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Re: Angus Livingstone& Margaret (Hall/McPhail), Shiaba, Mul

Postby Canadian Livingstone » Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:17 pm

Hi John,
Looks like you have made a lot of progress in your research of your Edmonton family line as well as the Livingstons in Scotland.
Have you thought about creating a family tree wall chart of your Livingston and other families you are kin to? Great to have on display for visiting relatives and looks very cool.

As mentioned in my post prior to yours, a fourth Livingston of Morvern Livingston Origin was tested and the update to that message is that Stephen Livingston whose family was residing at Achabegg, Morvern in the 1840's before coming to American in 1851 and his earlier ancestor was a brother of Donald Livingston 1728-1816 of Savary, Morvern, was tested and found to be a close match as suspected with the three other Morvern LIvingstons tested and matching with our Parker Livingston Group. So we know have four Livingstons with ancestors of Morvern origin, one of neighbouring Ardnamurchan ancestry, a good number with documented Mull ancestry and others with likely Argyllshire ancestry as well. Two or three with documented Perthshire ancestry but matching with the Parker Livingstons of Argyllshire origin and given that Perthshire in in the highlands and near Argyllshire it seems likely their Perthshire ancestors migrated to neighbouring Perthshire in the 1700's and originally lived in Western Argyllshire from Mull, Morvern, Ardnamurchan or one of the other Parishes in Western Argyllshire. What I find encouraging is the original and more recent participants with documented or suspected Western Argyllshire with documented connections with Mull and Morvern virtually all of them except one in the last 10 years matched with the Parker Livingston group. I can now tell you that with one descendant of the famous Savary, Morvern Jacobite Donald Livingston's brother tested it looks like Donald Livingston and his Achnacree Maconlea and Morvern Maconlea/Livingstone family line is connected to our Morvern and Mull dominated Parker Livingston Group. There is also maybe a chance that another Livingston of Savary, Morvern ancestry a direct descendant of Donald Livingstone 1728-1816 may be interested in the Maclea Livingstone DNA Project. I will let you know if that is the case. I know from talking to participants that the Livingston matches showing up on each participants list varies depending on the matches but I think there are now over 20 Livingstons who have done the 67 marker test including one who has done the 37 marker test with the Parker Livingston Group. Also others of other families matching with these Livingstons to some degree.

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Re: Angus Livingstone& Margaret (Hall/McPhail), Shiaba, Mul

Postby Canadian Livingstone » Tue Feb 28, 2017 3:04 am

Hi John,

Two Penmore Mull Livingston families came to Nova Scotia a few years apart in the early 1800's. A descendant of one participated in the DNA project several years ago, but I am hoping that some descendant of the second Penmore Mull Livingstons may be interested in participating in the project which will help to prove whether or the two Penmore Livingsons that settled in Nova Scotia in the early 1800's were in fact brothers.

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Donald
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Re: Angus Livingstone& Margaret (Hall/McPhail), Shiaba, Mul

Postby Canadian Livingstone » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:47 pm

Hi John,

I just got a book in the mail on the Highland Famine and its impact on highlanders in Argyll and elsewhere and thought of your Angus Livingston family research project your presently working on.
It is not clear what your ancestor Angus Livingston of Colonsay, Arygll died from when he died on Oct. 30, 1847 in Paisley, Renfrewshire where a son and daughter of his were residing at the time having also left Colonsay, Argyll. While most people are familiar with the effect the Potato crop failure of the 1840's had on Ireland, it is less commonly known that nearby Western Argyllshire was also severely affected. It is clear from contemporary accounts from the period of 1846 to 1847 that malnutrition and disease had become rampant in parts of Argyll such as Mull/Colonsay area linked to this disastrous crop failure. From T. M. Devine's book "The Great Highland Famine" " between the years 1846 and 1855 the potato, the main subsistence crop of the population of the Western Highlands and Islands, failed in whole or in part and destitution and the killer diseases associated with these conditions." "...massive external assistance was required to reduce the real danger posed to the lives of many thousands of people. .... the subsistence crisis had a fundamental impact on such crucial social indicators such as birth, marriage, emigration and migration. The famine caused a huge exodus from the stricken region on quite an unprecedented scale. The Highland Famine did not directly cause the deaths of many people except in 1846 and 1847 , but it did have momentous demographic consequences for the inhabitants of the north of Scotland." That being said there was a definite increase in malnutrition and disease in the Mull/Colonsay area and some of those suffering and sickened with disease ended up in the lowlands during the 1846 and 1847. Whether Angus left Colonsay before 1846 or after is not known for certain but his son Hugh we do know left following the 1841 Census and in the lowlands in 1842 when he married. Later by the time of the birth of a son Hugh in 1846 was residing in Paisley. His father we know from his final pension info died in October of 1847 likely at his son's residence presumingly. His daughter unmarried at the time her father's death may have lived with the brother as well. A year later she married Mr. Logan. We may not be able to say what Angus died from, but it well be that he was exposed to diseases that were on the increase in the lowlands and rampant in the Argyllshire amongst the impoverished and malnourished tenants.




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