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I am sorry I just spent an hour explaining it all from the beginning and I then just lost all the info from my posting. Second time it has happened to me. Took me 2 hours and now it is all lost. How annoying is that.
So sorry! That is never fun.
Sometimes, I type long messages in Word first, then copy and paste.
Or, while you're typing you can hit "save" below. It's annoying, but it might save you some frustration!
Argh!
Kyle=
Kyle S. MacLea Clan Society Life Member; DNA Project Co-Admin New Hampshire, USA kyle-dot-maclea-at-gmail-dot-com
Hi Kyle,
Try following the story line by picking up from the last posting to Barry. Basically a condensed version of the two hour long epic mini series length explanation I lost a few minutes ago. Enjoy.
Interesting how Catharine or Kate Livingston gives a different age in every census for some strange reason .
In 1871 she is 59
in 1881 she is 65
in 1901 she is 87
I think her correct birth year is 1807 but cannot be entirely certain. I wonder if Jewel could find her cemetery info from the Cape Breton Historical Society. I think at her time of death it was 1807-1912 but I will have go back to my notes.
You have no doubt some idea of Colin's family at least you know he had a son John and son Angus from your own family research and approximate birth dates from the PEI census records. Here is the families of John Livingston Jr. 1808-1860 and Catharine Livingston 1808-1912 and Alexander Livingston 1814-? and his wife Annie b. abt. 1826 If 1860 was just a guess a long time ago for John Livingston's Junior death then based upon the birth of the last child of john and old Kate it would be extra safe to say he died between 1855 and 1860 as I guess without records or a cemetery inscription no one really knows for certain. He is not listed in the 1861 Census and his wife Kitty (Kate, Catharine is listed as head of the household) so we can safely assume he died before 1861.
Based on Dr. St. Clair's information and the census info this is what we know about John Junior and Old Kate's family
John Livingston Jr. and Catharine Livingston of Livingston Mountain, Mull River (S.E Mabou)
1.Duncan b. abt. 1841 m. Mary McDonald May 10, 1874 Vale Coliery, New Glasgow where Duncan was a miner
2. Mary born abt. 1844 ( abt.1849 in 1881 Census,June 1850 in 1901 Census) b. May 15, 1844? 1841-1921 Boston?
3. Catharine born abt. 1846 or 1847 married Henry Monck of Dorchester, Mass.
4. John born 1847 died 1904 Thorburn, Nova Scotia
5. Jane born 1849-1940 married widower James Adams of Hillsborough
5. Hugh born abt. 1851-1943 unmarried
6. Flora born abt. 1853-1922 married widower Dougal Adams
7. Ann born abt. 1855-1920 unmarried
Old kate's son Hugh born abt. 1851 was the only son that remained on the farm at Mull RIver with his mother.
Alexander Livingston age 67 in 1881 Census b. abt. 1814
Annie Livingston age 50 born abt 1831 or age 45 in 1871 Census born abt. 1826 sister of old Kate
Alexander Livingston and Annie Livingston of Skye Mountain, Whycocomagh
1. Catharine born abt. 1844
2. Duncan born abt. 1846
3. John born abt. 1848
4. Dougall born abt. 1851
5. James born abt. 1855
6. Donald age abt. 1864
THis is a work in progress but something to start with.
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Here is my one pager....a compilation of everything would make one interesting article.......I have made some revisions. I have tried to concentrate on Colin's history mainly. There is still the history of John Jr. too. Anyone want to take that project on? It would be nice to include both brothers. I may make additional changes....keep reading it and seeing stuff that needs to be changed lol. Looks like I have the beginnings of a family history.
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Colin Livingstone was the son of John Livingston and Catherine Campbell, who immigrated to Nova Scotia in the year 1821. Shortly after arriving in Nova Scotia they moved their family, in 1824, to Mull River, Inverness County, Cape Breton. In later years, as recorded in the census of 1861, Colin’s household consisted of 4 males and 3 females, and they were now living on a farm in Whycocomagh. Colin’s brother Alexander and his family also moved to a Whycocomagh farm, while brother John remained on the family farm in Mull River with his family. Ironically both Alexander and John married Livingston sister’s from Prince Edward Island, Ann and Catherine, and from previous research were from Nine Mile Creek. This relationship between Prince Edward Island and the entire family warrants further research, considering there are still remaining family members not accounted for.
Colin moved his family to Prince Edward Island shortly before November 13, 1865, when he bought a 96 acre farm in Forest Hill, from the Courier of Crown Lands. In 1867 Colin died suddenly leaving his widow Catherine behind with their three sons and two daughters, on the family farm in Forest Hill. The Children are recorded in a land conveyance agreement in 1895 as John, Johnnie, Angus, Katherine and Mary. All children except for Katherine were living on Prince Edward Island at the time of the land transfer.
In 1892 the farm was transferred to Angus from Colin’s widow Catherine. There is no record of a maiden name for Catherine, and the only reference to her existence post-1867 is in the noted conveyance agreement. She does not appear in any census documents pre-1911. I suspect in 1892 she was elderly in years and was settling her affairs before her death. She likely died shortly after.
In January of 1896 the Forest Hill Farm was transferred over to Colin’s son Johnnie, from Angus. Angus bought a farm a few miles away in Upton, a small community bordering Dundas. This farm was once owned by Angus’ brother-in-law John Martin, who was married to Angus’ sister Mary. I suspect Angus may have bought this from his sister, for in later census documents, Mary’s husband John has either died or is no longer living with her. John may have been one of the accused in the Rum Riot of Dundas, in 1860, where he and other men attacked the Clay family of Dundas for their Temperance stance in the community. John was never convicted of the crime.
John was the last Livingston to own the farm in Forest Hill. John had only one son, Colin. Colin died at the young age of 31, in 1909. This was John Livingston’s only male heir. There are still descendents of the daughters in Eastern PEI today.
Angus was married to Catherine Kelly, of Uigg, PEI. They had six children, John Duncan, John Colin, Archy N., Sarah A. and Sadie A. John Duncan was my grandfather. He has descendents numbering eight children, 32 grandchildren, numerous great grandchildren and a few great-great grandchildren. John Duncan has 2 sons and 2 grandsons still living in the Dundas area.
Stories my mother has told about my grandfather is that he was a man of high standing in the community. He was fluent speaker and writer of the Gaelic language. He was a school trustee and their home was always filled with family and friends. We have a proud heritage and their perseverance has formed the foundation of the families of today.
Last edited by Livingstone_PEI on Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:08 pm, edited 3 times in total.
I enjoyed reading the finished product knowing that you worked so hard to reach this point over the year. Considering how little info you had to go on in the beginning this should be considered a monumental accomplishment. Colin Livingston is no longer just a name, he has a story and a descendant to tell it.
Yes I dropped a copy off to my mother today. I had to take her to a doctor's appointment. She got a little sentimental on me when I showed her a printed copy of the history of her family so far.
We had a chance to talk and it turns out there are many more male Livingstons from Colin's line. My mom said that her uncle Malcolm's son Angus raised his family in Ontario and they have a summer home here on PEI. Angus comes home in the summer, so I am going to see if I can find an address for Angus and see if I can get in touch with him. He is an elderly man and may have additional family history he would like to add. Donald do you know an Angus Livingston in Ontario. I know there is likely more than one Angus Livingston in the entire province, but maybe you have heard of him in your travels. He has sons and at least one of them is a doctor according to my mother. I am going to see if I can track him down.
