Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research

[Roberta Ann]

Hi Donald;

I am just looking at the 1861 Census for Cape Breton and I noticed Inverness is separated into districts. I found that our 4th great Grandmother Christy McPhee Livingstone is living with Alexander, her son. I had to figure this out by the numbers that are given underneath the names.
So unless I know the district # for Whycocomagh, Mabou, Glencoe and Port Hood because they are all under the heading Inverness. It just so happens that when I gave-up on it that I went to our site and read your messege.
There is something I would like to know, though; how far is Cape George, by water, from the Cape Breton shore. Because I read that people walked across the frozen Canso Strait in winter, to visit relatives; no doubt. Also some in Cape George has businesses on both sides. The mainland N.S. and Cape Breton.

Regards;

Roberta

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Roberta,

Yes it is almost impossible to find anyone in that census unless you familiarise yourself with District and abtract breakdown. I dont remember all the districts but here are some of them: Each District has several Abtracts each listing a group of residents. In my earlier postings I recorded the District no. name of community and the Abtract no. from the District where I located a Livingston. Barry found Malcolm Livingston son of John and Isabel Livingston of Port Hood whom I missed when I went to the library last week.

District 1 Plaister Cove, District 2 Judique, District 3 River Inhabitants, District 4 Port Hood, District 5 Mabou, Whycocomagh District 12 DiMy earlier posting and that of Barry can be used to help locate ALexander, Colin, Malcolm and other Livingstons in that 1861 Census.

Alexander Livingston of Whycocomagh is located in Polling District 12 Abtract 6 entry 26
Colleen Livingston of Whycocomagh is located in Polling District 12 Abstract 4 entry 27
Malcolm Livingston of Port Hood Polling District 4 Abstract 2
Catharine Livingston of Mabou Polling District 5 Abstract 1 entry 24 (widow of John Sr.?)
Kitty Livingston of Mabou Polling District 5 Abstract 2 entry 21(widow of John Jr.?)
Flora Livingston ?of Mabou Polling District 5 Abstract 7 entry 15
Sam or Jane Livingston ?of Mabou Polling District 5 Abstract 9 entry 4

Hope this helps.

regards,

Donald

[Roberta Ann]

Hi Donald;

I just finished going through the 1818 census(incomplete) for Cape Breton.
The only Livingstone listed was John age 45 weaver in Little Judique with a wife and 6 children.
This is the John P. Livingstone b. 1773 in Fort William. John settled, first, at Livingstone Cove, Cape George and later in Little Judique. According to his petition for land in 1814 he states he acquired, by license, 300 acres from Captain Hugh Watts then he was granted 40 acres for firewood.
In the Militia Roll of June 1, 1813, John P. Livingstone, weaver, age 37 b. Scotland and living in Little Judique with his wife Isabell b. 1780 d/o Angus "Pioneer" MacDonald and born in Eigg, Scotland; 1 son and 5 daughters.
20 acres were cleared. He had a horse, 2 horned cattle and 4 sheep.
The 1818 Census states that he had been on the Island for 15 years.
John had at least 2 brothers; Malcolm, who settled in Cape George and another brother Donald? who settled in P E I. Johns descendents were Catholic and Malcolm are mainly Protestant.

John P. son Malcolm b. 1803 married Flora Ann Cameron b. 1809, Scotland.

My closest match is to Roger Alexander Livingstone of Cape Breton and his descendent is John P. Livingstone1773.

Regards;

Roberta

[Livingstone_PEI]

Hi All

For those that have a thirst for PEI history and books relating to PEI history. Please have a look at this site. I just found it, but I knew it was in the works, but didn't know they made this much progress. Do some digging in this site because some of the features are a little hidden. The full collection of the Island Magazine is here and they are digitizing all of the Island history books in the library. There is other stuff too.
http://islandarchives.ca/
I didn't see very much Livingston information from what I looked at quickly.

Barry

[Roberta Ann]

Hi Barry;

Thanks for that. I found one William Lovingston on Lot 59 with James Davidson and William Creed.
These were settlers on lands in behalf of the Grantees.
Dated Charlottown July 21, 1768

Signed: Is. Deschamps

Regards;

Roberta

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Roberta,
One or both of the John Livingstons may have converted to Catholicism. In the case of John Livingston of Judique his wife's McDonald family were Roman Catholic but Mull Livingtons were generally not, so it is entirely possible he converted. Dr. St. Clair was also wondering about this possibility. Livingstons in Mull as far as I have been able to tell were in the 18th century predominately Presbyterian Church of Scotland or possibly Scottish Episcopalian. Regretably I dont think there are detailed records for the parishes within Mull such as Kilninian and Kilmore of Catholic highlanders so I cant be 100% certain of anything. Conversion would also help to explain why his brother pioneer Malcolm Livingston of the Cape George/Livingston Cove Livingston family was of a Presbyterian.

I am of course not altogether certain John and Malcolm were brothers or whether this part of a Cape Breton Livingston family folklore is neccessarily historically accurate. I think it has also been suggested that old Angus Livingston of Bras d'or Boularderie, Victoria County, Cape Breton was a brother of pioneer Malcolm Livingston. I am ultimately more comfortably with the family information we have garnished from the the amazing land petitions you, Jewel and Barry have located for the earliest Cape Breton and Nova Scotia settlement. I am trying to avoid speculating on the brother aspect and rather focus the identification of the principle pioneer family groups in Nova Scotia and PEI and throughout Canada. Who they were, where they came from and when, where they settled, who their children were. Others who are closely related to these families such as you, Jewel and Barry can then enhance this basic list with more detailed information on the individual families and subsequent generations if such information is available. I have been keeping a spread sheet with a basic summary of the Pioneer Livingstons of Canada including Nova Scotia and PEi that were focusing upon here. I also have made some effort to organize my scrawly notes and photocopied records if any into some sort of file folder system though alot of the pertinent information but not all on Canadian Livingstones that I have has at one time or another been posted on the forum.
It is interesting that you and Roger are a close match. My cousins closest match is a descendant of Donald and Mary Livingston of Morvern later Mull who settled at Nine Mile Creek, Lot 65, Queens County, PEI in 1806 with his sons and daughters. Our ancestor Miles Livingston b.1775 was also according to his 1812 Bowmore,Kilarrow Parish, Isle of Islay marriage record a native of Morvern according to the Presbyterian minister at the time at Bowmore Round Church so that might explain why another Livingston of Morvern origin is a significantly close match to my Cousin.
regards,

Donald



Donald

[Kyle MacLea]

One thing I envision for our new Society, Donald, is putting some of your extensive historical research into publication form. I'm thinking a small booklet (or a large one!) containing this information could be sold in the Clan Shop to supplement our Society funds--and provide an outlet for this great information, so it is never lost!

Kyle=

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Kyle,

I can probably put something like that together some time in the future, but for the moment what I have in mind is to share with you and the research committee the spreadsheet I have put together regarding pioneer Livingstons of Canada. I like it as constant work in progress however.The key thing is that what I like about my spreadsheet is that is a constant work in progress easily added to or correctable. One my hangups about publishing and why I have several family histories including Livingstons on my computer unpublished is that one way or another I always end up updating or corrrecting. There are one or two families I can say I have finished and a published work is ready to be produced, but the Livingstons still feels to me like a work in progress.

I can however show you and the committee the Canadian Pioneer Livingstone summary spreadsheet if you like. (I just made that up it does not really have a formal title as yet) I just like to dazzle you every once and while with my verbosity and attrocious spelling.

regards,

Donald

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Barry,

I will take a look at that. I recall that the Island register had some early passenger lists.

regards,

Donald

[Livingstone_PEI]

Hi Donald

Yes there are some early passenger lists.

Have a look at this article too. http://islandarchives.ca/fedora/reposit ... 208-15.pdf
There is some information about William Lovingston (Livingstone) in it. It was interesting, for I did not have anything on him before.

I wonder if he is connected to our John Livingston in Georgetown for 1803? We'll likely never know.

Barry