, farmer: died Nov. 25.,1866.
Killed by blast at Waverly; just outside Halifax. Informant James McLeod.
Regards;
Roberta
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Re: Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research
John ,Just read your post the Malcom Currie and Sarah MacEachern are my ggggrandparents .I knew they came in 1820 but not the ship they were on. Sarahs death date is wrong she died in 1852 not 32 Duncan who died in 32 is their son and Mary (her dates are 1802-1894) their daughter m. John MacPherson in 1822 (my gggparents). Johns parents came on the Polly in 1803. Back to the Livingstones when Margaret was only 14 when she came to PEI I would assume all her family born here. Son John was born in Melville in 1851 so moved shortly after this to High Bank as Donald b 1853 in High Bank I never explored the western end of the island and that is where I will look next. This Clan site and Barry is starting to put my brain into gear. I never heard of John having another wife and family although I believe it was Pat Lel?? who had in her Martin tree that John was married twice , its awhile since I looked at it but I believe she had this info coming from me which was wrong. Joyce Livingstone Kennedy
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Re: Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research
Hi Roberta ,
Thank you ,that is quite likely my Angus as it puts his birth and death dates in the right time frame .He was unmarried. Thank you Joyce
Thank you ,that is quite likely my Angus as it puts his birth and death dates in the right time frame .He was unmarried. Thank you Joyce
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Re: Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research
Hi Joyce,
Interesting that you did apparently have kin arrive in PEI aboard the vessel "Economy". I had never heard of it before so I found John's info very interesting as well . You have come to the right place for info on your PEI Livingston ancestors as our team of Robert, Jewel and Barry are well acquainted with all there is to know on PEI Livingstones and we have John Livingstone our resident Scot who as you can see has a far bit of insight into Colonsay Livingston families as they were in Scotland and as settlers in PEI.
regards,
Donald
Interesting that you did apparently have kin arrive in PEI aboard the vessel "Economy". I had never heard of it before so I found John's info very interesting as well . You have come to the right place for info on your PEI Livingston ancestors as our team of Robert, Jewel and Barry are well acquainted with all there is to know on PEI Livingstones and we have John Livingstone our resident Scot who as you can see has a far bit of insight into Colonsay Livingston families as they were in Scotland and as settlers in PEI.
regards,
Donald
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Re: Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research
Hi Joyce,
Coal mining was a particularly hazardous occupation in 1866 and continues to be so. What happened to Angus Livingston at the mine in Nova Scotia at that time was an all too common occurence over the years since in particular with the dangers inherent with methane gas in the coal mines.There were 576 deaths between the years 1866 and 1972 in Pictou County, Nova Scotia mines.
regards,
Donald
Coal mining was a particularly hazardous occupation in 1866 and continues to be so. What happened to Angus Livingston at the mine in Nova Scotia at that time was an all too common occurence over the years since in particular with the dangers inherent with methane gas in the coal mines.There were 576 deaths between the years 1866 and 1972 in Pictou County, Nova Scotia mines.
regards,
Donald
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Re: Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research
Hi Joyce;
Your welcome, I enjoyed the search because I got the results that you wanted. However, I discovered another puzzle and here it is. Who is this John Livingstone d. May 21, 1874, Wentworth, Cumberland County, N.S., widower, age 92 b. Scotland. Informant; Angus Livingstone. The only John I could find b. 1782 at Eolasary, Kil., Scotland. Anyway, I am glad I could help you.
Regards;
Roberta
Your welcome, I enjoyed the search because I got the results that you wanted. However, I discovered another puzzle and here it is. Who is this John Livingstone d. May 21, 1874, Wentworth, Cumberland County, N.S., widower, age 92 b. Scotland. Informant; Angus Livingstone. The only John I could find b. 1782 at Eolasary, Kil., Scotland. Anyway, I am glad I could help you.
Regards;
Roberta
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Re: Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research
Hi All
This has been an interesting winter. Usually this has been a time for me to start digging into my family history a little more but not this winter I am afraid. We are up to our eyeballs in snow and between working and blowing snow it has kept me pretty busy. I am also recovering from ear surgery from the first of the month and although I have had to sit on a couch for two weeks, I just wasn't myself I'm afraid.
I see everyone has gotten aquainted with Joyce, so that is great. I knew she would fit right in with all of us Livingstone's....I know my last name isn't Livingstone but I am a Livingstone....sometimes I think I should have had my Mother's name lol. Joyce it is great that you have posted your geneology on here.
Joyce.....do you know anything about the Kelly Headstone in Polly Cemetery who was married to a John Livingstone. The interesting thing here is right next to her headstone is my gggrandmother, Sarah Kelly, who was Archibald Kelly's wife. My ggrandfather Angus married Archibald's daughter Catherine. Angus had two brother's named John and I am curious if two brothers married two sisters. I have the family history of one brother John, but the other is pretty much a mystery and the only time I have found him in the census documents was when he was married to a Kitty living with Archibald Murray and his wife in Wood Islands, right across the road from Lorne Pantings service station. Sarah Kelly's maiden name was Ross and she was a descendent of the Selkirk Settlers.
Another theory I have is that sisters Catherine and Ann Livingstone, who married two Livingstone brothers in Cape Breton (Mull River - Whycocomagh), Alexander and John Livingstone were from the Murray River area. I found a note somewhere about a Donald Livingstone from Murray River being married in Nine Mile Creek, so I know there is a connection between Nine Mile Creek and Murray River Livingstones. I know the theory is that Catherine and Ann were from the Nine Mile Creek Livingstones, but I cannot find two sisters in those families that were named Ann and Catherine.
John and Sarah Livingstone from Lot 53 had 3 daughters, but I cannot find any trace of those three daughters and maybe Ann and Catherine were from that family. Don't rule out that they weren't cousins cause my wife and I both have cousins marrying in our family trees....hence my hearing problem. I have found out this John was from Fort William, Scotland and from before I found he was on PEI in 1803, getting a land grant in Georgetown. Getting a land grant in the town leads me to believe he had a military background, because I think they may have been reserved for retired military, but that is just a theory. The land grant said he was a farmer. This is Sarah and John..."John of Fort William Argyleshire Scotland and Sarah Campbell Livingston of Southnist W Islands". I know John and Sarah lived in Townsend, Maine for awhile, for that is where one of there children were born. That pretty much fits because John transferred his land in Georgetown to Camerons in 1806. Does anyone have any records of this family in Maine around 1814, I believe this is where the birth records of this family are and that is why they have pretty much been an unknown. Is this the long lost brother of the Fort William Livingstones, the son of Malcolm Livingstoneof Pictou....we will likely never know.
Barry
This has been an interesting winter. Usually this has been a time for me to start digging into my family history a little more but not this winter I am afraid. We are up to our eyeballs in snow and between working and blowing snow it has kept me pretty busy. I am also recovering from ear surgery from the first of the month and although I have had to sit on a couch for two weeks, I just wasn't myself I'm afraid.
I see everyone has gotten aquainted with Joyce, so that is great. I knew she would fit right in with all of us Livingstone's....I know my last name isn't Livingstone but I am a Livingstone....sometimes I think I should have had my Mother's name lol. Joyce it is great that you have posted your geneology on here.
Joyce.....do you know anything about the Kelly Headstone in Polly Cemetery who was married to a John Livingstone. The interesting thing here is right next to her headstone is my gggrandmother, Sarah Kelly, who was Archibald Kelly's wife. My ggrandfather Angus married Archibald's daughter Catherine. Angus had two brother's named John and I am curious if two brothers married two sisters. I have the family history of one brother John, but the other is pretty much a mystery and the only time I have found him in the census documents was when he was married to a Kitty living with Archibald Murray and his wife in Wood Islands, right across the road from Lorne Pantings service station. Sarah Kelly's maiden name was Ross and she was a descendent of the Selkirk Settlers.
Another theory I have is that sisters Catherine and Ann Livingstone, who married two Livingstone brothers in Cape Breton (Mull River - Whycocomagh), Alexander and John Livingstone were from the Murray River area. I found a note somewhere about a Donald Livingstone from Murray River being married in Nine Mile Creek, so I know there is a connection between Nine Mile Creek and Murray River Livingstones. I know the theory is that Catherine and Ann were from the Nine Mile Creek Livingstones, but I cannot find two sisters in those families that were named Ann and Catherine.
John and Sarah Livingstone from Lot 53 had 3 daughters, but I cannot find any trace of those three daughters and maybe Ann and Catherine were from that family. Don't rule out that they weren't cousins cause my wife and I both have cousins marrying in our family trees....hence my hearing problem. I have found out this John was from Fort William, Scotland and from before I found he was on PEI in 1803, getting a land grant in Georgetown. Getting a land grant in the town leads me to believe he had a military background, because I think they may have been reserved for retired military, but that is just a theory. The land grant said he was a farmer. This is Sarah and John..."John of Fort William Argyleshire Scotland and Sarah Campbell Livingston of Southnist W Islands". I know John and Sarah lived in Townsend, Maine for awhile, for that is where one of there children were born. That pretty much fits because John transferred his land in Georgetown to Camerons in 1806. Does anyone have any records of this family in Maine around 1814, I believe this is where the birth records of this family are and that is why they have pretty much been an unknown. Is this the long lost brother of the Fort William Livingstones, the son of Malcolm Livingstoneof Pictou....we will likely never know.
Barry
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Re: Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research
Hi Donald
I have copies of the two documents, land conveyances, for John Livingstone of 1803 at home....I'm at work now. I believe I have scanned images too. I don't believe this John Livingstone is the same as the John Livingstone in Judique, but maybe a brother....possibly. It seems it was pretty common practice to have more than one John in a family. My Grandfather was John Duncan Livingstone and his brother was John Colin Livingstone, as an example. My great uncles of which there were also two John's as well. Seems kinda weird but common. This makes tracing families even more difficult. It is hard enough when you have so many Johns, but add to that the problem of having Johns in the same family and it becomes very easy to miss a family member. The land in Georgetown was conveyed to John Livingstone by Lieutenant Governor Fanning and it may not be coincidence that he was the a General of the army at the time too. There were regiments stationed in Georgetown around that time. I suspect that he is listed as a farmer because he is no longer in the military and before he was in the army, he may have been a farmer. I see a john Leviston in the army on these pages.
http://ngb.chebucto.org/Articles/eng-re ... city.shtml.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/cata ... 2008-08-08
I see many places in documentation of this family being spelled Leviston and when I questioned some of my aunts about Livingstone's in Cardigan and St. Georges they recalled it being pronounced different and being the Leviston pronounciation.
Many army units were disbanded around this time I believe and if he was stationed in Georgetown, maybe he decided to stay. The family seems to be involved with ships, as Malcolm, John's son was a sea captain and Joseph, John's grandson, was a ships carpenter. Maybe a familiarity with the navy if indeed he was military. I know that Malcolm was born in Maine, so John and Sarah must have been in Maine for awhile. I noticed in the family of Dr. Livingstone that there is reference to census documents from Maine as well. Is there any history regarding Livingstone families in Maine anyone is aware of? I am assured that Malcolm's father John is from Fort Henry. In the same paragraph in the book that says Malcolm was born in Maine, it lists his wives and they match with what I had from the PEI archives, although I only found one initially. Apparently Malcolm had married two sisters. Malcom had three sisters according to Sarah's will, but I cannot find who they were. I suspect one was Catherine who was married to a John Sigsworth in Cardigan but have not confirmed this. I still have all of my notes on this family in lot 53 and it is a very interesting family and I hope to unravel the mystery behind it. I have not found any descendents of this family that I know of.
I have copies of the two documents, land conveyances, for John Livingstone of 1803 at home....I'm at work now. I believe I have scanned images too. I don't believe this John Livingstone is the same as the John Livingstone in Judique, but maybe a brother....possibly. It seems it was pretty common practice to have more than one John in a family. My Grandfather was John Duncan Livingstone and his brother was John Colin Livingstone, as an example. My great uncles of which there were also two John's as well. Seems kinda weird but common. This makes tracing families even more difficult. It is hard enough when you have so many Johns, but add to that the problem of having Johns in the same family and it becomes very easy to miss a family member. The land in Georgetown was conveyed to John Livingstone by Lieutenant Governor Fanning and it may not be coincidence that he was the a General of the army at the time too. There were regiments stationed in Georgetown around that time. I suspect that he is listed as a farmer because he is no longer in the military and before he was in the army, he may have been a farmer. I see a john Leviston in the army on these pages.
http://ngb.chebucto.org/Articles/eng-re ... city.shtml.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/cata ... 2008-08-08
I see many places in documentation of this family being spelled Leviston and when I questioned some of my aunts about Livingstone's in Cardigan and St. Georges they recalled it being pronounced different and being the Leviston pronounciation.
Many army units were disbanded around this time I believe and if he was stationed in Georgetown, maybe he decided to stay. The family seems to be involved with ships, as Malcolm, John's son was a sea captain and Joseph, John's grandson, was a ships carpenter. Maybe a familiarity with the navy if indeed he was military. I know that Malcolm was born in Maine, so John and Sarah must have been in Maine for awhile. I noticed in the family of Dr. Livingstone that there is reference to census documents from Maine as well. Is there any history regarding Livingstone families in Maine anyone is aware of? I am assured that Malcolm's father John is from Fort Henry. In the same paragraph in the book that says Malcolm was born in Maine, it lists his wives and they match with what I had from the PEI archives, although I only found one initially. Apparently Malcolm had married two sisters. Malcom had three sisters according to Sarah's will, but I cannot find who they were. I suspect one was Catherine who was married to a John Sigsworth in Cardigan but have not confirmed this. I still have all of my notes on this family in lot 53 and it is a very interesting family and I hope to unravel the mystery behind it. I have not found any descendents of this family that I know of.
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Re: Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research
Barry in looking through info I have for any reference to the Polly cemetery names you asked about ,which was zilch, I was reading some info a Livingstone cousin gave me and in which she said her father always kept in touch with the Dundas Livingstones. I don't see a connection but there could be back somewheres or it was the fact they were Livingstones. Joyce
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Re: Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research
Hi Barry,
Outstanding research by the way. That odd spelling "Liviston" in itself proved to be helpful.
Congratulations youve solved the mystery then regarding the military man John Liviston from before 1803 in PEI. It is important to note he is not of highland Argyll Livingstone origin like the other settlers have been looking at from the early 1800's into PEI and Cape Breton but from a "COunty Down" as your military information states in the North of IReland. These Livistons originally from lowland Scotland presumingly arrrived in County Down or one of the other counties North of IReland sometime in the 1600's. I have ancestors from a variety of families whose ancestry goes back to County Down, Antrim and Armagh to the 1600's.The spelling is interesting but do get the odd alternative spellings from time to time ie Levingstons. Brilliant work. Mystery at long last solved. So 1806 then remains the year when the first documented highland Livingstones arrived from Argyll, Scotland in PEI though there were Nova Scotia before that. One of the projects I have on the backburner at the moment is to do a study of locations of Livingstons in early 19th century Northern Ireland. Havent had the spare time with all the writing and other research I am doing at the moment. Then there is the music I am working on. I really need some more time for the music.
regards,
Donald
Outstanding research by the way. That odd spelling "Liviston" in itself proved to be helpful.
Congratulations youve solved the mystery then regarding the military man John Liviston from before 1803 in PEI. It is important to note he is not of highland Argyll Livingstone origin like the other settlers have been looking at from the early 1800's into PEI and Cape Breton but from a "COunty Down" as your military information states in the North of IReland. These Livistons originally from lowland Scotland presumingly arrrived in County Down or one of the other counties North of IReland sometime in the 1600's. I have ancestors from a variety of families whose ancestry goes back to County Down, Antrim and Armagh to the 1600's.The spelling is interesting but do get the odd alternative spellings from time to time ie Levingstons. Brilliant work. Mystery at long last solved. So 1806 then remains the year when the first documented highland Livingstones arrived from Argyll, Scotland in PEI though there were Nova Scotia before that. One of the projects I have on the backburner at the moment is to do a study of locations of Livingstons in early 19th century Northern Ireland. Havent had the spare time with all the writing and other research I am doing at the moment. Then there is the music I am working on. I really need some more time for the music.
regards,
Donald