My Livingston(e) Line

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Kyle,
I remember what it was. I was contacted by a New Zealander who is a descdent of a different Dugald Livington b. 1852 at Ballachulish probably or Appin who is son of the John Livingston b.1812 and Christina (Christie)(charity)that are listed with Donald Livingston born 1802 and his wife Ann in the 1841 and 1851 Census who lived at Ballachulish. John was born at Ballachulish or Appin and was a shepherd at Ballachulish who later settled at Morvern by the time of 1861 Census with his family. Charity is probably a nickname and John's wife went by Christina and Christie in other census records I noticed. She was Christian or Christina Rankin daughter of Alexander Rankin and Mary Livingstone . Interestingly I noticed sure enough that John Livingston and Christian Rankin are buried at St. James Episcopal Cemetery churchyard. Christian died in 1862 and JOhn died in 1875. John Livingston was a shepherd at Ballachulish but sometime in the 1850s resettled in Morvern Parish. Interestly though John and Christie were buried at Ballachulish.

I dont know how many of these Balachulish Livingstons are related but I can tell you that John Livingston b. 1812 and his wife Christina were at Balachulish West Laroch in the 1851 Census and James Livingston and his wife Isabel Clark were living at Balachelish 76 West Laroch and James born abt. 1806 was employed as a slate quarrier. This James sounds alot like the James Livingston you mentioned born in 1805 that went to Australia in 1851. I could not find him in the 1861 Scottish census. So this John might be the brother of James. YOu might be interested to know that this John and his wife Christina were in Morvern by 1861 where John was a Shepherd. Their youngest son Dugald settled in New Zealand. So there is an Australian and New Zealand connection it would seem to this family group. You wondered if there was a connection and after you refreshed my memory with information about James after a brother John at Laroch/Ballachulish I knew had found his brother John Livingston.
This was the family of James in the 1851 Census before they left for Australia aboard the Marco Polo I assume
James age 45and Isabel age 41
John age 13
Duncan age 11
Ann age 8
James age 6
Mary age 4


regards,

Donald

[Kyle MacLea]

Interesting!

Would be neat to know if these Ballachulish Livingstones are all related.

One seems to be part of your Parker/Livingstone group, and it may turn out that others are also related!

Kyle=

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Ginger,

Bingo. I can verify that Donald's parents were in fact Dugald and Catharine Livingston as indicated in the 1871 and 1881 Scottish Census information. I just located your ancestor Donald Livingston's birth record. Donald Livingston was born May 3, 1863 according to a record from High Church in Glasgow, Lanarkshire. The parents listed were Dugald Livingston and Catharine McDonald. So there is no doubt that that the information I have located in the Scottish census records yesterday is infact your family. Most of the Livingstons who were in Glasgow, Lanarkshire in the 1860's working in the mills were of highland origin. Perhaps Dugald and Catharine were visiting relatives in Glasgow when Donald was born.

After the birth of their first child Donald in 1863 they returned to the highlands in Argyll County and the other children seem to have been born in Ballachulish where the father and grandfather came from. This is as I mentioned where a large slate quarry was located a major source of employment for the village. I find it interesting that Donald when he settled in Colorado, USA should find employment in stone work and later establish a Quarry.
regards,

Donald

[Kyle MacLea]

Awesome, great work, guys!

Kyle=

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Kyle,

West Laroch Village is at South Ballachulish and is the slate workers village where James and Isabella Livingston lived in 1851 before Leaving for Australia. There is a quarry there which had mined for a couple of hundred years. Do you have access to Ballachulish marriage records with Scotland People I think some of the Livingtons in the Ballachulish area may be high church as well as presbyterian and that may be why I cant find some of the Ballachulish Livingston families in the Church of Scotland records. There is a St. Johns Episcopal Church there I believe with well preserved slate tombstones.

regards,

Donald

[beadmom]

OH MY.......I was in the road in that awful storm in Colorado and came home to this.....

So much to assimilate... I think I am gonna cry (with joy) and JEWEL!!! You are a JEWEL!!!

ALso... I was on the plane from Colorado Springs to Denver and our pilot came out and said "Hi I'm your pilot. My name is David Livingston" MY poor head jerked right out into the isle. HE is from Oklahoma and will be checking into this site.

I was reading the new Diana Gabaldon book on the plane and getting more and more immersed in Scottish history. (anyone who has not read her books and loves Scotland should look them up.)

THANKS SO MUCH EVERYONE!!!! I am SO excited!!!

Ginger

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Ginger,
You never know where you might find a Livingston. Thats hilarious that the pilot turned out to be a Livingston. Is there is no end to these Livingstons. They seem to be everywhere.
Well I am almost as surprised as you how it all just kinda easily made sense and the information was all there. Mentioning about the slate mine in Colorado and the fact that Jewel copied down from the 1900 COlorado census Donald was a pavement stone cutter really made think. We dont always get this lucky with ones family history. It is quite obvious that your roots at least as far back I was able to go with the census records ie. Donald Livingston born 1802 is at Ballachulish though Donald b. 1863 lived as a boy actually in Ardchattan Parish first at Bonawe and later at Kinacraig village in Argyll. You might also have had Livingston relatives in neighbouring Appin Parish. I think Ballachulish was in Duror Parish at one time. Anyways Ballachulish is possibly the place where the ancestors worked as slate workers going back more than a few generations. I think the slate quarry was worked from the 1500`s or 1600`s. We know you have at least three generations Donald b.1802, Dugald b.1839 and Donald b.1863 who worked with Stone which I found very interesting. By the way I am now 100% certain this is your family and have been updating the info as new data was discovered. The Argyll County census records of 1871 and 1881 confirmed with the birth record from Glasgow High Church that your great-great grandfather DOnald Livingston was born in Glasgow though his family returned to the highlands after Donald`s birth. Perhaps Dugald and Catharine had relatives in Glasgow they were visiting. There were a number of highland Livingstone in Glasgow and in Lanarkshire County in the lowlands that were of Argyllshire origins we know.

1841 was as far back as I go back in the Scottish census record tracing your family. I have included the census records and 1841 info regarding Donalds grandfather Donald Livingston b. 1802 was included in a posting on page 2 of this post here at the forum. I have not as yet located your family in earlier Ballachulish area marriage or baptismal records from the Church of Scotland parish records. Some of these Livingstons were high church and I noticed that your great-great grandfather`s birth record came from a high church in Glasgow. I wonder if that means that your ancestors were Episcopalians rather than Presbyterians

Yes Jewel truly is a jewel in our genealogy crown and her research brilliance never ceases to dazzle all in the Clan Maclea Livingstone Society.

regards,

Donald

[Jewel]

Hello Ginger,

Glad I was able to help, but a big thank you goes to Donald also I think he found your family all the way back in Scotland.
My goodness you had a pilot by the name of Livingston, I know there are alot of Livingstone's but that was quit a coincidence!!

AS to Diana Gabaldon, I absolutely love her books. I'm about 3/4 of the way through her new one and loving it. The series is really wonderful for anyone interested in the Higlanders of Scotland. She is maticulous with her historical research which makes them not only a great read but an educational one as well.

Jewel

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Ginger,

Are there any Livingstons with that name still in your family, direct descendants of Donald.

regards,

Donald

[beadmom]

LOL...Nope. What I had was a conversation with my Grandfather.....at almost 50 I am blessed that I have 3 of my 4 grandparents still alive and well and am mining them for info.. I just spoke to them about the info that everyone has come up with and they are very excited. All males are willing to do the DNA thing so I am headed over there now!

Ginger

Hi Ginger,

It sounds like you already have the 1900 census info but here it is.


Lyons Town, Boulder, Colorado: 1900 census

Donald Livingston, B. May 1863 Scotland
Mary A. B. Feb. 1872, Eng.
Anna B. Dec. 1891, Ga.
Flora J. B. Aug. 1893, Ga.
John W. B. Jan 1895, Ga.

Donald immigrated 1886 Ga.
married 10 years
Occ: Paveing cutter
Naturalized.

Unfortunately the 1890 U.S. census was detroyed by fire so was unable to find them in Georgia for that time period.

Jewel