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Canadian Livingstone wrote:We should inform the gentleman from Australia that did that 2006 posting that according to the St. James Episcopal Church information from Ballachulish and census records his ancestor James Livingston b. abt. 1805 was married to Isabella Clark and they lived in the West laroch village of Ballachulish near the Slate Quarry there where many of the local people found work.
Done!
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Kyle S. MacLea Clan Society Life Member; DNA Project Co-Admin New Hampshire, USA kyle-dot-maclea-at-gmail-dot-com
WOW.. I am excited to have stirred up some fun here on the board for more people than just me! (and greatly appreciative.)
I was told by ?someone? at one time that we are related to Dr. David Livinston(e). The funny thing is that on my Mother's side we are related to William Clark (Lewis & Clark) which makes me a twin line of explorers... Which certainly fits my personality (and explains how a friend of mine and I got lost for a whole day in the Killarney National Park a couple weeks ago. Even I know that " This looks like a shortcut" should never be acted upon in a giant forest full of rutting deer.)
I did email the Ballachulish Council ( I am sure there will come a time soon when I don't have to google it every time to spell it.) http://www.ballachulish.org.uk/council/default.aspx.... to inquire about possible Livingston(e)s. I will certainly share any response.
Hello Ginger,
After finding Donald Livingstone b.May 1863 Scotland with his family in the 1900 census for Boulder, Colorado I took a look in the 1910 census and 1920 census for him and family, but didn't find him anywhere. I first checked Colorado and then California and finially all of the U. S. states and couldn't find him or his wife Mary anywhere. The only one I did find was John W. his son b. 1895 Georgia with his wife Mable living in Los Angeles,California in the 1920 census. My question is, do you think Donald left the U.S. and went back to Scotland or maybe moved to Canada? Maybe you know more on what happened to Donald b. 1863 Scotland.
While I was at the library today I took a look at the immigration records on Ancestry.com. The only Donald Livingston that I found for the year 1886 was traveling alone on the ship "Umbria" which sailed from Liverpool and arrived in New York on May 31,1886. It gave Donalds age as 25 occupation Plasterer and his origins were Glasgow, Scotland. Don't really know if this is your ancestor or not but thought I would pass it along. I know on my information on Donald from the 1900 census that I previously posted I think I said immigrated 1886 GA., but went back to double check and it didn't say immigrated 1886 Ga., it said immigrated 1886 NA, which means he was naturalized. So maybe you have information to confirm what state Donald immigrated to.
She has become very close with David Ogilvy's (Oglivy and Mather advertising) family. Touffou is their family home. Since Ogilvy is a Scottish name she wants me to find out if we are connected in any way to the Ogilvys.
I have two Scottish family lines to work from. Livingston ad McCarter. Where would I start?
Well I wish to emphasize that this is only one theory about Dr. Livingstones ancestors and origins in County Argyll based in part on local Ballachulish folklore perhaps that Dr. David Livingstone's Maconlea ancestors for several generations lived in the Ballachulish area of Western Argyll with the first name of John. I have examined this in some previous postings in our old forum but I have no proof that this is case. Based upon this I had a notion that Dr. Livingstone's great grandfather fought and died at Culloden and that perhaps he was the John Livingstone of Ballachulish Estate mentioned in Baron Alastair Livingston's book " NO Quarter Given" as having served in Appin Regiment. THe eldest in Dr. Livingstone's family was his brother and his name was John. Also the eldest in Dr. Livingstone's fathers family had been a John Livngston born 1774. So this is one reason I am interested in seeing that as many Livingston families of Ballachulish origin are tested to eventually either prove the folklore or disprove it. Regardless I am interested in which group of Livingstons so far tested your Livingston family test results will match up with.
Hi Ginger,
We greatly appreciate your delightful energy and the information you have brought us on your Ballachulish LIvingstones and look forward to your messages at the Maclea Livingstone Society forum,I would just remind you that this is forum is all about the Maclea Livingstone Clan Society and we do unfortunately I think have to impose some research limitations. As such we have to constrain ourselves somewhat to focusing on Livingston and Maclea research only. WHile we do some Livingstone and Maclea related research on a volunteer basis I would have some concerns if we opened the forum up to research other families not of a Maclea Livingstone nature. I hope this is fair and just.
Well as far as finding out if there is any connection between Ogilvy family and your's? I'm afraid that is beyond my capabilities, I wouldn't know where to start either. Sorry about that.
So it sounds like we can disregard the information that I found on Donald Livingston arriveing in New York in 1886. If your grandmother says he went from Scotland to Georgia, I would say that is correct. Also we know his children were born in Georgia and he had been married for 10 years in the 1900 census for Colorado. So he was probabllly married in Georgia also. You might want to try to find out where the vital records for Georgia are held and see if you can find birth cert. or marriage cert. for them in Georgia.
It does seem strange that Donald and family are not in the 1910 or 1920 U.S.census, at least I couldn't find them. Do you have any information on where or when he died? Have you tried to find a record of his death? That is somethng I would suggest. If you find his death date then you could look for his obituary which usually gives you information on his family. Did you say you know when John W. Livingstone died? his obit might be interesting to look at also.
Having learned so much about John W's ancestors in Scotland I am also interested learning more about the family in America from Ginger. I found it so interesting to discover that Donald his father Dugald and the grandfather Donald b.1802 were stone workers and involved with quarry work. Census records are so useful in discovering ones ancestors and kin.
Canadian Livingstone wrote:Hi Ginger,
We greatly appreciate your delightful energy and the information you have brought us on your Ballachulish LIvingstones and look forward to your messages at the Maclea Livingstone Society forum,I would just remind you that this is forum is all about the Maclea Livingstone Clan Society and we do unfortunately I think have to impose some research limitations. As such we have to constrain ourselves somewhat to focusing on Livingston and Maclea research only. WHile we do some Livingstone and Maclea related research on a volunteer basis I would have some concerns if we opened the forum up to research other families not of a Maclea Livingstone nature. I hope this is fair and just.
regards,
Donald
OH NO NO......PLease no one misunderstand. I don't want anyone doing that for me and certainly not involving this Clan site. I understand completly..Just wanted a point in the right direction as to how one would start looking. I don't know anything about that kind of research. I only used census records once to find a criminal (that's one heck of a story too)
Well as far as finding out if there is any connection between Ogilvy family and your's? I'm afraid that is beyond my capabilities, I wouldn't know where to start either. Sorry about that.
So it sounds like we can disregard the information that I found on Donald Livingston arriveing in New York in 1886. If your grandmother says he went from Scotland to Georgia, I would say that is correct. Also we know his children were born in Georgia and he had been married for 10 years in the 1900 census for Colorado. So he was probabllly married in Georgia also. You might want to try to find out where the vital records for Georgia are held and see if you can find birth cert. or marriage cert. for them in Georgia.
It does seem strange that Donald and family are not in the 1910 or 1920 U.S.census, at least I couldn't find them. Do you have any information on where or when he died? Have you tried to find a record of his death? That is somethng I would suggest. If you find his death date then you could look for his obituary which usually gives you information on his family. Did you say you know when John W. Livingstone died? his obit might be interesting to look at also.
Jewel
I can certainly call Grandma & Grandpa tomorrow and see if there is more info I can get! I am almost positive I know where Grandpa Jack died. (John William Livingston Sr.) Alhambra, Ca. and I know it was 1962 because I was not a year old. I will confirm that tomorrow.
