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Roberta Ann
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Re: Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research

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Hi Donald;

FYI more Highlanders settled in the Maritimes than in any other part of what is now called Canada.

Regards;

Roberta
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Hi Roberta,

I have seen two plausible death dates for John Livingston husband of Old Kate 1860 and 1855. Based on the 1871 Census I am more inclined to think he died sometime between 1855 which was the year his last child was born and 1861. We also know from the 1861 Census that old Kate is a widow by the 1860/1861 Census. His two death dates seem likely to have been estimates based upon this information. It is believed that his father John Livingston Sr. died abt. 1840 and was buried in Mabou Cemetery but I dont believe anyone has actually located a cemetery marker.

regards,

Donald
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HI Roberta,

Yes very much so. Lots and Lots of Scots. My father is half Scottish and my mother is descended from an old Scottish family so I have alot of respect for the Scots.

regards,

Donald
Jewel
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Hi Barry,

Found a marriage for one of James and Mary J. Livingston in Woburn Mass.

Sept. 30, 1896

John H. Livingston b. P.E.I. age 28, parents James Livingston and Mary Jane Grassie ? (hard to read)

Wife: Elizabeth Jackson, b. Woburn, Mass. age 24.

Jewel.
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Hi Roberta and Jewel,

Ok John Livingston of Little Judique has been on the Island for 15 years acccordiing to the 1818 census. That gives us probably an 1803 date for I assume being on Cape Breton Island. There is an 1818 land transaction of 400 acres of land at Judique but did he not live at Judique or Little Judique before 1818. One bio has it that he lived at Cape George in 1810 and in Judique in 1818. I wonder if land records can sort out when he first arrived at Judique or Little Judique and when he first arrived at Cape George. I think there is also a notion that he arrived first at Cape George ANtigonish County as early as the 1790`s perhaps this is someone tying in Malcolm Livingstons arrival with John`s so I am not sure about that. In any event Malcolm did not settle in the 1790`s at Cape George but first in Pictou County and then in the 1800`s at Cape George in Antigonish County. Anyways 1803 is the earliest date from the census records I can see. As I think his son Malcolm was listed as being born in Nova Scotia or Canada in the 1871 Census I think John can be proven to be in Canada prior to 1810.

regards,

Donald
Jewel
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Re: Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research

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Hello Everyone,
Couldn't remember if I had posted this information from cemetery records on C.B.G.H.A.

"MABOU, HILLSBOROUGH PIONEER CEMETERY"

These 6 names were all on one stone.

Pioneer, John Livingstone & (wife)Mary Campbell (no dates)
Son Duncan Livingstone (no dates)
John Jr. 1800-1854 & his wife Catherine 1808-1912
Daughter of above, Annie 1855-1920

Below names are seperate stones:

Catherine Adams, died. July 22, 1868, 45 years old( daughter of Dougal Livingstone of Cape Geroge)

Mary Livingston 1843-1921

Jewel
Roberta Ann
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Hi Donald;

Are we doing an accurate sumation of the arrival and settlement of John Livingstone and Mary Catherine Campbell. Or John 1773 and Isabel McDonald of Eigg.

Would it help to know if some of John and Mary Catherine's children were born in Scotland. When did they arrive. What boat were they on. Did they land in Pictou. I don't believe that I have any of that. I'll have to go through my 'pile'.

I know there is info in the History of Inverness and the History of Antigonish. Pictou County information could be had through the Cape Breton Society of which Jewel is a member.

Anyway, I am getting that fuzzy feeling in my head now; so I'll have a look, as soon as I can.

Regards;

Roberta
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Hi Jewel,

Unfortunately the stone at Mabou cemetery for JOhn Livingston is not likely the original grave stone for original Mabou pioneers but probably created years later. My sense is that it was erected years after John's death perhaps at the time of old Kates death in 1912. I do think the date for John the younger of 1800-1854 may also be an estimate although it sounds reasonably close. It seems certain from the family records that he died sometime between 1854 and 1860 with the last child born in 1855 and he no longer living by the time of the 1860/1861 Census. My understanding is that there is no original stone information for John Livingston and his wife and their son John Livingston Jr. husband of old Kate. THerefore it was just added years later. My research based on information from the neighbouring Whycocomagh Livingston records is that the original pioneer family at Mabou was a John Livingston and Catharine Campbell that left Killian and Kilmore Parish in the year 1821 for Nova Scotia with sons John, Donald, Alexander and Colin Livingston and some daughters. All but Donald I have been able to account for and he may have died before the family left for Nova Scotia. THe parish records of this family survive and even more convincing the WhycocomaghLivingston family near Mabou had in its possession a document which records officials in Mull noting that John Livingston and Catharine Campbell are off to Nova Scotia in the year 1821 the same year the last child of a John Livingston and Catharine Campbell was baptised in Kilninian and Kilmore. Unfortunately these facts have not been published.

regards,

Donald
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Hi Roberta,

No I was talking about John Livingston and Isabel McDonald. The 1818 Census says that he has been on the island for 15 years but that could just mean Cape Breton rather than Nova Scotia. I have gone with 1803 because of that info. I wonder if we have any proof of where he was located in 1803. ONe of the bios suggests he was not at Judique until 1818 which I dont know about. So that is my confusion. There is also an assumption that he was at Cape George in the 1790's and I am not certain whether or not he arrived around the same time as Malcolm Livingston who settled first at Pictou County and later at neighbouring Cape George.

regards,

Donald
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Hi Maryann,

Your ancestor if I understood you correctly was Duncan Livingston son of John 1800 (1808) -1854? and his wife Catharine 1808-1912 of Livingstone Mountain, Mull River (SE Mabou) Inverness County, Cape Breton. This Mabou cemetery is where Duncan's parents Catharine (old kate), her husband John and his parents John Livingston 1776-1840 and his wife (Mary) Catharine Campbell are likely buried. Most of the published information states John Livingston and Mary Campbell but there is as I have stated unpublished information suggesting that the original Mabou Livingston were John Livingston and Catharine Campbell of Kilninian and Kimore Parish, Mull, Scotland who left their parish in 1821 settled in Nova Scotia and then in 1824 took up settlement at Mull River, Mabou, Inverness County, Cape Breton. Your ancestor as discussed some months ago was their grandson Duncand son of their son John Livingston Jr. and his wife Catharine Livingsston. He was a miner in the New Glasgow area wasnt he? We discussed he and his wife a few months ago I believe. Do you currently have any Livingston relatives?

regards,

Donald
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