Thank you for the welcome & also the details of the family through the census records - very helpful, especially as I was planning on tracking the family through census records to get more of sense of who they were and what they did. This gives me a huge start,
I have now located Jean Livingston nee Donaldson's death certificate on the Scotland people site. She died in April 1862 aged 47. Her father was a lime stone quarrier. Her widower Donald died in Nov 1877. He was working as a gardener at the time.
Isabella (my ancestor) appears to have two daughter - my great grandmother Jane born in 1876 and Barbara born in 1880. On both occassiosns Isabella was working as a domestic servant. Jane's birth was registered by her grandfather Donald and Barbara's by James, her uncle.
I had the pleasure of meeting my great grandmother as a child - she died when I was about 10. I wish now I had asked her what brought her from the Isle of Seil to Dundee and more about life on the Island. I hadn't apprecaited their history until I started searching my family tree. It has also prompted me to plan a visit to the Island this summer.
Best wishes
Sandra
Best wishes
Sandra
Duncan Livingston, slate quarrier at Balvicar
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Re: Duncan Livingston, slate quarrier at Balvicar
Hi Sandra,
I think there are a great many of us doing our family history research who wished they had asked their older relatives about their ancestors. It is however fortunate for you to have met your great-grandmother before she passed on. No doubt she would of had some interesting stories tell regarding her Livingston family from the Isle of Seil. It would indeed be worthwhile for you to visit the the Island of your ancestors.
I can tell you that a significant number of Western Argyllshire Livingstons found work in the slate quarries located at Ballachulish, Isle of Luing, Easdale and Isle of Seil. I have studied the Scottish census records and found this to be the case. It would seem that slate put bread and butter on the table of many of our clan in the 1800's and likely before that. And some very excellent slate came out of Western Argyll I am told.
Interestingly, the forum has been contacted by some of the descendants of these slate workers in the last five years. As you may have noticed from some of our earlier postings here the slate industry kept Western Argyllshire Livingstons employed for many years. A number of their descendants settled in America, Australia and New Zealand. You might want sometime to read " Luing, Seil Islands that Roofed the World" by Mary Withall about Luing and Seil and the history of the slate quarries there. It is available on-line through Amazon.com
I have had no luck determing where "Dalemaig" was in Kilbrandon Parish. Presumingly on the Isle of Seil but I dont know that for sure. Donald b. abt. 1814 a tenant occupied one of the crofts there I would suppose. I think he was listed in the 1851 Census as a laborer at Dalemaig in Kilbrandon Parish age 37 born in Kilbrandon Parish,Argyllshire. In the 1861 Census he is listed as a farm servant residing at Dalemaig No. 2 age 47 born in Kilbrandon Parish, Argyllshire. In the 1871 Census Donald is recorded as living in Kilbrandon Parish age 57 and he is a gardener. No details in the 1871 Censu as to where what village he was living in Kilbrandon Parish but his 1877 death record probably has more details regarding that. I think you mentioned he died at Easdale. "Dalemaig" may be on a more detailed map of the area from the 1800's or an old Argyll area Ordinance Survey map. I will see if I can find it.
regards,
Donald
I think there are a great many of us doing our family history research who wished they had asked their older relatives about their ancestors. It is however fortunate for you to have met your great-grandmother before she passed on. No doubt she would of had some interesting stories tell regarding her Livingston family from the Isle of Seil. It would indeed be worthwhile for you to visit the the Island of your ancestors.
I can tell you that a significant number of Western Argyllshire Livingstons found work in the slate quarries located at Ballachulish, Isle of Luing, Easdale and Isle of Seil. I have studied the Scottish census records and found this to be the case. It would seem that slate put bread and butter on the table of many of our clan in the 1800's and likely before that. And some very excellent slate came out of Western Argyll I am told.
Interestingly, the forum has been contacted by some of the descendants of these slate workers in the last five years. As you may have noticed from some of our earlier postings here the slate industry kept Western Argyllshire Livingstons employed for many years. A number of their descendants settled in America, Australia and New Zealand. You might want sometime to read " Luing, Seil Islands that Roofed the World" by Mary Withall about Luing and Seil and the history of the slate quarries there. It is available on-line through Amazon.com
I have had no luck determing where "Dalemaig" was in Kilbrandon Parish. Presumingly on the Isle of Seil but I dont know that for sure. Donald b. abt. 1814 a tenant occupied one of the crofts there I would suppose. I think he was listed in the 1851 Census as a laborer at Dalemaig in Kilbrandon Parish age 37 born in Kilbrandon Parish,Argyllshire. In the 1861 Census he is listed as a farm servant residing at Dalemaig No. 2 age 47 born in Kilbrandon Parish, Argyllshire. In the 1871 Census Donald is recorded as living in Kilbrandon Parish age 57 and he is a gardener. No details in the 1871 Censu as to where what village he was living in Kilbrandon Parish but his 1877 death record probably has more details regarding that. I think you mentioned he died at Easdale. "Dalemaig" may be on a more detailed map of the area from the 1800's or an old Argyll area Ordinance Survey map. I will see if I can find it.
regards,
Donald
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Re: Duncan Livingston, slate quarrier at Balvicar
Hi Sandra
Sorry I haven't got back to you sooner. I've been trying to work out how best to let you have the information I have without having to type it all out. Perhaps some one who is more computer saavy than I could enlighten me.
I also have Duncan Livingston and Euphemia McInnes as ancestors through Donald's brother Neil. I think I have just managed to copy out what I have of Donald's family. The formatting might be a bit off but please come back to me if you need any explanation....
Descendants of DONALD LIVINGSTON
Generation No. 1
1. DONALD2 LIVINGSTON (DUNCAN1) was born Abt. 1813, and died 18 Nov 1877 in Easdale, Kilbrandon. He married JEAN DONALDSON 15 Mar 1835 in Glasgow, Lanark, daughter of ROBERT DONALDSON and MARY MCDONALD. She was born Abt. 1815 in Lochwinnoch, and died 28 Apr 1862 in Kilbride, Kilbrandon, Argyll.
Children of DONALD LIVINGSTON and JEAN DONALDSON are:
i. JOHN3 LIVINGSTON, b. Abt. 1835, Lochwinnoch.
2. ii. DUNCAN LIVINGSTON, b. 08 Sep 1837, Easdale, Kilbrandon, Argyll; d. 23 Jun 1914, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
3. iii. MARY LIVINGSTON, b. Abt. 1842, Kilbrandon.
4. iv. ALEXANDER LIVINGSTON, b. 01 Jun 1844, Kilbrandon, Argyll; d. 03 Mar 1931, 34 Bank, Ballachulish, Argyll.
5. v. ROBERT LIVINGSTON, b. 19 Sep 1846, Kilbrandon, Argyll; d. 02 Oct 1927, 76 Bay Street, Port Glasgow.
6. vi. MARGARET LIVINGSTON, b. 10 Feb 1849, Kilbrandon, Argyll; d. Aft. 1881.
vii. JEAN ANN LIVINGSTON, b. 28 Jun 1851, Kilbrandon, Argyll.
7. viii. DONALD LIVINGSTON, b. 22 Oct 1853, Ardmaddy, Kilbrandon; d. 05 Jun 1939, Colipool, Kilchattan, Argyll.
8. ix. EUPHEMIA LIVINGSTON, b. 20 Aug 1856, Ardmaddy, Kilbrandon.
9. x. ISABELLA LIVINGSTON, b. 20 Aug 1856, Ardmaddy, Kilbrandon.
xi. JAMES LIVINGSTON, b. 14 Sep 1859, Ardmaddy, Kilbrandon.
Generation No. 2
2. DUNCAN3 LIVINGSTON (DONALD2, DUNCAN1) was born 08 Sep 1837 in Easdale, Kilbrandon, Argyll, and died 23 Jun 1914 in East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe. He married MINNIE JOHNSON 08 Dec 1870 in Ballachulish, Argyll, daughter of ALEXANDER JOHNSON and MARY COLQUHOUN. She was born Abt. 1849 in Appin, Argyll, and died 20 Feb 1914 in East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
Children of DUNCAN LIVINGSTON and MINNIE JOHNSON are:
i. JAMES4 LIVINGSTON, b. 24 Sep 1872, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
ii. JEAN LIVINGSTON, b. 25 Sep 1874, Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
iii. MARY LIVINGSTON, b. 08 Aug 1876, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe; m. COLIN MCDONALD, 20 Oct 1914, Ballachulish, Argyll; b. Abt. 1868.
iv. CATHERINE LIVINGSTON, b. 21 Nov 1878, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe; m. JOHN CAMPBELL, 22 Oct 1913, Ballachulish, Glencoe; b. Abt. 1889.
v. DONALD LIVINGSTON, b. 07 Feb 1881, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
vi. ALEXANDER LIVINGSTON, b. 16 Apr 1883, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
vii. DUNCAN LIVINGSTON, b. 29 Aug 1885, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
viii. ROBERT LIVINGSTON, b. 14 May 1888, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
ix. JOHN LIVINGSTON, b. 19 Sep 1890, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
x. HUGH LIVINGSTON, b. 18 Aug 1893, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
3. MARY3 LIVINGSTON (DONALD2, DUNCAN1) was born Abt. 1842 in Kilbrandon. She married DUNCAN LIVINGSTON 01 Apr 1869 in Easdale, Kilbrandon, son of DONALD LIVINGSTON and ELIZABETH MCDONALD. He was born 28 Sep 1844 in Kilbrandon, Argyll.
Children of MARY LIVINGSTON and DUNCAN LIVINGSTON are:
i. JOHN4 LIVINGSTON, b. 20 Jan 1862, Kilbrandon, Argyll.
ii. DONALD LIVINGSTON, b. 21 May 1869, Easdale, Kilbrandon.
iii. JANE LIVINGSTON, b. 12 Apr 1871, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
iv. BERTY LIVINGSTON, b. 07 Jan 1873, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
v. MARGARET LIVINGSTON, b. Abt. 1875, Glencoe, Argyll.
vi. DUNCAN LIVINGSTON, b. 30 Nov 1876, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe; m. JEANNIE MCKAY MCDONALD, 05 Jun 1901, Portmary, Luing, Kilchattan; b. Abt. 1881.
4. ALEXANDER3 LIVINGSTON (DONALD2, DUNCAN1) was born 01 Jun 1844 in Kilbrandon, Argyll, and died 03 Mar 1931 in 34 Bank, Ballachulish, Argyll. He married CHRISTINA MCDONALD 04 Jan 1872 in Ballachulish, Argyll, daughter of PETER MCDONALD and CATHERINE CAMERON. She was born Abt. 1847 in Ballachulish, Argyll.
Children of ALEXANDER LIVINGSTON and CHRISTINA MCDONALD are:
i. PETER4 LIVINGSTON, b. 07 Feb 1874, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe, Argyll.
ii. JANE LIVINGSTON, b. 16 Dec 1875, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
iii. DUNCAN LIVINGSTON, b. Abt. 1878, Ballachulish, Argyll.
iv. DONALD LIVINGSTON, b. 19 Jun 1880, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
v. CATHERINE LIVINGSTON, b. Abt. 1890, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe; m. JOHN BLACK, 27 Oct 1911, 2 Burnbank Terrace, Oban; b. Abt. 1886.
5. ROBERT3 LIVINGSTON (DONALD2, DUNCAN1) was born 19 Sep 1846 in Kilbrandon, Argyll, and died 02 Oct 1927 in 76 Bay Street, Port Glasgow. He married CHRISTINA GRAY 07 Jun 1881 in The Port Glasgow Manse, Clune Brae, Port Glasgow, daughter of ANDREW GRAY and CHRISTINA MCCORKINDALE. She was born Abt. 1853.
Children of ROBERT LIVINGSTON and CHRISTINA GRAY are:
i. MARY4 LIVINGSTON, b. Abt. 1883.
ii. DONALD LIVINGSTON, b. Abt. 1884.
iii. JEANIE LIVINGSTON, b. Abt. 1888.
iv. WILLIAM LIVINGSTON, b. Abt. 1890.
6. MARGARET3 LIVINGSTON (DONALD2, DUNCAN1) was born 10 Feb 1849 in Kilbrandon, Argyll, and died Aft. 1881. She married DONALD MCCOLL 16 Jan 1872 in Easdale, Kilbrandon, son of DUNCAN MCCOLL and JANET MCKENZIE. He was born Abt. 1850 in Appin, Argyll, and died Aft. 1881.
Children of MARGARET LIVINGSTON and DONALD MCCOLL are:
i. MARY4 MCCOLL, b. 01 Oct 1872, Cullipool, Kilchattan, Argyll; m. ADAM BAXTER, 07 Jun 1895, St Peter's Church, Cullipool; b. Abt. 1867.
ii. MARGARET MCCOLL, b. 28 Oct 1873, Colipool, Kilchattan, Argyll; m. DAVID MCCULLOCH, 30 Dec 1897, Port Mary; b. 19 Sep 1874, 15 Brown Square, Langloan, Old Monland.
iii. JESSIE MCCOLL, b. 04 Sep 1875, Cullipol, Kilbrandon, Argyll; d. 30 Mar 1902, Belnahua; m. JAMES S LECK, 19 Mar 1897, Colipool, Kilbrandon & Kilchattan, Argyll; b. Abt. 1876, Port Glasgow, Renfrew.
iv. JOHN MCCOLL, b. 31 May 1877, Colipool, Kilchattan, Argyll.
v. JANE MCCOLL, b. 14 Sep 1879, Cullipool, Kilchattan, Argyll.
vi. DONALD LIVINGSTON MCCOLL, b. 15 Jan 1882, Cullipol, Kilbrandon, Argyll.
7. DONALD3 LIVINGSTON (DONALD2, DUNCAN1) was born 22 Oct 1853 in Ardmaddy, Kilbrandon, and died 05 Jun 1939 in Colipool, Kilchattan, Argyll. He married ANN MCNAB 15 Dec 1874 in Achalevan, Muckairn, daughter of DONALD MCNAB and JANET MCINTYRE. She was born Abt. 1848 in Ardincaple, Kilbrandon, and died 15 Oct 1923 in Colipool, Kilchattan, Argyll.
Children of DONALD LIVINGSTON and ANN MCNAB are:
i. DONALD4 LIVINGSTON, b. 13 Feb 1876, Kilbrandon, Argyll; m. ISABELLA MCPHAIL, 08 Jan 1908, The Caledonian Hotel, Oban; b. Abt. 1871.
ii. JESSIE LIVINGSTON, b. 06 Aug 1877, Easdale, Kilbrandon; d. 20 Aug 1955, 1 Drumvargie Terrace, Oban; m. COLIN MCGREGOR, 27 Nov 1914, 14 Soroba Road, Oban; b. Abt. 1879; d. Aft. 1955.
10. iii. JANE (JEANNIE) LIVINGSTONE, b. 17 Jun 1879, Easdale, Kilbrandon; d. 26 Jul 1927, 28 Cullipool, Kilchattan.
iv. NEIL LIVINGSTON, b. 16 Sep 1881, Ellenabeich, Kilbrandon; d. 27 Apr 1934, 28 Cullipool, Kilchattan.
v. JAMES LIVINGSTON, b. 08 Sep 1883, Ellenabeich, Kilbrandon; d. 26 Aug 1959, 8 Fladda Cottages, Cullipool, Luing, Kilchattan; m. ANNIE MAY, 24 Mar 1931, St Columba's Church, Glasgow; b. 17 Oct 1889; d. 21 Oct 1973, McKelvie Hospital, Oban.
vi. ALEXANDER MCNAB LIVINGSTON, b. 12 Nov 1885, Ellenabeich, Kilbrandon; m. MARGARET DYCE GORDON, 01 Oct 1915, Parish Church of Kilbrandon; b. Abt. 1885.
vii. DUNCAN LIVINGSTON, b. 14 Aug 1891, Colipool, Kilchattan, Argyll; d. 23 Jun 1894, Colipool, Kilchattan, Argyll.
8. EUPHEMIA3 LIVINGSTON (DONALD2, DUNCAN1) was born 20 Aug 1856 in Ardmaddy, Kilbrandon. She married JOHN MCKAY 05 Aug 1880 in Ellenabeich, Kilbrandon, son of NIEL MCKAY and ANN MCEACHNIE. He was born Abt. 1856 in Easdale, Kilbrandon, and died 05 Jul 1884 in Toberonochy, Kilchattan.
Children of EUPHEMIA LIVINGSTON and JOHN MCKAY are:
i. JANE4 MCKAY, b. 22 Apr 1881, Easdale, Kilbrandon.
ii. NEIL MCKAY, b. 08 Oct 1883, Toberonochy, Kilchattan; d. 30 Jul 1884, Toberonochy, Kilchattan.
9. ISABELLA3 LIVINGSTON (DONALD2, DUNCAN1) was born 20 Aug 1856 in Ardmaddy, Kilbrandon.
Children of ISABELLA LIVINGSTON are:
i. JANE4 LIVINGSTON, b. 12 Mar 1876, Easdale, Kilbrandon.
ii. BARBARA LIVINGSTON, b. Abt. 1881, Ellenabeich, Kilbrandon.
iii. DONALD LIVINGSTON, b. 06 Mar 1883, Ellenabeich, Kilbrandon.
iv. ISABELLA LIVINGSTON, b. 12 Jul 1892, Lorn Combination Poorhouse, Oban.
v. KENNETH LIVINGSTON, b. 12 Jul 1892, Lorn Combination Poorhouse, Oban.
Generation No. 3
10. JANE (JEANNIE)4 LIVINGSTONE (DONALD3 LIVINGSTON, DONALD2, DUNCAN1) was born 17 Jun 1879 in Easdale, Kilbrandon, and died 26 Jul 1927 in 28 Cullipool, Kilchattan. She married DUNCAN MCINNES 14 Jun 1900 in Royal Hotel, Oban, son of COLIN MCINNES and MARGARET GRAHAM. He was born 16 Apr 1867, and died Aft. 1927.
Children of JANE LIVINGSTONE and DUNCAN MCINNES are:
i. ALLAN5 MCINNES, b. 20 May 1901, Cullipool, Kilchattan.
ii. ANN MCNAB MCINNES, b. 28 Sep 1902, Cullipool, Kilchattan.
I might have a clue about Archibald but I'll need to do a bit of digging through my files .
I live in Scotland and will be up in the Oban area for a couple of weeks in April so if you want any photographs or further information I can get it for you. Do you live in the UK?
Kind regards
Margaret
Sorry I haven't got back to you sooner. I've been trying to work out how best to let you have the information I have without having to type it all out. Perhaps some one who is more computer saavy than I could enlighten me.
I also have Duncan Livingston and Euphemia McInnes as ancestors through Donald's brother Neil. I think I have just managed to copy out what I have of Donald's family. The formatting might be a bit off but please come back to me if you need any explanation....
Descendants of DONALD LIVINGSTON
Generation No. 1
1. DONALD2 LIVINGSTON (DUNCAN1) was born Abt. 1813, and died 18 Nov 1877 in Easdale, Kilbrandon. He married JEAN DONALDSON 15 Mar 1835 in Glasgow, Lanark, daughter of ROBERT DONALDSON and MARY MCDONALD. She was born Abt. 1815 in Lochwinnoch, and died 28 Apr 1862 in Kilbride, Kilbrandon, Argyll.
Children of DONALD LIVINGSTON and JEAN DONALDSON are:
i. JOHN3 LIVINGSTON, b. Abt. 1835, Lochwinnoch.
2. ii. DUNCAN LIVINGSTON, b. 08 Sep 1837, Easdale, Kilbrandon, Argyll; d. 23 Jun 1914, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
3. iii. MARY LIVINGSTON, b. Abt. 1842, Kilbrandon.
4. iv. ALEXANDER LIVINGSTON, b. 01 Jun 1844, Kilbrandon, Argyll; d. 03 Mar 1931, 34 Bank, Ballachulish, Argyll.
5. v. ROBERT LIVINGSTON, b. 19 Sep 1846, Kilbrandon, Argyll; d. 02 Oct 1927, 76 Bay Street, Port Glasgow.
6. vi. MARGARET LIVINGSTON, b. 10 Feb 1849, Kilbrandon, Argyll; d. Aft. 1881.
vii. JEAN ANN LIVINGSTON, b. 28 Jun 1851, Kilbrandon, Argyll.
7. viii. DONALD LIVINGSTON, b. 22 Oct 1853, Ardmaddy, Kilbrandon; d. 05 Jun 1939, Colipool, Kilchattan, Argyll.
8. ix. EUPHEMIA LIVINGSTON, b. 20 Aug 1856, Ardmaddy, Kilbrandon.
9. x. ISABELLA LIVINGSTON, b. 20 Aug 1856, Ardmaddy, Kilbrandon.
xi. JAMES LIVINGSTON, b. 14 Sep 1859, Ardmaddy, Kilbrandon.
Generation No. 2
2. DUNCAN3 LIVINGSTON (DONALD2, DUNCAN1) was born 08 Sep 1837 in Easdale, Kilbrandon, Argyll, and died 23 Jun 1914 in East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe. He married MINNIE JOHNSON 08 Dec 1870 in Ballachulish, Argyll, daughter of ALEXANDER JOHNSON and MARY COLQUHOUN. She was born Abt. 1849 in Appin, Argyll, and died 20 Feb 1914 in East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
Children of DUNCAN LIVINGSTON and MINNIE JOHNSON are:
i. JAMES4 LIVINGSTON, b. 24 Sep 1872, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
ii. JEAN LIVINGSTON, b. 25 Sep 1874, Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
iii. MARY LIVINGSTON, b. 08 Aug 1876, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe; m. COLIN MCDONALD, 20 Oct 1914, Ballachulish, Argyll; b. Abt. 1868.
iv. CATHERINE LIVINGSTON, b. 21 Nov 1878, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe; m. JOHN CAMPBELL, 22 Oct 1913, Ballachulish, Glencoe; b. Abt. 1889.
v. DONALD LIVINGSTON, b. 07 Feb 1881, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
vi. ALEXANDER LIVINGSTON, b. 16 Apr 1883, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
vii. DUNCAN LIVINGSTON, b. 29 Aug 1885, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
viii. ROBERT LIVINGSTON, b. 14 May 1888, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
ix. JOHN LIVINGSTON, b. 19 Sep 1890, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
x. HUGH LIVINGSTON, b. 18 Aug 1893, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
3. MARY3 LIVINGSTON (DONALD2, DUNCAN1) was born Abt. 1842 in Kilbrandon. She married DUNCAN LIVINGSTON 01 Apr 1869 in Easdale, Kilbrandon, son of DONALD LIVINGSTON and ELIZABETH MCDONALD. He was born 28 Sep 1844 in Kilbrandon, Argyll.
Children of MARY LIVINGSTON and DUNCAN LIVINGSTON are:
i. JOHN4 LIVINGSTON, b. 20 Jan 1862, Kilbrandon, Argyll.
ii. DONALD LIVINGSTON, b. 21 May 1869, Easdale, Kilbrandon.
iii. JANE LIVINGSTON, b. 12 Apr 1871, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
iv. BERTY LIVINGSTON, b. 07 Jan 1873, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
v. MARGARET LIVINGSTON, b. Abt. 1875, Glencoe, Argyll.
vi. DUNCAN LIVINGSTON, b. 30 Nov 1876, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe; m. JEANNIE MCKAY MCDONALD, 05 Jun 1901, Portmary, Luing, Kilchattan; b. Abt. 1881.
4. ALEXANDER3 LIVINGSTON (DONALD2, DUNCAN1) was born 01 Jun 1844 in Kilbrandon, Argyll, and died 03 Mar 1931 in 34 Bank, Ballachulish, Argyll. He married CHRISTINA MCDONALD 04 Jan 1872 in Ballachulish, Argyll, daughter of PETER MCDONALD and CATHERINE CAMERON. She was born Abt. 1847 in Ballachulish, Argyll.
Children of ALEXANDER LIVINGSTON and CHRISTINA MCDONALD are:
i. PETER4 LIVINGSTON, b. 07 Feb 1874, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe, Argyll.
ii. JANE LIVINGSTON, b. 16 Dec 1875, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
iii. DUNCAN LIVINGSTON, b. Abt. 1878, Ballachulish, Argyll.
iv. DONALD LIVINGSTON, b. 19 Jun 1880, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe.
v. CATHERINE LIVINGSTON, b. Abt. 1890, East Laroch, Ballachulish, Glencoe; m. JOHN BLACK, 27 Oct 1911, 2 Burnbank Terrace, Oban; b. Abt. 1886.
5. ROBERT3 LIVINGSTON (DONALD2, DUNCAN1) was born 19 Sep 1846 in Kilbrandon, Argyll, and died 02 Oct 1927 in 76 Bay Street, Port Glasgow. He married CHRISTINA GRAY 07 Jun 1881 in The Port Glasgow Manse, Clune Brae, Port Glasgow, daughter of ANDREW GRAY and CHRISTINA MCCORKINDALE. She was born Abt. 1853.
Children of ROBERT LIVINGSTON and CHRISTINA GRAY are:
i. MARY4 LIVINGSTON, b. Abt. 1883.
ii. DONALD LIVINGSTON, b. Abt. 1884.
iii. JEANIE LIVINGSTON, b. Abt. 1888.
iv. WILLIAM LIVINGSTON, b. Abt. 1890.
6. MARGARET3 LIVINGSTON (DONALD2, DUNCAN1) was born 10 Feb 1849 in Kilbrandon, Argyll, and died Aft. 1881. She married DONALD MCCOLL 16 Jan 1872 in Easdale, Kilbrandon, son of DUNCAN MCCOLL and JANET MCKENZIE. He was born Abt. 1850 in Appin, Argyll, and died Aft. 1881.
Children of MARGARET LIVINGSTON and DONALD MCCOLL are:
i. MARY4 MCCOLL, b. 01 Oct 1872, Cullipool, Kilchattan, Argyll; m. ADAM BAXTER, 07 Jun 1895, St Peter's Church, Cullipool; b. Abt. 1867.
ii. MARGARET MCCOLL, b. 28 Oct 1873, Colipool, Kilchattan, Argyll; m. DAVID MCCULLOCH, 30 Dec 1897, Port Mary; b. 19 Sep 1874, 15 Brown Square, Langloan, Old Monland.
iii. JESSIE MCCOLL, b. 04 Sep 1875, Cullipol, Kilbrandon, Argyll; d. 30 Mar 1902, Belnahua; m. JAMES S LECK, 19 Mar 1897, Colipool, Kilbrandon & Kilchattan, Argyll; b. Abt. 1876, Port Glasgow, Renfrew.
iv. JOHN MCCOLL, b. 31 May 1877, Colipool, Kilchattan, Argyll.
v. JANE MCCOLL, b. 14 Sep 1879, Cullipool, Kilchattan, Argyll.
vi. DONALD LIVINGSTON MCCOLL, b. 15 Jan 1882, Cullipol, Kilbrandon, Argyll.
7. DONALD3 LIVINGSTON (DONALD2, DUNCAN1) was born 22 Oct 1853 in Ardmaddy, Kilbrandon, and died 05 Jun 1939 in Colipool, Kilchattan, Argyll. He married ANN MCNAB 15 Dec 1874 in Achalevan, Muckairn, daughter of DONALD MCNAB and JANET MCINTYRE. She was born Abt. 1848 in Ardincaple, Kilbrandon, and died 15 Oct 1923 in Colipool, Kilchattan, Argyll.
Children of DONALD LIVINGSTON and ANN MCNAB are:
i. DONALD4 LIVINGSTON, b. 13 Feb 1876, Kilbrandon, Argyll; m. ISABELLA MCPHAIL, 08 Jan 1908, The Caledonian Hotel, Oban; b. Abt. 1871.
ii. JESSIE LIVINGSTON, b. 06 Aug 1877, Easdale, Kilbrandon; d. 20 Aug 1955, 1 Drumvargie Terrace, Oban; m. COLIN MCGREGOR, 27 Nov 1914, 14 Soroba Road, Oban; b. Abt. 1879; d. Aft. 1955.
10. iii. JANE (JEANNIE) LIVINGSTONE, b. 17 Jun 1879, Easdale, Kilbrandon; d. 26 Jul 1927, 28 Cullipool, Kilchattan.
iv. NEIL LIVINGSTON, b. 16 Sep 1881, Ellenabeich, Kilbrandon; d. 27 Apr 1934, 28 Cullipool, Kilchattan.
v. JAMES LIVINGSTON, b. 08 Sep 1883, Ellenabeich, Kilbrandon; d. 26 Aug 1959, 8 Fladda Cottages, Cullipool, Luing, Kilchattan; m. ANNIE MAY, 24 Mar 1931, St Columba's Church, Glasgow; b. 17 Oct 1889; d. 21 Oct 1973, McKelvie Hospital, Oban.
vi. ALEXANDER MCNAB LIVINGSTON, b. 12 Nov 1885, Ellenabeich, Kilbrandon; m. MARGARET DYCE GORDON, 01 Oct 1915, Parish Church of Kilbrandon; b. Abt. 1885.
vii. DUNCAN LIVINGSTON, b. 14 Aug 1891, Colipool, Kilchattan, Argyll; d. 23 Jun 1894, Colipool, Kilchattan, Argyll.
8. EUPHEMIA3 LIVINGSTON (DONALD2, DUNCAN1) was born 20 Aug 1856 in Ardmaddy, Kilbrandon. She married JOHN MCKAY 05 Aug 1880 in Ellenabeich, Kilbrandon, son of NIEL MCKAY and ANN MCEACHNIE. He was born Abt. 1856 in Easdale, Kilbrandon, and died 05 Jul 1884 in Toberonochy, Kilchattan.
Children of EUPHEMIA LIVINGSTON and JOHN MCKAY are:
i. JANE4 MCKAY, b. 22 Apr 1881, Easdale, Kilbrandon.
ii. NEIL MCKAY, b. 08 Oct 1883, Toberonochy, Kilchattan; d. 30 Jul 1884, Toberonochy, Kilchattan.
9. ISABELLA3 LIVINGSTON (DONALD2, DUNCAN1) was born 20 Aug 1856 in Ardmaddy, Kilbrandon.
Children of ISABELLA LIVINGSTON are:
i. JANE4 LIVINGSTON, b. 12 Mar 1876, Easdale, Kilbrandon.
ii. BARBARA LIVINGSTON, b. Abt. 1881, Ellenabeich, Kilbrandon.
iii. DONALD LIVINGSTON, b. 06 Mar 1883, Ellenabeich, Kilbrandon.
iv. ISABELLA LIVINGSTON, b. 12 Jul 1892, Lorn Combination Poorhouse, Oban.
v. KENNETH LIVINGSTON, b. 12 Jul 1892, Lorn Combination Poorhouse, Oban.
Generation No. 3
10. JANE (JEANNIE)4 LIVINGSTONE (DONALD3 LIVINGSTON, DONALD2, DUNCAN1) was born 17 Jun 1879 in Easdale, Kilbrandon, and died 26 Jul 1927 in 28 Cullipool, Kilchattan. She married DUNCAN MCINNES 14 Jun 1900 in Royal Hotel, Oban, son of COLIN MCINNES and MARGARET GRAHAM. He was born 16 Apr 1867, and died Aft. 1927.
Children of JANE LIVINGSTONE and DUNCAN MCINNES are:
i. ALLAN5 MCINNES, b. 20 May 1901, Cullipool, Kilchattan.
ii. ANN MCNAB MCINNES, b. 28 Sep 1902, Cullipool, Kilchattan.
I might have a clue about Archibald but I'll need to do a bit of digging through my files .
I live in Scotland and will be up in the Oban area for a couple of weeks in April so if you want any photographs or further information I can get it for you. Do you live in the UK?
Kind regards
Margaret
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Re: Duncan Livingston, slate quarrier at Balvicar
Margaret,
I came across this a while ago, while looking for someone else, I also live in Scotland, from Greenock.
At Port Glasgow manse, Clune Brae, on 07 June 1881, Robert Livingstone, occ. ploughman, residence difficult to read, looks like ---dockhall, Kilmacolm, f. Donald Livingstone, occ. gardener, deceased, m. Jean Donaldson, occ. domestic servant, residence looks like Shovelbraid, Houston, again, residence difficult to read, f. Andrew Gray, occ. ploughman, deceased, m. Christina McCorkindale.
Witnesses Margaret McLaren & James Fleming.
I've had a look through present day farms in the area, I don't see either of these two,
John
I came across this a while ago, while looking for someone else, I also live in Scotland, from Greenock.
At Port Glasgow manse, Clune Brae, on 07 June 1881, Robert Livingstone, occ. ploughman, residence difficult to read, looks like ---dockhall, Kilmacolm, f. Donald Livingstone, occ. gardener, deceased, m. Jean Donaldson, occ. domestic servant, residence looks like Shovelbraid, Houston, again, residence difficult to read, f. Andrew Gray, occ. ploughman, deceased, m. Christina McCorkindale.
Witnesses Margaret McLaren & James Fleming.
I've had a look through present day farms in the area, I don't see either of these two,
John
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Re: Duncan Livingston, slate quarrier at Balvicar
Hi John,
Thanks for that. I live in Kirkintilloch, just north of Glasgow.
I have a note of this marriage and I have his usual residence at the time of his marriage as Parkhill, Kilmacolm. I think I must have got this from the original source so it may have been clearer and I have Christina's usual residence as Shovelboard, Houston. I do think that Shovelbraid seems more likely though.
I have the names and approximate dates of birth of the family of this couple - Mary born c1883, Donald c1884, Jeanie c 1888 and William c1890 but haven't followed this line any further. Robert died 2nd October 1927 at 76 Bay Street, Port Glasgow and his death was registered by his son D. Livingston.
Incidently my Gt Grandfather Duncan Livingston was born in Greenock in c1845, son of Neil Livingston and Janet Cameron but I haven't been able to find his birth. I have always wondered what the connection was with Greenock, Port Glasgow etc. I see that Robert's brother was born in Lochwinnoch in 1835 probably because that was where Jean Donaldson was born. Neil and Donald were brothers so possibly they came to the area for employment.
Thanks again,
Margaret
Thanks for that. I live in Kirkintilloch, just north of Glasgow.
I have a note of this marriage and I have his usual residence at the time of his marriage as Parkhill, Kilmacolm. I think I must have got this from the original source so it may have been clearer and I have Christina's usual residence as Shovelboard, Houston. I do think that Shovelbraid seems more likely though.
I have the names and approximate dates of birth of the family of this couple - Mary born c1883, Donald c1884, Jeanie c 1888 and William c1890 but haven't followed this line any further. Robert died 2nd October 1927 at 76 Bay Street, Port Glasgow and his death was registered by his son D. Livingston.
Incidently my Gt Grandfather Duncan Livingston was born in Greenock in c1845, son of Neil Livingston and Janet Cameron but I haven't been able to find his birth. I have always wondered what the connection was with Greenock, Port Glasgow etc. I see that Robert's brother was born in Lochwinnoch in 1835 probably because that was where Jean Donaldson was born. Neil and Donald were brothers so possibly they came to the area for employment.
Thanks again,
Margaret
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Re: Duncan Livingston, slate quarrier at Balvicar
Margaret,
This looks like your Neil & Janet, got this from an OPR,
Neil Livingstone, occ. shoemaker, resident Barony, Glasgow married Janet Cameron, resident Glasgow, on 10 Nov. 1844, GROS data 644/01 0420 0785 Glasgow.
I think there was also a Duncan somewhere who was a shoemaker.
Son Duncan b. 1845, nothing further on him at present, I'll have a look in the local Greenock papers, see if they have anything,
John
This looks like your Neil & Janet, got this from an OPR,
Neil Livingstone, occ. shoemaker, resident Barony, Glasgow married Janet Cameron, resident Glasgow, on 10 Nov. 1844, GROS data 644/01 0420 0785 Glasgow.
I think there was also a Duncan somewhere who was a shoemaker.
Son Duncan b. 1845, nothing further on him at present, I'll have a look in the local Greenock papers, see if they have anything,
John
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Re: Duncan Livingston, slate quarrier at Balvicar
Hi Margaret,
Youve obviously done alot of research and are quite familiar with the genealogy of this family. Nice job. I havent been able to locate Dalemaig mentioned in both the 1851 and 1861 Census in Donald's census info. I assume it to have been on the Isle of Seil or neighbouring Easdale but really dont know for certain. There is also the possibility that there is another spelling I am not aware of. So far I have not found it on any map of Scotland. Perhaps some historian from the Slate Islands might have some familiarity with this village and it's location.
regards,
Donald
Youve obviously done alot of research and are quite familiar with the genealogy of this family. Nice job. I havent been able to locate Dalemaig mentioned in both the 1851 and 1861 Census in Donald's census info. I assume it to have been on the Isle of Seil or neighbouring Easdale but really dont know for certain. There is also the possibility that there is another spelling I am not aware of. So far I have not found it on any map of Scotland. Perhaps some historian from the Slate Islands might have some familiarity with this village and it's location.
regards,
Donald
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Re: Duncan Livingston, slate quarrier at Balvicar
Hi John,
Perhaps your son-in-law might know someone who might have heard of a village called Dalemaig on one of the Slate Islands in Kilbrandon Parish and know where it is or was.
regards,
Donald
Perhaps your son-in-law might know someone who might have heard of a village called Dalemaig on one of the Slate Islands in Kilbrandon Parish and know where it is or was.
regards,
Donald
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Re: Duncan Livingston, slate quarrier at Balvicar
Thanks John, that's "my" Duncan - my Gt Grandfather. Born 1845 Greenock died 9 November 1904 Oban He was a shoemaker also. He married Margaret McGillivray on 4 September 1847 in Tobermory. At that time they were both living at Drumlang, nr Salen, Mull. Duncan had a brother Alexander, born c1849 at Largs and a sister, Euphemia born c1855 died 8 March 1881 Lochgilphead, not married. Haven't found anything about Alexander yet.
Margaret
Margaret
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Re: Duncan Livingston, slate quarrier at Balvicar
Hi Donald,
I'm afraid I can't find Dalemnig/Dalemaig either. I've looked through all the old maps and books that I have to no avail. Given that Donald worked as a gardener at Ardmaddy I wonder if that was the name of a house or hamlet attached to Ardmaddy. Ardmaddy was a large estate down near South Cuan Ferry and you will see the entry for Donald and his family on the 1871 census is the one before South Cuan Ferry.
I'm going up there at the start of April for a couple of weeks so I'll ask at the heritage centre and I'll keep my eyes peeled for names of houses as we drive around.
Kind regards
Margaret
I'm afraid I can't find Dalemnig/Dalemaig either. I've looked through all the old maps and books that I have to no avail. Given that Donald worked as a gardener at Ardmaddy I wonder if that was the name of a house or hamlet attached to Ardmaddy. Ardmaddy was a large estate down near South Cuan Ferry and you will see the entry for Donald and his family on the 1871 census is the one before South Cuan Ferry.
I'm going up there at the start of April for a couple of weeks so I'll ask at the heritage centre and I'll keep my eyes peeled for names of houses as we drive around.
Kind regards
Margaret