Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research
Forum rules
Remember that this forum is publicly accessible. Do not share private information that you wish to remain private on the Ancestral Search forum.
Remember that this forum is publicly accessible. Do not share private information that you wish to remain private on the Ancestral Search forum.
-
- Posts: 2778
- Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:00 pm
Re: Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research
Hi Jewel and Roberta,
So this family connection of you and Roberta all goes back to John LIvingston Jr. and Old Kate's son John Livingston who in the 1871 Census was age 25 and living with his widowed mother old Kate at S.E Mabou Mull River. On some of the census records note old Kate is listed in Glencoe District, Inverness County not to be confused with the town of Glencoe but she and her family are actually at Livingston Mountain, Mull River. Dr. St. Clair can see the old house apparently from where he lives. Who did the son of old Kate John Livingston marry and where did he live. I noticed only Hugh and his sister Mary stayed at Mull River farm of old kate.
Ok so If this is correct old Kate's son John born abt. 1846 or 1845 like his brother Duncan left Mull River and became a miner. That makes sense and he married Mary Ann born in 1854 and there is also a New Glasgow connection as in the case of brother Duncan.
regards,
Donald
So this family connection of you and Roberta all goes back to John LIvingston Jr. and Old Kate's son John Livingston who in the 1871 Census was age 25 and living with his widowed mother old Kate at S.E Mabou Mull River. On some of the census records note old Kate is listed in Glencoe District, Inverness County not to be confused with the town of Glencoe but she and her family are actually at Livingston Mountain, Mull River. Dr. St. Clair can see the old house apparently from where he lives. Who did the son of old Kate John Livingston marry and where did he live. I noticed only Hugh and his sister Mary stayed at Mull River farm of old kate.
Ok so If this is correct old Kate's son John born abt. 1846 or 1845 like his brother Duncan left Mull River and became a miner. That makes sense and he married Mary Ann born in 1854 and there is also a New Glasgow connection as in the case of brother Duncan.
regards,
Donald
-
- Posts: 2778
- Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:00 pm
Re: Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research
Hi Kyle,
I think that Maryann and Roberta are brilliant for figuring that one out and kudos to Barry Judson for bringing MaryAnn to Forum. It helps that they knew their family trees and were able to make that deduction. I have looked at the information from the two Livingston families that of John Livingston jr. and Old Kate of Mull River Inverness County Cape Breton which Mary Ann is connected and that of John Livingston Jr. and Ann Mcgilverary of Low point, Cape Breton County, Cape Breton which Roberta is connected to and there is a definite connection through marriage in a subsequent generation of these two families as they have described. It is just one of many joys of genealogical research that things like this happen and bring strangers together as family. Great work and no doubt very exciting news for Roberta, Jewel and Maryann.
regards,
Donald
I think that Maryann and Roberta are brilliant for figuring that one out and kudos to Barry Judson for bringing MaryAnn to Forum. It helps that they knew their family trees and were able to make that deduction. I have looked at the information from the two Livingston families that of John Livingston jr. and Old Kate of Mull River Inverness County Cape Breton which Mary Ann is connected and that of John Livingston Jr. and Ann Mcgilverary of Low point, Cape Breton County, Cape Breton which Roberta is connected to and there is a definite connection through marriage in a subsequent generation of these two families as they have described. It is just one of many joys of genealogical research that things like this happen and bring strangers together as family. Great work and no doubt very exciting news for Roberta, Jewel and Maryann.
regards,
Donald
-
- Posts: 602
- Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:56 pm
Re: Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research
Hi Donald;
I can't help myself so I have to correct the spelling of my 3rd GreatGrandmother it is Ann McGillivary. Ann is a descendent of
Donald McGillivary. A descendent Francis Xavier McGillivary of Glace Bay wrote a book about or on the
Descendents of Donald McGillivary.
Regards;
Roberta
I can't help myself so I have to correct the spelling of my 3rd GreatGrandmother it is Ann McGillivary. Ann is a descendent of
Donald McGillivary. A descendent Francis Xavier McGillivary of Glace Bay wrote a book about or on the
Descendents of Donald McGillivary.
Regards;
Roberta
Re: Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research
Hello Roberta,
I hate to make corrections also Roberta, but the correct spelling is MCGilliVRAY .
John Livingstone married Christy McPhee in 1806, Low Point.There first son born in 1807,John Livingstone married Anne McGillivray.John and Ann McGillivray first child was John Livingstone b. 1827 he married Emily Roper. John and Emily's first child was Mary Ann Livingstone who married John Livingstone son of John and Old Kate.
I should also say that Roberta and my Great Grandfather was Donald Daniel Livingstone b. 1837, is the brother of John Livingstone who married Emily Roper.
1. John Livingstone married Christy McPhee
2.John Livingstone b.1807 married Ann McGillivray
3.John Livingstone b.1827 married Emily Roper
4.Mary Ann Livingstone b. 1854 married John Livingstone(son of John & Old Kate)
Regards, Jewel
I hate to make corrections also Roberta, but the correct spelling is MCGilliVRAY .
John Livingstone married Christy McPhee in 1806, Low Point.There first son born in 1807,John Livingstone married Anne McGillivray.John and Ann McGillivray first child was John Livingstone b. 1827 he married Emily Roper. John and Emily's first child was Mary Ann Livingstone who married John Livingstone son of John and Old Kate.
I should also say that Roberta and my Great Grandfather was Donald Daniel Livingstone b. 1837, is the brother of John Livingstone who married Emily Roper.
1. John Livingstone married Christy McPhee
2.John Livingstone b.1807 married Ann McGillivray
3.John Livingstone b.1827 married Emily Roper
4.Mary Ann Livingstone b. 1854 married John Livingstone(son of John & Old Kate)
Regards, Jewel
Last edited by Jewel on Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:39 pm, edited 2 times in total.
-
- Posts: 602
- Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:56 pm
Re: Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research
Hi Donald;
Golly, Donald you are correct. I was correcting you and I spelled McGillivray wrong.
Thank you, Donald I will never make that mistake again.
regards;
Roberta
Golly, Donald you are correct. I was correcting you and I spelled McGillivray wrong.
Thank you, Donald I will never make that mistake again.
regards;
Roberta
-
- Posts: 602
- Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:56 pm
Re: Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research
Hello Donald;
I thought I was answering your post but, it was Jewels post. I found another son of John Livingstone and Mary Ann Livingstone.
Frederick Calder Livingstone age 23 of McLennans Brook son of John And Mary Ann Livingstone of Thorburn married Christina Grant McLeod age 20 of Presley daughter of Robert and Isabell McLeod of Barneys River January 23, 1915
Witnesses: Alex. Sutherland and Lena Jessie Ross
Fredrick Calder Livingstone died November 27, 1957, born February 7, 1892. Fred. was a Mine Foreman and he died of a skull fracture. He was hit on the head in the mine.
Informant: Mrs. Fredrick Livingstone of Thorburn. He is buried in New Glasgow.
Regards;
Roberta
I thought I was answering your post but, it was Jewels post. I found another son of John Livingstone and Mary Ann Livingstone.
Frederick Calder Livingstone age 23 of McLennans Brook son of John And Mary Ann Livingstone of Thorburn married Christina Grant McLeod age 20 of Presley daughter of Robert and Isabell McLeod of Barneys River January 23, 1915
Witnesses: Alex. Sutherland and Lena Jessie Ross
Fredrick Calder Livingstone died November 27, 1957, born February 7, 1892. Fred. was a Mine Foreman and he died of a skull fracture. He was hit on the head in the mine.
Informant: Mrs. Fredrick Livingstone of Thorburn. He is buried in New Glasgow.
Regards;
Roberta
-
- Posts: 2778
- Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:00 pm
Re: Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research
Hi Roberta and Jewel,
I am speechless. Nice work assisting Mary Ann on this one and helping to make this Livingston family connection happen. No Roberta I think my spelling was actually wrong. I have frequently mispelled that name I am afraid. It took me ten years just to figure out how to spell McLaughlin.
regards,
Donald
I am speechless. Nice work assisting Mary Ann on this one and helping to make this Livingston family connection happen. No Roberta I think my spelling was actually wrong. I have frequently mispelled that name I am afraid. It took me ten years just to figure out how to spell McLaughlin.
regards,
Donald
-
- Posts: 2778
- Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:00 pm
Re: Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research
Hi Maryann,
"
I had one question. You stated that John Livingston 1847-1904 married Mary Ann Livingston of" Bras d'or". Bras d'or strikes me as odd as that is a different Livingston familly than Roberta or Jewels that of pioneer Angus Livingston of Boularderie Bras d'or, . THe assumption was made that Mary Ann Livingston was of the Low Point Livingtons of Roberta's ancestors connected toJohn Livingstone and Ann Macgilveray of John Livingston and Christy McPhee family. The Bras'or Livingstons are Angus Livingston's descendants not Roberta or Jewel's kin. So we need to figure that one out.
regards,
Donald
"
I had one question. You stated that John Livingston 1847-1904 married Mary Ann Livingston of" Bras d'or". Bras d'or strikes me as odd as that is a different Livingston familly than Roberta or Jewels that of pioneer Angus Livingston of Boularderie Bras d'or, . THe assumption was made that Mary Ann Livingston was of the Low Point Livingtons of Roberta's ancestors connected toJohn Livingstone and Ann Macgilveray of John Livingston and Christy McPhee family. The Bras'or Livingstons are Angus Livingston's descendants not Roberta or Jewel's kin. So we need to figure that one out.
regards,
Donald
-
- Posts: 2778
- Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:00 pm
Re: Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research
HI Maryann,
Regarding Old Kate's husband John Livingston Jr. he did not die in 1848 as was stated in one source but rather around 1860. Note that Old Kate three youngest children were born after 1850 her son Hugh who ran her farm, Flora and Ann. I think the person who sourced the info was likely confused with John's father John Livingston Sr married to Catharine Campbell who died around 1840. Dr. St. Clair stated that JOhn SR. born 1775 died 1840 and his son John Livingston Jr. that was married to old Kate Livington originally of PEI he was born around 1800 and died in 1860.
regards,
Donald
Regarding Old Kate's husband John Livingston Jr. he did not die in 1848 as was stated in one source but rather around 1860. Note that Old Kate three youngest children were born after 1850 her son Hugh who ran her farm, Flora and Ann. I think the person who sourced the info was likely confused with John's father John Livingston Sr married to Catharine Campbell who died around 1840. Dr. St. Clair stated that JOhn SR. born 1775 died 1840 and his son John Livingston Jr. that was married to old Kate Livington originally of PEI he was born around 1800 and died in 1860.
regards,
Donald
-
- Posts: 2778
- Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:00 pm
Re: Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research
Hi All,
Ok so I found an error in Mabou Pioneers 2. I think we are ok. Not to worry. It states in Mabou Pioneers 2 that John Livingston son of old Kate of Mull river married Mary Ann Livingston of Bras d'or Livingstons. Is that correct Mary Ann. Actually that was Mary Ann Livingston daughter of John Livingston and Emily Roper of the Low Point Livingstons. Important difference to note. I think John was actually born about 1846 or 1845 at least according to the 1871 Census. How old was he at the time of his marriage do we know or in other census records.
regards,
Donald
Ok so I found an error in Mabou Pioneers 2. I think we are ok. Not to worry. It states in Mabou Pioneers 2 that John Livingston son of old Kate of Mull river married Mary Ann Livingston of Bras d'or Livingstons. Is that correct Mary Ann. Actually that was Mary Ann Livingston daughter of John Livingston and Emily Roper of the Low Point Livingstons. Important difference to note. I think John was actually born about 1846 or 1845 at least according to the 1871 Census. How old was he at the time of his marriage do we know or in other census records.
regards,
Donald