Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research

[Roberta Ann]

Hi, again, Barry;

I found this: New Vessel Registrations, 1884, Port of Charlottetown.

1884 September 18 - Schooner Noahs Ark, built at Charlottetown, P E I., 13 tons; owned by Malcolm Livingston, Charlottetown.

A sum of 25 pounds to Malcolm Livingston to re-imburse him, in full, of all demands; for building a Block or Wharf at Minchins Point.

The Acts of the General Assembly of P. E. I.

Regards;

Roberta

[Livingstone_PEI]

Hi Roberta

The Donald Livingston of Murray River was married in the year 1841 to Ann Wheeler. If he was married when he was around 20 years old, that would have him being born around 1820, if he married at 20 years of age, and the Donald Livingstone from Whycocomagh was baptised in I believe 1812 in Scotland. Was it the same Donald Livingston.....that is the question. This would explain why my Colin came to PEI, a younger brother of Donald. According to newspapers I have read, 1865 was the year that the colonial government assisted settlers in the purchase of land. This made land more attractive on PEI too.

The Malcolm Livingston was from lot 53 and his mother was Sarah Livingston. Malcolm was a ships captain. Sarah also had a grandson Joseph in lot 53 too. Joseph's family, a large family, is somewhat of a mystery. I cannot find where all of them went. Malcolm Livingston and his wife Sarah also lived for a time in Salem, Massachusetts. You can find the record in the US census. I have found the obituary in the archives, where Malcolm's daughter died around the age of two. I also found in the archives where he eventually left PEI for good, to go "overseas", and he left a lawyer in charge of his affairs on PEI giving the lawyer power of attorney. Here is a list of Malcolm's nephew, Joseph's family in the 1881 census:

1. Livingstone, Alexander 20 Prince Edward Island Kings Lot 53
2. Livingstone, Angus 12 Prince Edward Island Kings Lot 53
3. Livingstone, Catherine 22 Prince Edward Island Kings Lot 53
4. Livingstone, Daniel J. 10 Prince Edward Island Kings Lot 53
5. Livingstone, David 6 Prince Edward Island Kings Lot 53
6. Livingstone, James E. 14 Prince Edward Island Kings Lot 53
7. Livingstone, John 26 Prince Edward Island Kings Lot 53
8. Livingstone, Joseph 48 Prince Edward Island Kings Lot 53
9. Livingstone, Malcolm 18 Prince Edward Island Kings Lot 53
10. Livingstone, Margaret J. 6 Prince Edward Island Kings Lot 53
11. Livingstone, Mary 46 Prince Edward Island Kings Lot 53
12. Livingstone, Mary M. 8 Prince Edward Island Kings Lot 53
13. Livingstone, Michal J. 1 Prince Edward Island Kings Lot 53
14. Livingstone, Samuel 16 Prince Edward Island Kings Lot 53
15. Livingstone, Sarah A. 24 Prince Edward Island Kings Lot 53

I would sure like to know where the majority of this family moved to. In the 1911 census it is showing only Mary and her son Malcolm living in lot 53, and the rest of the family are gone elsewhere. Mary's maiden name was MacDonald and she was Catholic and Joseph was protestant. I do not know who Joseph's mother and father are for sure.

I have a theory that will never be proven, but what if John Livingston's brothers, Alexander, Donald, and Colin all moved to PEI at one time or another. The dates pretty much match their births. John was the oldest brother, so he stayed in Cape Breton, and maybe Alex of lot 54 moved back to Cape Breton in later years and married Ann from PEI. Donald moved to the Murray River area and that is how Donald's brother John married somone from PEI too. There were other Livingstone's in the Murray River area, and they were from Colonsay, not from Mull.

I'm working a night shift and it is 3am now. Maybe not as coherent as I should be, but hopefully everyone can see the connections here.

Barry

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Barry,

It would be nearly impossible I reckon to link the Mull RIver/Whycocomagh Livingstons to being in PEI prior to the 1860's. The only definite PEI linkage with these families is the census data which indicates that Old Kate married to John Livingston Jr. and her sister Annie married to ALexander Livingston of Whycocomagh were born in Prince Edward island. The piece of info regarding these two sisters from Dr. St. Clair is that these two sisters may be connected to the old PEI Livingston family of Donald and Mary Livingston of Lot 65, Queens County, PEI. As far as the John Livingston family of Mull River, Mabour and Alexander and your ancestor Collin that we have documented evidence lived at Whycocomagh, a PEI family connection is difficult to document. From your research we now know when in the 1860's your Colin and family left Cape Breton for PEI but establishing an earlier PEI family link to John, Alexander and Colin is quite difficult I should think. I am not saying that there isnt possibly one but the only one that I have seen evidence of is regarding Old Kate and her sister. I am not trying to discourage you, but I think it seems entirely likely that your roots our in Inverness County, Cape Breton with the families then settled at Whycocomagh and neighbouring Mull River/Mabou. Your ancestor Colin and his family settled in PEI in the early 1860's. That you have tangible evidence of. I doubt you will find any documented evidence that any of others at Mabou or Whycocomagh settled in PEI though it is not clear to me what happened to Alexander Livingston of Whycocomagh and his wife Anne. I have been meaning to ask Dr. St. Clair about where they died and were buried.

If I am correct about Colin being the son of John Livingston and Catharine Campbell of Penmore Mull and I am not 100% certain of it by any means then there might have been another son or sons of John Livingstone and Catharine Campbell arrive with them in Inverness County, Cape Breton in the 1820's but my impression is that some of their children died before 1821 and from the emigration letter from Mull which was for many years in the possession of the Alexander Livingston of Whycocomagh family according to Dr. St. Clair. From that I concluded that some or all of the other sons beyond John, Alexander and Colin may have died before 1821. But there might have been one other I think that came with the family to Inverness County in the 1820's. Of course the alternative research of the Mull family does not even mention John Livingston Sr. having baptised children with the names Alexander or Colin. I thought that didnt make sense so I went with the other family of John Livingston and Catharine Campbell from Penmore Mull in Killian and Kilmore Parish whose baptismal records abprubtly finished in the year 1821. The same year that Mull officials stated that a John Livingston and Catharine Campbell with several children were leaving Mull for the port of Pictou, Nova Scotia. What was even more interesting to me was that Dr. St. Clair said he knew the original copy of this emigration letter had been in personal possession of none other than Alexander Livingston of Whycocmagh's family. So the baptismal records of John Livingston and Catharine Campbell ending right at the end of 1821, the Emigration letter of the Whyccomagh famiy stating a John Livingston and Catharine campbell family left Mull in 1821 made me suspect the the Penmore Mull lfamily that were listed in the Mull Parish records at Penmore and whom sure enought had a son John, Alexander and Colin were your family. The possibility of me being wrong is always a possiblitty but if so it would have a been an incredible coincidence that this was not your family from Mull I had found. One however always takes the risk of being wrong.

regards,

Donald

regards,

Donald

[Roberta Ann]

Hi Donald;

Bears repeating; I believe!

1818 Cape Breton Census - District of Port Hood

John Livingston age 45 - Time on the Island 15 years - born Scotland - Little Judique - Weaver - Married - 6 Children

This Census would allow this John to have been in Cape Breton since 1803. I wonder if this is the John who was in PEI, I believe Lot 30, in 1803 and then moved over to Cape Breton. What do you think?

Regards;

Roberta

[Roberta Ann]

Hi Barry;

Would you check the newspaper The Examiner, September 1st 1860 and maybe determine with whom this is dedicated - Donald Livingston.

Donald Livingston - IN MEMORIAM -

Companion in my early days,
with whom , in heart allied
I walked in friendship's happy rays
round Malpeque's circuit wide
and still through many a lovely scene
With thee will fancy stray
Where Darnley's fields and groves of green
Remembered charms display

Sweet rural charms! the Kirk, the bridge
the Smithy and the Mill
The ----groves - the sandy ridge

the pebbled beach - the Oceans wall
to playful Fancy show
As fresh as when we viewed them all
some twenty years ago

[Roberta Ann]

Aye! often when the school was o'er
Together we would roam
Along New London's cliffy shore
The seagulls windy home
There listen to the music loud
of Ocean's organ grand

Ah! little thought we then of time
As sun returning, shone___
That ardent youth and manhood's prime
would both be quickly gone!
Rememberance weep, alas in vain
Our Sorrow's emblems shed!
They can't restore the dead

No more, in bonds of friendship true,
like brothers, hand in hand
together shall we rove to view
the sky, the sea, the land!
For he who shared my youthful joys
Cut-off in manhood's bloom
In yonder churchyard sleeping lies,
Within his narrow tomb!

Alas! the thought my ----rends
And sorrow's tears must flow;
Death strikes our nearest, dearest friends
When least we fear the blow
But faithful Memory long retains
Each fondly cherish'd name
and Livingston's while life remains
The pensive tear shall claim

Charlottetown, September 1, 1860

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Roberta,

The pioneer John Livingston that lived with his wife Isabella McDonald at Judique as far I know remained in the Judique/Port Hood area though some of their children or grandchildren could have gone to PEI perhaps. The Livingstons and McDonalds were Roman Catholic according to Dr. St. Clair though Dr. St. Clair was wondering if perhaps John early on converted to his wife's faith and may have born a Presbyterian. They I believe died at Port Hood or Judique. They had a son Malcolm born in the early 1800's who lived at Port Hood or Judique. I dont know that any of the original Cape Breton families we have discussed went to PEI with the exception of Barry's ancestor Colin Livingston who Whycocomagh, Inverness County, Cape Breton in the early 1860's and settled somewhere around Forest Hill, Kings County, PEI. Some children of the pioneer Cape Breton families seem to have gone to Massachusetts but I dont know of any that went to PEI or at least the original pioneer settlers of Cape Breton. It is at least assumed that they all died in Cape Breton though for the old pioneers there probably arent any cemetery records, but what there is seems to indicate the original Livingston pioneers of Cape Breton stayed in Cape Breton though that may not be the case for their children or grandchildren.

regards,

Donald

[Jewel]

Hi Roberta,

I don't recall where I obtained this memorial to Donald Livingston, but I can give you a little backround information.

It was written by a John Lepage who was a dear friend of Donald Livingston. It states that Donald Livingston was a native of P.E.I. The friendship was formed in P.E.I. in 1842. Donald died at his fathers home in 1858 on P.E.I. Donald was a teacher and left the Island in January of 1847 to further his teaching career, in New Brunswick. He is described as having a sensitive and bashful retiring disposition. His health was failing which caused him to return to his native land in the Autum of 1857 with hopes of improveing his health. He was interred with masonic honors in the churchyard near Charlottetown. Donald Livingston died in the winter of 1858. Unfortunately no age was given.


Jewel

[Roberta Ann]

Hi Jewel;

Thanks for that. I didn't transcribe all of the verses because the ink was so smudged. I wonder who his parents were. I am hopeing Barry can find out who they were; furthering our research about PEI Livingston/es.
I found others who died in Michigan. I am trying to find where they originated before PEI and before going to Michigan. Yes, this Donald sounds like a really nice guy/teacher.

Regards;

Roberta

[Livingstone_PEI]

Hi All

Yes I have read the enclosed memoriam in the Examiner microfilm at the archives and there wasn't anymore information than what Jewel reported. I did do some searching on our Donald's and Allan's in the archives too, but did not find anything that would help. I'm going to have to go through all of the wills and land tranfers again, but didn't have the time the last time I was there. I plan on getting back to the archives, but not sure when. I'm off to the Canadian Curling Championships in Halifax tomorrow. I am hoping I will have a moment to go to their archives, but just not sure if I can sneak away for awhile. We will be coming home a week from Monday. I'm hoping they will have a family file at the NS archives I can go through.

Barry