Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research

[sandylivingston]

Hi Maryanne;

Is this John Hugh Livingstone Jr.s son and did John Hugh marry Anna Scott?

Alexander Duncan Livingstone - Miner-born Jan. 9, 1907 in Springhill, N.S.

An affidavit to establish his birth was written by Mrs. Jessie Ferguson - cousin.

Roberta

alexander duncan was my father, John Hughie my grandfather, should say Margaret "Anne" Scott

[sandylivingston]

Hello Donald;

John Hugh Livingstone born July 29, 1874.

father; Duncan Livingstone-Miner-Vale Colliery. Mother Mary McDonald, Vale Colliery. Duncan and Mary were married May 10, 1874 at Vale Colliery. Informant, Hugh Livingstone.

Marriage is registered at New Glascow.

Regards:

Roberta

Hi Roberta,
Thanks for this information. It is great for MaryAnn that this info was available.

regards,

Donald

john Hugh was born on 27 June and baptized on 13 november.1874 i have the certificate in front of me.

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Sandy,

We appreciate you reviewing all the previous info that we located on your family and providing us with a few more details. Refreshed my memory I must say and was quite informative. I think this process has been helpful and has given me a greater sense of how you fit into this Nova Scotia Livingston ancestral line. Thanks for this. If you would like to know which Scottish Livingston families you are related to including that of Dr. David Livingstone and the Clan Chief's family line I would encourage you to consider participating in our Maclea Livingstone DNA Project. A number of Scottish Livingstons of Cape Breton and PEI origin have already been tested and we hoping to bring more into this genealogy DNA research project. Kyle Maclea our North American Clan Commissioner who is an administrator of the project along with Andrew Lancaster and they can provide you with more details regarding the testing and the fee if you are interested. I think there are over 100 Livingstons and other connected families tested to date. A number of the highland clans are participating in DNA testing to determine which families worldwide are somehow related and to help identify family lines with in the Clan.

So just to sumarize my understanding is that your ancestor John Livingston Sr. and his wife Catharine Campbell sometimes referred to as Mary Campbell from Kilninian and Kilmore Parish in Northern Mull, Argyll, Scotland left Mull in the year 1821 for Nova Scotia and by 1824 apparently with a Campbell family from Mull had settled at Mull River, Inverness County, Cape Breton. This being the case they should not be confused with earlier Livingston families that settled in the 1803/1806 period in PEI. John Livingston Sr. died about 1840 I understand and is likely buried in an old cemetery in the Mull RIver area but there no stone or official record of it. He was likely born in the 1770's or 1780's in Mull Scotland but I dont think anyone has any certainty as to actual date.

Their son John Livingston Jr. born about 1800 or 1808 according to my research in Penmore, Kilninian Parish Mull married Catharine (Old Kate) who was herself a Livingston by birth born in Prince Edward Island. I dont have a marriage date for them. They had several children including your ancestor Duncan born abt. 1841. The family of John Livingston Jr. and Old Kate had a farm at Livingston Mountain, Mull RIver , Inverness County, Cape Breton which I am told was also known as S.E. Mabou. Dr. St. Clair is a local historian in the area who has researched this Livingston family for more than 50 yrs and is related to OLD Kate. His mother attended her wake in 1912 he told me. Hugh the eldest child of John Jr. and Old Kate was born abt. 1856 or something like that and inherited the farm after his mother died. Dr. St. Clair remembers Old Kate's son Hugh who off the top of my head I think died in the 1940's. I am not precisely certain when Old Kate's husband died. There are a couple of estimates out there. Safe to say that he died sometime after Hugh's birth so say between 1855 and 1861. By the time of the 1861 Nova Scotia Census Catharine Livingston is listed as the householder her husband presumingly deceased by this point in time.

Duncan was one of the older children of John Jr. and Old Kate born abt. 1841. There is an 1871 Nova Scotia Census which fortunatley includes your ancestor Catharine Livingston (Old Kate) a widower and her children in Inverness County, Cape Breton including Duncan just before he left for the Vale Colliery mining community in Pictou, Nova Scotia. As this mine with housing was established in the early 1870's it would seem apparent that the establishment of this new mining community was the impetus for your ancestor Duncan leaving the farm at Livingston Mountain, Mull RIver/S.E. Mabou, Inverness County, Cape Breton.

I have no idea what happened to Duncan. Sorry that we have been unable to shed any light on what happened to him. I was wondering if there was death record for him in Nova Scotia but there may not be. Not all deaths were registered particulary if he died in the 1870's. The other scenario is that he left his wife and child, lost touch with his family in which case it is possible that he died elsewhere years later and no one in the family was informed. IN any event I have no idea what the actual situation was. You have some family information on John Hugh which certainly is helpful.

regards,

Donald

[sandylivingston]

hi!
could this be John Sr ?
13 Apr. 1777, son John Livingstone bap.Kilninian & Kilmore, Argyll, Scotland (res. Letermore)
this John is the son of a Neil Livingston and Mary Morrison
http://www.livingstonesofmorvern.org.uk ... e1746.html

thanks,
sandy

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Sandy,

Looking at John Livingstons born or baptised in the 1770's in Kilninian and Kilmore Parish, Mull that might be your John Livingston Sr we have two that lived at Sorne and one at Lettermore. The one at Lettermore was born or baptised around 1777 and is the Uncle of Dr. David Livingstone. The other two were baptised in 1771 and 1773. I dont know if any these are your ancestor. And we dont know that Dr. David Livingstone's Uncle settled in Cape Breton. All we really know for certain is that the family stated that he served in the Napoleonic Wars. That being the case then he might have considered settling in Canada after 1815. Interestly we know that another Napoleonic War vet Angus Livingston settled in Cape Breton in 1819 so it possible though not proven that Dr. Livingstone's Uncle John if he survived the Napoleonic War left Scotland for Nova Scotia in 1821. The time is about right I just dont know whether or not his Uncle John survived the War. I know that his Uncle Charles died and possibly one or two others. I am not however entirely convinced that all his Uncles were killed in the Napoleonic War. There is no really clear information except that his Uncle Charles died while serving in the British Navy. I had heard others died in the war but I am not sure that is correct.

As we have had a direct descendant of Dr. Livingstone's brother John Livingstone who came to Ontario Canada in the 1840's tested in our Maclea Livingstone DNA genealogy project, you might consider being tested as one sure way to prove 100% whether you are kin to Dr. David Livingstone. Dr. Livingstone's great nephew whom we had tested would share the similar DNA to you if you were infact a descendant of Dr. Livingstone's Uncle John Livingston born at Lettermore in 1777 or thereabouts.And this way you can also determine through scientific testing whether or not your ancestor John Livingston Sr. of Mull River, INverness County, Cape Breton was Dr. Livingstone's Uncle. Anyways something to think about perhaps.

Of if you are not related to this John Livingstone of Lettermore there were two John Livingstons who were born abt. 1771 and 1773 both curiously from the village of Sorne. Now Sorne if I am not mistaken is not too far from Lettermore and Tobermory and I think some of the Morrison family lived there. Dr. Livingstone's grandmother was Morrison and curiously Dr. Livingstone's Uncle, his grandmother Mary Morrisons brother settled in PEI in the early 1800's near Belfast, PEI I think. It would bee interesting if Dr. Livingstone's Uncle John Livingston settled in Cape Breton but it is difficult to prove unfortunatley as there is no historic evidence left behind of this. Ultimately only a genealogy DNA test can prove whether you are related to Dr. David Livingstone's family.

regards,

Donald

[Kyle MacLea]

Sandy,

If you do want any additional info on the DNA Project, let me know! We've been making a lot of discoveries and connections lately, and it would in all likelihood connect you with cousin families pretty quickly!

Kyle=

[Livingstone_PEI]

I just noticed on this site are all the marriage and death certificates for Prince Edward Island. The death certificates are not true death certificates, but after being at the archives this is all there is.

http://pilot.familysearch.org/

Barry

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Barry,

Hope you had a good summer. Great to see some more PEI information of interest to PEI Livingstones. Thanks again.

regards,

Donald

[Livingstone_PEI]

Yeh I had hit a wall for awhile and I needed to step back for awhile. A few leads opening now, so down the road I go to see where it goes.

Barry

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Barry,

Not the easiest route but I think the Genealogy DNA testing is one sure way we can sort out the Cape Breton Livingstons and which of the original Livingston pioneer families of Cape Breton from the early 1800`s are related and how they are connected to other highland Livingstons from Argyllshire, Scotland. As your PEI Livingstons are almost certainly from Whycocomagh, INverness Cape Breton testing of Livingstons connected to the Whycocomagh or your Dundas, PEI family would be helpful to your research as would those of Mull River I suspect.

regards,

Donald