Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Roberta,

When we are talking about the earliest known Inverness County,Cape Breton Livingston pioneers we are looking at John Livingston b. 1774 a weaver said to be from Fort William, Invernesshire Scotland and his wife Isabel MacDonald b.1780 from 1803 at Judique which is an early Cape Breton settlement. You mentioned an 1812 arrival for John Livingston at Judique so we have sort that out with the original records at some point if we can. There were two sons Angus who died in his youth and Malcolm b. about 1803 who resided at Judique and later Port Hood and was married to Flora Cameron 1811-1900. I understand there were several daughters: Mary married John MacDonald, Sarah married Rory MacDonald,Anne married Alexander McIssac and Margaret married Donald MacDonald. This Livingston family was Roman Catholic as were the MacDonalds at Judique while other pioneer Livingston settlers in Inverness County attended the Presbyterian church. MacDonalds were early settlers at Judique. John Livingston is said to have originated from Fort William in Invernessshire Scotland but this is obviously close to the Western Argyllshire ancestral homeland of highland Maclea Livingstons from which John's ancestors no doubt originated at some earlier point in time.
Children of Malcolm Livingston and Flora Cameron of Judique/Port Hood, Inverness County, Cape Breton
1.Alexander
2.John 1832- m. Sarah
3.Allan 1833 m. Annie MacDonald
4.Angus 1837-1847
5.Mary 1841-1929
6.christy 1844-1917
7.Isabel 1846
8. Daniel b.1847
9.Jane 1849
10. Colin 1852 or 1854-1916

The 1881 census also includes a son Daniel born abt. 1847 which may be Donald. Some of these birth dates may not exactly match birth dates estimated from 1881 Census.

The 1881 Census is somewhat helpful. Apparently Malcolm died sometime between 1871 and 1881 and in the 1881 his widow Flora age 70 is living with son Collin a farmer age 27 and Daniel age 34, Mary age 33, Christie age 28, Isabella age 27 and Jane age 22 at Port Hood. Son Allan Livingston age 47 and his wife Annie age 34 are at Judique and son John Livingston age 48 is a farmer at Port Hood with his wife Sarrah age 44. You can compare this info with the above list and see some problems. I tryed to make some corrections but the dates dont seem right. The good news is the names seem to be correct. So we can work with the correct names and then try eventually to get more accurate info on them.

regards,

donald

[Roberta Ann]

Hi Donald;

The Livingstones of Low Point were Roman Catholic. John Livingstone Sr. 1782-1859; in his will of feb. 1853 bequeathed a

right of way to St. Alphonsus Parish where most of these early Livingstones are buried.

Roberta

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Roberta,

Sorry I meant in terms of the the Livingston pioneer families of old Inverness County only. Am I correct that your ancestor settled in Cape Breton County. I get a little confused with some of these counties on Cape Breton. I think Low point is in Cape Breton County. I realize they were also Roman Catholics.
Thanks for pointing that out.

regards,

Donald

[Roberta Ann]

Hi Donald;

Yes, Cape Breton County.

I could only find Colin. Colin, son of Malcolm, died June 16, 1915; age 64, single.

Roberta

[Roberta Ann]

Hi Donald;

Could you check again. Because I have Alexander married to Ann Macdonald not John. They had a son, Duncan, b. March 20, 1866. Middle River.

Then I have John Livingstone and Ann McDonald, Judique, Port Hood. Child: Catherine Margaret b. July 17, 1865.

Could there be 2 Ann McDonalds?

Roberta

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Roberta,

I dont remember where I found that family tree info on Malcolm's family to be honest. It was a long time ago. I guess it can be a starting point. Are the Middle River Livingstons part of the Judique family? I thought at one time they might actually be connected to the Mull River Livingstons but I have not been able to prove that. More likely connected to Mull River or Boularderie Livingston families. Could be another Ann McDonald connected to a Middle River Livingston. Dont think the Middle River Livingstons are connected to the Judique Livingstons. That of course was just my impression from looking at the census records in the area. I noticed John and Isabella's family were at Judique and nearby Port Hood on the coast. Wouldnt the marriage records etc be Roman Catholic records? I wonder what is available and how far back they go in Inverness County. That is something I dont know. Alot of the records available on Livingstons from Inverness County I suspect would be from old Presbyterian congregations. Someone in Inverness County, Cape Breton however would know what Catholic church records are available. I have done Quebec church record research and the marriage record collection is well organized and I traced my wife's ancestors marriages record s right back to the 1600's in that province, but that may not be the case for Roman Catholic church records in other provinces. What did you find out about the Catholic church records when researching your ancestors in Cape Breton County? When did they begin?

regards,

Donald

[Roberta Ann]

Good morning Donald;

I printed the 1881 Census: Port Hood, Judique and Glencoe.

Port Hood Family # 25

Flora widow age 70
Daniel age 34
Mary age 33
Colin age 27
Christie age 28
Jane age 22
Isabella age 27

Glencoe Family # 148

Catherine widow age 65
Mary age 32
Hugh age 30
Ann age 26

Judique Family # 65

Allan age 47
Annie age 34
Mary age 4

Port Hood Family # 27

Isabella age 60
John age 48
Sarah age 44
Roderick age 10
Malcolm age 12
Jessie age 18
Catherine age 14
Alexander age 8
Hugh age 16

I'll look for an earlier Census.

Regards;

Roberta

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Roberta,

So to sumarize regarding Inverness County, Cape Breton were are looking primarily at John Livingston a weaver b.1774 and Isabel MacDonald at Judique 1803 on the coast and later John Livingston Sr. and Catharine Campbell 1824 at Mull River, Inverness County, Cape Breton and their families.

In Cape Breton County, Cape Breton we have your ancestor John Livingston and his wife Christy McPhee at Low Point as early as 1807.

Finally in Victoria County, Cape Breton in 1819 we have Angus Livington b.1773 a Napoleonic war veteran from Kilninian Parish at Mull settling at Boularderie, Bras d'or.

Angus Livingston b.1773 was said to have been a veteran of the Napoleonic War. He served aboard the Royal George and I understood he was a Chelsea Pensioner which hopefully means that when the Chelsea Pension records go on line in the next few years from the British Archives that some military info on Angus will be verified. A number of highland ArgyllLivingston served in the military in the 1700's and 1800's and I noticed a few of them listed in some of the Chelsea Pension information I have seen so far. I think he took up settlement around 1819 in the years following the end of the Napoleonic War. There are some land records available on Angus and apparently on one it states that he named his property Kilninian obviously in reference to fact that he originated from somewhere in Kilninian Parish in Mull, Argyllshire. Whether he is a brother of the early settler Malcolm Livingston who setled at Pictou and Antigonish County in Nova Scotia in 1790's. That could be but I dont know that is something anyone can prove one way or another. Ann Capstick has done alot of research on old Angus and his family at Boularderie. I searched through the 1871 and 1881 Census records and located the sons of Angus Livingston at Boularderie, Bras d'or ALexander, Archibald and Roderick a sailor who the 1871 Census noted died in 1870. Ann Capstick identifies four of his family: Mary who married Archibald MacDonald, Archibald Livingston b.1804 d.1891 m. Jane Beaton, Alexander Livingston m. Isabella Deason and Roderick Livingston b.1810 d.1870 m. Flora Sutherland. There is also conflicting information that there was a fourth son Laughlin born 1799 but he does not appear to show up in later family records. The name Laughlin does infact continue in the family in a subsequent generation.
I have located cemetery records for Alexander, Archibald and the wife's but I am not sure where they went. They are buried in a local cemetery. It will no doubt come back to me. Most of the decendants in the Boularderied area should be connected to Alexander, Archibald or Roderick I would imagine. Hopefully we can get one of those descendants to participate in the DNA project in the future to see how they connect with your family and other suspected Mull families.

By the way the 1900 obituary for your ancestor John Livingstonn clearly states from family information that your family was from Mull so I think you can be confident with that. We really have not had that many Mull folks tested and Roger matches close to you likely not because he family imigrated from Fort William in Invernessshire Scotland but more from the fact of where his ancestors came from prior to moving to Fort William which would llikely have somewhere in the ancestral homeland of maclea Livingstones in Western Argyll. Our clan never existed originally in the Fort William area of Invernessshire and even in the early 1800;s there were not many Livingstons there. The Fort William info that Roger found from Donald Whyte's book is unfortunately misleading as to his family original highland origins which was not likely Invernessshire.

regards,

Donald

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Roberta,

Dont include Glencoe District as that is really Mabou (Mull River) which is the Mull RIver family of old Kate which i have already posted in on the forum for you, jewel and Maryann along with the 1871 and 1901 census. The Cathariine in that is old Kate her daughter Mary and her son Hugh who looked after the family farm. Not connected to Judique family. You are probably ok with Judique and Port Hood as that would be folks connected to Malcolm Livingston son of John and Isabella

regards,

Donadl

[Roberta Ann]

Hi Donald;

Middle River is in Victoria County. Have you copied the Livingstons who are buried in St. James Cemetery. If no, I have them copied. So let me know if you want me to look for the copy.

Regards;

Roberta