Duncan Livingston, slate quarrier at Balvicar
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Re: Duncan Livingston, slate quarrier at Balvicar
Hi Jill,
I noticed in an old posting that you did send me the Luing Mconleas from 1730, I just not sure where I put it. I try to keep the important documents sorted by subject matter, but not sure what I did with that information. Yes it you still have those names that would be great. Do you know if the 1730 Earl of Breadalbane info includes other Maconleas or Mcleas that might have been situated on other Islands such as Seil? This is the last listing of these tenants as Mconleas or Mcleas as beginning in the 1753 entries little more than twenty years later in the Kilbrandon and Kilchattan Parish books the Maconleas/Macleas that resided in Kilbrandon and Kilchattan Parish are referred to as Livingston or Livingstone.
regards,
Donald
I noticed in an old posting that you did send me the Luing Mconleas from 1730, I just not sure where I put it. I try to keep the important documents sorted by subject matter, but not sure what I did with that information. Yes it you still have those names that would be great. Do you know if the 1730 Earl of Breadalbane info includes other Maconleas or Mcleas that might have been situated on other Islands such as Seil? This is the last listing of these tenants as Mconleas or Mcleas as beginning in the 1753 entries little more than twenty years later in the Kilbrandon and Kilchattan Parish books the Maconleas/Macleas that resided in Kilbrandon and Kilchattan Parish are referred to as Livingston or Livingstone.
regards,
Donald
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Re: Duncan Livingston, slate quarrier at Balvicar
Hi Margaret,
I understand that they have quite alot of interesting old records pertaining to parishes in Argyllshire where Macleas and Livingstons resided at Lochghilphead.
regards,
Donald
I understand that they have quite alot of interesting old records pertaining to parishes in Argyllshire where Macleas and Livingstons resided at Lochghilphead.
regards,
Donald
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Re: Duncan Livingston, slate quarrier at Balvicar
Hi Donald,
My son-in-law is from Seil, I'll have a word with him, see if he can give us anyone to contact around Seil/Easdale for info on this one.
As a matter of interest, Seil has a micro-brewery which produces an excellent drop of beer, well worth a visit,
John
My son-in-law is from Seil, I'll have a word with him, see if he can give us anyone to contact around Seil/Easdale for info on this one.
As a matter of interest, Seil has a micro-brewery which produces an excellent drop of beer, well worth a visit,
John
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Re: Duncan Livingston, slate quarrier at Balvicar
Donald,
Just came across this book ''Netherlorn, Argyllshire & its Neighbours'' by Patrick Gillies, published by Virtue & Co., London in 1909, it possibly is not relevant to the Livingstone Clan, but covers Seil/Luing etc.
It can be downloaded to a variety of places, including Kindle e-book readers, appears to be a good source of historical info for the area,
John
Just came across this book ''Netherlorn, Argyllshire & its Neighbours'' by Patrick Gillies, published by Virtue & Co., London in 1909, it possibly is not relevant to the Livingstone Clan, but covers Seil/Luing etc.
It can be downloaded to a variety of places, including Kindle e-book readers, appears to be a good source of historical info for the area,
John
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Re: Duncan Livingston, slate quarrier at Balvicar
Hi John,
Interesting that you have a Seil connection. For me not being from Scotland (most of my ancestors were)this has been a learning experience and I would like to learn more about these slate islands.
Another more recent book that may be good is Mary Whitall's "The Islands that roofed the World". It apparently covers the history of the slate industry on Easdale,Luing,Seil etc. If anyone is interested it is available through Amazon.com
Donald
Interesting that you have a Seil connection. For me not being from Scotland (most of my ancestors were)this has been a learning experience and I would like to learn more about these slate islands.
Another more recent book that may be good is Mary Whitall's "The Islands that roofed the World". It apparently covers the history of the slate industry on Easdale,Luing,Seil etc. If anyone is interested it is available through Amazon.com
Donald
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Re: Duncan Livingston, slate quarrier at Balvicar
Hi Margaret,
There was also a list made of recruits to Argyll Fencibles 1759 1760 from Mull and Morvern. Only one "Liviston" from Ross of Mull listed. I dont know if this list included Livingstons from the Slate Islands and other parts of Western Argyll where Livingstons lived. The archives at Lochgilphead apparently has this one.
regards,
Donald
There was also a list made of recruits to Argyll Fencibles 1759 1760 from Mull and Morvern. Only one "Liviston" from Ross of Mull listed. I dont know if this list included Livingstons from the Slate Islands and other parts of Western Argyll where Livingstons lived. The archives at Lochgilphead apparently has this one.
regards,
Donald
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Re: Duncan Livingston, slate quarrier at Balvicar
Hi Donald,
Liviston could quite easily be the writer spelling the name the way he pronounces it, Liviston is still common pronounciation of Livingstone in the West of Scotland,
John
Liviston could quite easily be the writer spelling the name the way he pronounces it, Liviston is still common pronounciation of Livingstone in the West of Scotland,
John
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Re: Duncan Livingston, slate quarrier at Balvicar
Hi John,
No doubt. I always find it interesting the variety of spelling variations for many of the family names I come across in the course of my family research. Livingston is no exception to this. Livingstone, Livingston, Levingston,Liviston etc. A good rule of thumb is to check Livingstone,Livingston and Levingston when doing a Livingstone or Livingston family search as all three spelling were often used in the old records. Remember that the spelling was not neccessarily that of the family but often that of the person doing the recording of the information, minister, census taker etc.
regards,
Donald
No doubt. I always find it interesting the variety of spelling variations for many of the family names I come across in the course of my family research. Livingston is no exception to this. Livingstone, Livingston, Levingston,Liviston etc. A good rule of thumb is to check Livingstone,Livingston and Levingston when doing a Livingstone or Livingston family search as all three spelling were often used in the old records. Remember that the spelling was not neccessarily that of the family but often that of the person doing the recording of the information, minister, census taker etc.
regards,
Donald
Re: Duncan Livingston, slate quarrier at Balvicar
Hello,
I came across this thread when researching the family of my great-garndmother Jane Livingston who was from the Isle Seil and have since joined the forum.
Jane is a descendant of the line discussed in this thread and I thought I should introduce myself.
Jane was born in Mar 1876 and is the grand daughter of Donald b. abt 1813 married Jean Donaldson 15 March 1835 Glasgow, died 18 November 1877 Easdale. Her mother was Isabella Livingston born in 1856, one of many children of Donald and Jean, including a twin sister Euphemia. No father is listed on her birth or death certificate but reference is made to an Archibald Livingston (deceased) who was a blacksmith on her marriage certificate in 1901 - so that is one avenue of enquiry I am following as well as seeking to find out more about Donald's parents Duncan and Euphemia McInnes.
By the time of her marriage time she had moved to Dundee where stayed until she died in 1972, aged 95. Jane was my mother's mother's mother.
Best wishes
Sandra
I came across this thread when researching the family of my great-garndmother Jane Livingston who was from the Isle Seil and have since joined the forum.
Jane is a descendant of the line discussed in this thread and I thought I should introduce myself.
Jane was born in Mar 1876 and is the grand daughter of Donald b. abt 1813 married Jean Donaldson 15 March 1835 Glasgow, died 18 November 1877 Easdale. Her mother was Isabella Livingston born in 1856, one of many children of Donald and Jean, including a twin sister Euphemia. No father is listed on her birth or death certificate but reference is made to an Archibald Livingston (deceased) who was a blacksmith on her marriage certificate in 1901 - so that is one avenue of enquiry I am following as well as seeking to find out more about Donald's parents Duncan and Euphemia McInnes.
By the time of her marriage time she had moved to Dundee where stayed until she died in 1972, aged 95. Jane was my mother's mother's mother.
Best wishes
Sandra
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Re: Duncan Livingston, slate quarrier at Balvicar
Welcome to the Clan Maclea Livingstone Society Forum
Donald and his wife Jean Donaldson married in Glasgow in 1835 as you mentioned. Donald was born abt. 1813/1814 in Kilbrandon Parish, Argyllshire while Jean was born in Renfrewshire or Ayrshire at least according to the census records. Their eldest son John was born in Glasgow as was son Duncan born in 1837. The Scottish parish records then clearly indicate that the Donald, Jean and family ended up in Kilbrandon Parish, Argyllshire sometime before 1843 when their daughter Mary was born in Kilbrandon Parish, Arygllshire. Two years later or so a son Alexander was born then Robert in 1846, Daughter Margaret was born in 1849. Jean Ann was born in 1851 and a son Donald in 1853. The 1861 Census records three subsequent children twins Isabella and Catharine born abt. 1865 or 1866 and a son James born abt. 1860. The 1871 Census indicates however that the twins went by the name of Isabella and Euphemia. (Isabella as you mentioned was your ancestor) A son John was born abt. 1861 or 1862 may be the last born. Is Donald a widower by the 1871 Census. Donald's wife Jean is not listed with the family in the 1871 Scottish Census in Kibrandon Parish so I assume she died before the 1871 Census sometime between 1861 and 1871 in KIlbrandon Parish, Argyllshire. At the time of the 1851 and 1861 Census Donald, Jean and family resided at Dalemaig in Kilbrandon Parish.
I dont have any additional info on Donald's parents as yet.
regards,
Donald (Livingstone) Clink
Historian
Clan Maclea Livingstone Society
Donald and his wife Jean Donaldson married in Glasgow in 1835 as you mentioned. Donald was born abt. 1813/1814 in Kilbrandon Parish, Argyllshire while Jean was born in Renfrewshire or Ayrshire at least according to the census records. Their eldest son John was born in Glasgow as was son Duncan born in 1837. The Scottish parish records then clearly indicate that the Donald, Jean and family ended up in Kilbrandon Parish, Argyllshire sometime before 1843 when their daughter Mary was born in Kilbrandon Parish, Arygllshire. Two years later or so a son Alexander was born then Robert in 1846, Daughter Margaret was born in 1849. Jean Ann was born in 1851 and a son Donald in 1853. The 1861 Census records three subsequent children twins Isabella and Catharine born abt. 1865 or 1866 and a son James born abt. 1860. The 1871 Census indicates however that the twins went by the name of Isabella and Euphemia. (Isabella as you mentioned was your ancestor) A son John was born abt. 1861 or 1862 may be the last born. Is Donald a widower by the 1871 Census. Donald's wife Jean is not listed with the family in the 1871 Scottish Census in Kibrandon Parish so I assume she died before the 1871 Census sometime between 1861 and 1871 in KIlbrandon Parish, Argyllshire. At the time of the 1851 and 1861 Census Donald, Jean and family resided at Dalemaig in Kilbrandon Parish.
I dont have any additional info on Donald's parents as yet.
regards,
Donald (Livingstone) Clink
Historian
Clan Maclea Livingstone Society