Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research

[Jewel]

Hello Donald,

Since you keep track of many of the Livingstone pioneers in P.E.I. and Nova Scotia I thought you might be able to tell me who this one is that I came across.

Parents: Duncan Livingstone & Catharine Livingston

children: Flora b. Dec. 8,1807, bapt. on Dec. 12, 1807 at St. Pauls anglican church, Charlottetown

Catharine: b. Dec. 15, 1811, bapt. Jan.5, 1812, St. Pauls Anglican church,Charlottetown

Donald: b. May 26, 1818, bapt. June 30,1818, birth on Lot 65 P.E.I.

Dugald: b. June 28,1820, bapt. July 19,1820, St. Pauls Anglican church, Charlottetown

Jewel

[Roberta Ann]

Hi Jewel;

These are descendents of Donald and Mary Livingston of Clyde River.

Duncan son of Donald and Mary was b. Morvern 1772/73 and died Nine Mile Creek, Lot 65 c. 1841.

Catherine d. June 22, 1875 at Argus age 94 at the home of son-in-law John McKinnon and was buried at Canoe Cove, Lot 65. She was the Wife of Duncan Livingstone.

You can find all this --The Livingston's of Clyde River--

Regards;

Roberta

[Jewel]

Hi Roberta,

Thank you for that information. I had looked at that Clyde River information and then I think I got confused and mixed up Duncan with his father Donald who was married to a Mary.

So we have another Livingston marrying a Livingstone.

Jewe;

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Jewel,

Yup.
Duncan Livingston (1772-1841) who was married to the Catharine you are referring to was the eldest son of PEI livingston pioneers Donald and Mary Livingston who settled at Lot 65, Queens County, PEI in the year 1806. Donald his wife, his sons and their wives including son Duncan Livingston arrived aboard the vessel "Rambler" in 1806. A highly detailed passenger list survived and has been copied on-line. I dont have info on Catharine's maiden name. This family is said to have originated at Morvern was were living at Mull before they left for PEI. A direct descendant of Donald and Mary Livingston is the closest 67 marker match yet to my Livingston cousin perhaps because of families apparent Morvern Parish origins.

regards,

Donald

[Livingstone_PEI]

Hi Jewel

That is a good find finding Minnie, who was married to Benjamin Davey. Her real name is Mary, and she and Benjamin were living in Murray Harbour at the time of her brother's death according to his obituary. Very good....I now know that John's wife Margaret was a McEachern. I didn't know that before. Another interesting note is that my mother's first name is Minnie, but she goes by her second name. She was likely named after her father's first cousin. This was the John that lived in Forest Hill and he is buried in Dundas United Church Cemetery with his son Colin who died at the age of 31, 1909, only 1.5 years after his father's death.

And I see Roberta answered your question about the Livingston's baptised at the Charlottetown Anglican Church. Most of the early baptisms and births on PEI were from the lot 65 area. That is why their was some interest with the John Livingston I found living in Georgetown, PEI in 1803. This was before the lot 65 Livingston's arrived. Two other John Livingstons that I cannot find a trace is a John Livingston that was married to Effie Kelly.....she was the sister of my GGrandmother, who was married to Angus. Effie died at an early age.

Another note about old Kate and John is that their two oldest children were born on PEI in 1841 and 1844, so we know they lived on PEI befor they moved to NS, unless there is another explanation. This is a finding of Dr. St. Clair's research. I just need to find out where they lived and what community they were born in.

Barry

[Jewel]

Hello Barry,

Well I want to tell you that I went back and double checked the marriage of Minnie Livingston and Benjamin Davey . Before you enter your information in regards to Minnie Livingston's parents I think you shuold take a look at this marriage record. I know this sounds strange but when I found it, the parents were listed as Margaret McEachern and John Livingston. Then when I went back to double check and took a closer look at the actual list of marriages for Massachusettes it is quit difficult to read. Now I can't tell if her maiden name was Mc Eachern or Mclean. So I would suggest that you take a look for yourself. I found it on the Family search pilot site listed under Massachusettes marriages 1841-1915. http://pilot.familysearch.org/

I like to play around when I do my searches, so what I did was put in the name Livingston and then click on the birth records and for the place of birth I type in Prince Edward Island,Canada. That way anyone by the name of Livingston who was born in Prince Edward Island will come up for any area.

Sorry about this Barry, maybe my eyes were playing tricks on me but I know I Mceachern the first time I looked, but the record is there for you to see for yourself. Let me know how you see it.

Jewel

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Barry,

That may be based upon the families recollections but the census records do not indicate that. That source states that the children of John and old kate were all born in Nova Scotia including Mary and Duncan. I am sure that Dr. St. Clair utilized the Census records in his research.While Duncan might not be in the 1881 Census Mary may be if you want to verify that. Given that old Kate was born in PEI that might be possible that John and Old Kate lived for a time in PEi perhaps even married in PEI but this view that the eldest children were born in PEI confllicts with the census unless I copied it wrong which might be a possibillity. Can recheck and look for old Kates daughter Mary in the 1881 census to check what province it says she is born in. 1881 indicates she was born in Nova Scotia.
The other problem is that birth dates of some of the children of John Liivngston jr. and old Kate arent precisely clear to me. Mary in particular was born in 1844 in one place and something else someplace else. I844 is derived from the 1871 Census. The 1881 Census suggests a birthdate of about 1849 and the 1901 lists a birthdate of 1850.

regards,

Donald

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Roberta,

Thank-you for that info on Duncan Livingstons widow Catharine of PEI. From that info we can determine and approximate birth date. I should check and see what info i have on Donald and Mary Livingston and family of Lot 65, Queens County, PEI. I have seen Nine Mile Creek and Charlotte Township mention in regards to this family and a cemetery at Canoe Creek or something like that.

Thanks again,

Donald

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Roberta,

You were asking about the HMS Royal George that Angus Livingston served on in the 1790's or early 1800's. As I suspected there was more than one; infact there were Nine British vessels with that name from the 1700's to 1911 according to Wikipedia. I think I can narrow the list down a bit. There are only two of the Nine listed cover the period when Angus could have been in the Navy. One Royal George a 100 gun warship was launched in 1788 and broken up in 1822. The second one a much smaller 20 gun warship was actually built in Canada at Kingston Naval yards and launched in 1809. It particpated in the Great Lakes Campaign during the War of 1812 and became the HMS Niagara in 1814. Now as Angus Livingston's information states that he was in the Navy during the Napoleonic War I would assume he was not a veteran of the War of 1812 or served in the Navy in Canada. If so then that leaves us with only the Royal George that possibly he could served on would the HMS George that built in 1888 and and probably in use up to the early 1800's. So if someone ever wanted more info perhaps from the British Navy archives or from the British Archives they would ask about Royal Navy Warship Royal George from about 1788.

regards,

Donald

[Roberta Ann]

Hi Donald;

Geez, Donald, now I am feeling really inadequate because I only found one which was launched in September 1827. I read Wikipedia and this was the only one that I could find. But, I believe you when you say there were more. Shoot.

Regards;

Roberta