Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research

[Livingstone_PEI]

Hi All

Well you sure can't not check here for an extra day.....wow alot going on.

Ok a few thoughts and my two cents worth.

The Angus Livingston in Dundas, Lot 55, Prince Edward Island, was my GGreat grandfather. His wife was Catherine Kelly of Uigg, PEI. Catherine had a sister Effie who was married to a John Livingston and she is buried not far far from me. I'm not sure who the John Livingston was. I do not have a burial site for Angus and Catherine. Angus died March 5th, 1934.

The discussion about the pioneer John and Catherine's headstone. One option we did not think of is that they may have had additional children after they arrived in NS, so the headstone could be correct.

The discussion about John Livingston and Elizabeth McDonald. I wonder if it is possible the Island referred to in the discussion could be PEI and that is the Georgetown PEI John from 1803? I suspect there may be a relationship between the arrival of the Oughton, Selkirk Settlers too. The clue is the McDonald which is a common name in the Georgetown area. What other information do we have regarding this family? I can compare it to te other Livingston's in the area in later years, like a Joseph, and Alexander. I have a Sarah Livingston, a widow, in that area later on too. She was Joseph's grandmother. In later years Joseph Livingston was married to a Mary McDonald in the same area of PEI.

Barry

[Roberta Ann]

Hi Barry and Donald;

Lot 55 Census 1891, Prince Edward Island

John--------55
Mary-------22
Angus------41
Colin-------13
Flora-------21
Effie-------16
Maggie----46
Alex--------0 Roman Catholic
Malcolm----7
Ellen--------1 Roman Catholic
Sarah Ann--5
Christina---18
Catherine---10
Catherine ---44
Kate Ann------3 Roman Catholic
John Colin----11
John Duncan---4
Catherine------43 Roman Catholic
John James----4 Roman Catholic
Archibald N.----9
Marshall------39 Roman Catholic


Regards;

Roberta

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Barry,

I dont have a problem with the information of the Mabou stone just the Mary Livingston info. We can verify the names of the families in the area for the most part from the census records if there are any descrepancies which I think we have. If people have been following all the postings in this section I think they can a good sense of this. There are not any additional family members on the old stone that I am not familiar with or who were children of John and Catharine born after 1821. John Livingston Jr. b.1800 or 1808 died 1854 was actually the eldest son of the John Livingston Sr. family so we knew about him. He and old Kate (1808-1912) are on the stone.

The issue is not what province John Livingston b.1773 settled in . We know that he made his home in Judique and his son Malcolm lived at neighbouring Port Hood. I agree with the published accounts that John settled in the Judique/Port Hood area of Inverness County and married Isabella MacDonald whose MacDonalds settled in the Judique area. We dont where John was before 1803. He states as Roberta has told us in the records that he was in Nova Scotia since 1803. I have no idea where he was before 1803 though there may be conflicting information that he was in Nova Scotia as early as the 1790's. My impression though from the records I have seen and that Roberta and Jewel have found that he arrived in the early 1800's about 1803. As i said we are trying to sort out the John Livingston conflicting information as it pertains to his settlement in Cape Breton. I am not certain I would want to venture into speculation regarding a PEI connection that we so far have no information of. I have a huge headache with John's info regarding Judique, Cape Breton settlement dates. If I can sort that out I will be doing well. As challenging as that will be to try to connect John Livingston of Judique with the John Livingston of Georgetown, PEI I would assume would be almost impossible given what information we have. I think we have discussed this before and no evidence was found linking them.

regards,

Donald

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Roberta,

Thanks for the info on Lot 55. That is for Lot 55 Kings County, PEI Livingstons I assume.
You might want to put in Lot 55 Kings County,PEI for those who dont know which province that is for using the edit feature.

regards,

Donald

[Canadian Livingstone]

HI Roberta,

Oh no dont retype the petitions. I did not intend for you to do that. I just thought we could look a them again and try to sort this Judique thing out but I think I am going with with what I first saw when started on John Livingston and that is that he settled at Judique area around 1803. He married Isabel MacDonald and there is information on her family. There is whole lot of McDonalds in that area in the 1800's and there is history information on the Macdonalds that settled in that area.

regards,

Donald

[Roberta Ann]

Hi Donald;

Thanks for that. I have 120 Livingstone recruits and 97 Livingston recuits WW1 to post and I want to do this. There is so much information in these papers.

My concern now is that the McDonalds and others have John P.Livingston born 1773; yet, wouldn't he have to produce his Birth Certificate for the Militia. According to his Militia information, he was born in 1776.

Regards;

Roberta

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Roberta,

Likely John did not have a birth certificate but yes that is yet another challenge to sort out 1773 or 1776 for a birth date for John Livingston of Little Judique. Perhaps if we stated birth date 1773 or 1776 that would keep everyone happy. I dont imagine those early folks from Mull or Fort William in Scotland carried birth records or copies of the parish records with them. The entries remained in some dusty old parish book probably back in Scotland. I dont know that John would have a copy of anything regarding his birth from the Church or his parents, but something might have written down somewhere by the family, otherwise in those early times many people would not be certain of their birthdate. Actually I think that may have occured more often than you think in those times. Perhaps the best one might expect would be a family bible page with a birth or baptism entry hand written into it by a family member.

How I would get around that birth problem is just to say John Livingston of Fort William, family possibly of Mull origin, born either abt. 1773 or 1776 arrived at the Judique/Port Hood area of Inverness County, Cape Breton about 1803. He married Isabella McDonald daughter of etc, a family in the area. And then list the children of John and Isabella and their wifes and husbands as far we know them. There was Angus who died in youth and Malcolm born 1803 who married Flora Cameron. I have information on the others which I think we have discussed but I may have added some more info recently I will check my notes. Interestingly all the daughters except for one I think married a local McDonald. One married a MacIsaac. LOt of McDonalds in the area.

regards,

Donald

[Roberta Ann]

Hi Donald;

I went through my 'pile' and I found, what you probably all ready know, births - Kilnian.

Angus Levingston Married Christian Cameron February 1, 1773. All their children were born at Sorne Parish, Mull.

John --Dec. 26, 1773
Hugh - Oct. 15, 1776
Lauchlan --Jan. 2, 1779
Duncan --July 6, 1762---------died young, my note, because another Duncan was named later.
Mary ----Oct. 10, 1784
Duncan----Jan 17, 1787


Regards;

Roberta

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Roberta,

Do you remember which postings you did recently had a death death for ALlan and John Livingstone sons of Malcolm Livingston of Cape George and Livingstone Cove. I meant to copy that info and now I cant seem to remember which postings it was in. It a was a week or two ago you submitted it. It mentioned most interestingly that John and Allan sons of pioneer Malcolm Livingston of Cape George, Antigonish County 1790's were both born at Ardgour Parish which right across from Ballachulish. I would suppose then that Malcolm lived in Ardgour Parish at least at the time when they were born. It will be interesting when we get a DNA person who is a descendant of one of Malcolms sons if they are closely matched to some of the neighbouring Ballachulish Argyllshire Livingstons we have tested.

regards.

Donald

[Roberta Ann]

Hi Donald;

The information re: John Livingstone, of the British Naval Dockyard; Halifax, was posted Dec. 14, 2009 under the topic---John Livingstone, Etcetras.

Donald, did you ask me about Mary Catherine and John Livingstone? Interesting that Duffus and John both married a Mary Campbell.

Regards;

Roberta