Medonte Township, Simcoe County, Ontario Livingstons
Neil Livingston b.abt. 1790 and Flora Gilchrist of Bowmore,Kilarrow, Island of Islay
1832 received Free Land Grant 100 acres Con. 9 Lot 7 from Government of Upper Canada in Oro Township, Simcoe County
Later lived with family in neighbouring Medonte Township,Simcoe County. Neil Livingston was born abt. 1790 died 1871 and is buried in Knox Presbterian Church Cemetery, Oro Township,Simcoe County,Ontario. THese Livingston family from Kilarrow Parish,Islay,Argyllshire, Scotland lived near Craighurst, Ontario in Simcoe County.
1. Alexander Livingston b.abt. 1811 Avinvoggie,Kilarrow Parish, Islay m. Martha Morrison
Located Con. 12 Lot 3 Medonte Township,Simcoe COunty, Ontario
2. Isabella Livingston b.abt.1813 Gartnatra,Kilarrow Parish,Islay
3. Duncan Livingston b. abt. 1815 Newcottage,Kilarrow Parish,Islay
4. James Livingston b. abt. 1817 or 1820 Newcottage,Kilarrow Parish,Islay d. 1901 Medonte Township,Simcoe County, Ontario m. Catherine Morrison 1825-1905 Buried Knox Presbyterian Church Cemetery Oro Township, SImcoe County, Ontario
Located Concession 12 Lot 3 Medonte Township,Simcoe County,Ontario
5. Mary Livngston b. abt. 1821 or 1822 Gartnatra,Kilarrow Parish,Islay d. Feb.3,1869 Medonte Township m. John McArthur b.abt.1803 died July 21,1879 Medonte Township. Buried Knox Presbyterian Cemetery, Oro Township,Simcoe County, ONtario
6. Ronald Livingston b.abt. 1827 Gartnatra,Kilarrow Parish,Islay d. Sept 19,1866 Medonte Township, Simcoe County.Located Concession 12 Lot 4 Medonte Township,Simcoe County,Ontario Buried Knox Prebyterian Church, Oro Township, Simcoe COunty, ONt.
7. Janet Livingston b.abt.1829 Gartnatra,Kilarrow Parish,Islay
Dougald Livingston b. abt 1802 received 100 acre Free Grant of land from the Government of Upper Canada in 1832 in Medonte Township, Simcoe County Concession 11 Lot 6 W 1/2
Medonte Township, Simcoe County, Ontario Livingstons
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Re: Medonte Township, Simcoe County, Ontario Livingstons
Hi Alex,
I am wondering if they have a maiden name for ALexander Livingston of Medonte Township's wife Martha?
Ask them if anyone knows where Alexander b. 1819 and Martha Livingston were buried. I have not checked for a death record yet. I assume they both died in Medonte Township where they last resided.They should be in the Knox Presbyterian Church cemetery in Oro Township but only one of their sons and perhaps a few others are buried there. No mention of his wife Flora Gilchrist but Alex's father Neil Livingston who died in 1871at age 80 is there and his stone which states that he is "native of Bowmore, Islay,Argyllshire,Scotland "but that stone is lying has been lying on the ground apparently and the inscription will soon fade so that it cant be read unless the descendants undertake to upright it and secure it. It is a significant Islay Scotland settler stone that deserves to be prevented from wasting away lying flat on the ground. Hopefully some relative in OR0- Medonte Township will at somepoint soon organize an effort to save it. It really is a significance piece of Oro-Medonte Township history in itself. It would be nice to see it preserved and legible for future generations. THe other option for the descendants is to erect a new granite stone with the info from the damaged stone which will insure that Neil Livingstone's information will be legible for a very long time. That is what my relatives did with a great-great-great grandfather's stone. It is so sad to see the important Livingston info on that old Islay Livingston stone fade away till it soon cant be read. Soil and grass are also overgrowing where it says "SCotland". If there not going to save it at least that should be cleared around it.
The other thing is I want to ask if you or your Uncle Rob have checked about an obituary for your ancestor Alexander Livignton b.1815 and Flora Lamont born abt. 1820. Or FLora father Samuel who died in 1869. I am thinking that the best chance would be a possible obituary with some family info on Alexander or Flora in an old Collingwood newspaper. Perhaps the local historical society in Nottawasaga Township, Simcoe COunty keeps this type on info on file. There is probably a death record for Alexander and FLora but it wont likely be too informative and wont likely list the name of Alexanders parents unfortunately given that the Ontario records generally prior to World War 1 did not often include info on the parents of the deceased like that of 19th century Scottish records from 1855 on. Very annoying fact.
regards,
Donald
I am wondering if they have a maiden name for ALexander Livingston of Medonte Township's wife Martha?
Ask them if anyone knows where Alexander b. 1819 and Martha Livingston were buried. I have not checked for a death record yet. I assume they both died in Medonte Township where they last resided.They should be in the Knox Presbyterian Church cemetery in Oro Township but only one of their sons and perhaps a few others are buried there. No mention of his wife Flora Gilchrist but Alex's father Neil Livingston who died in 1871at age 80 is there and his stone which states that he is "native of Bowmore, Islay,Argyllshire,Scotland "but that stone is lying has been lying on the ground apparently and the inscription will soon fade so that it cant be read unless the descendants undertake to upright it and secure it. It is a significant Islay Scotland settler stone that deserves to be prevented from wasting away lying flat on the ground. Hopefully some relative in OR0- Medonte Township will at somepoint soon organize an effort to save it. It really is a significance piece of Oro-Medonte Township history in itself. It would be nice to see it preserved and legible for future generations. THe other option for the descendants is to erect a new granite stone with the info from the damaged stone which will insure that Neil Livingstone's information will be legible for a very long time. That is what my relatives did with a great-great-great grandfather's stone. It is so sad to see the important Livingston info on that old Islay Livingston stone fade away till it soon cant be read. Soil and grass are also overgrowing where it says "SCotland". If there not going to save it at least that should be cleared around it.
The other thing is I want to ask if you or your Uncle Rob have checked about an obituary for your ancestor Alexander Livignton b.1815 and Flora Lamont born abt. 1820. Or FLora father Samuel who died in 1869. I am thinking that the best chance would be a possible obituary with some family info on Alexander or Flora in an old Collingwood newspaper. Perhaps the local historical society in Nottawasaga Township, Simcoe COunty keeps this type on info on file. There is probably a death record for Alexander and FLora but it wont likely be too informative and wont likely list the name of Alexanders parents unfortunately given that the Ontario records generally prior to World War 1 did not often include info on the parents of the deceased like that of 19th century Scottish records from 1855 on. Very annoying fact.
regards,
Donald
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Re: Medonte Township, Simcoe County, Ontario Livingstons
Hi Alex,
As John pointed out this Alexander Livingston of Mendonte Township was married to a Martha Morrison. Alexander Livington's parents Neil Livingston and his wife Flora Gilchrist of Kilarrow Parish, Islay first received land in Oro Township in 1832 before later moving on with their family to neighbouring Mendonte Township, Simcoe County, Ontario. This Alexander's father Neil Livingston died in 1871 and is buried in the old Knox Presbyterian Cemetery in Oro Township.
regards,
Donald
As John pointed out this Alexander Livingston of Mendonte Township was married to a Martha Morrison. Alexander Livington's parents Neil Livingston and his wife Flora Gilchrist of Kilarrow Parish, Islay first received land in Oro Township in 1832 before later moving on with their family to neighbouring Mendonte Township, Simcoe County, Ontario. This Alexander's father Neil Livingston died in 1871 and is buried in the old Knox Presbyterian Cemetery in Oro Township.
regards,
Donald
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Re: Medonte Township, Simcoe County, Ontario Livingstons
Donald,
More on same subject from Ancestry;
Neil Livingstone b. 1788 Argyllshire, d. 1871.
Flora Gilchrist b. 1789, Kilninian (sp ?), d. 1880 Medonte.
Married Bowmore August 1810.
Neil/Flora Family;
1.Alexander b. abt. 1811 at Bowmore, Islay, d. Nottawasaga date unknown.
Married Martha Morrison b.1824 Scotland, marriage 1850.
Family;
1. Catherine b. 1847 Ontario, m. 1868 to Richard James Livingstone b. 1839.
Richards parents, Dougald 1816 - 1862 b. Scotland & Ellen Brimstead 1825 - ??? b. Ireland.
Their family,
Matilda b. 1868 at Medonte Twp.
Emily b. 1870 at Medonte Twp.
Duncan b. 1849 at Orillia Twp.
James b. 1849 as above.
Christina b. 1850 Oro Twp.
Neil 1851 - 1880 Oro Twp.
Alexander b. 1853 at Oro Twp.
John b. 1857 at Oro Twp.
Flora b. 1858 at Oro Twp.
Janet b. 1860 at Oro Twp., d. Orillia Twp.
Isabella b. 1864 at Oro Twp.
John
More on same subject from Ancestry;
Neil Livingstone b. 1788 Argyllshire, d. 1871.
Flora Gilchrist b. 1789, Kilninian (sp ?), d. 1880 Medonte.
Married Bowmore August 1810.
Neil/Flora Family;
1.Alexander b. abt. 1811 at Bowmore, Islay, d. Nottawasaga date unknown.
Married Martha Morrison b.1824 Scotland, marriage 1850.
Family;
1. Catherine b. 1847 Ontario, m. 1868 to Richard James Livingstone b. 1839.
Richards parents, Dougald 1816 - 1862 b. Scotland & Ellen Brimstead 1825 - ??? b. Ireland.
Their family,
Matilda b. 1868 at Medonte Twp.
Emily b. 1870 at Medonte Twp.
Duncan b. 1849 at Orillia Twp.
James b. 1849 as above.
Christina b. 1850 Oro Twp.
Neil 1851 - 1880 Oro Twp.
Alexander b. 1853 at Oro Twp.
John b. 1857 at Oro Twp.
Flora b. 1858 at Oro Twp.
Janet b. 1860 at Oro Twp., d. Orillia Twp.
Isabella b. 1864 at Oro Twp.
John
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Re: Medonte Township, Simcoe County, Ontario Livingstons
Donald,
& more on same subject, again from Ancestry;
•ID: I570106493
•Name: Alexander LIVINGSTONE
•Given Name: Alexander
•Surname: LIVINGSTONE
•Sex: M
•Birth: 23 May 1811 in Avon Voggie,Argyleshire,Scotland
•Death: 1884
•Change Date: 19 Apr 2004
•Note:
NOTES: Surname is LIVINGSTON. He immigrated in 1832, and first settled in Oro, but 7 years later moved to Medonte Township.
SOURCES:
1. Book: Kith 'N Kin
Editor: Joanna McEwen
Publication: by The Oro Township Historical Society 1978
Page: 88
2. Book: Medonte A Township Remembered
Editor: Mary Garbutt
Publication: by The Township of Oro-Medonte 2003
Page: 404
Father: Neil LIVINGSTONE b: 1788 in Avon Voggie,Argyleshire,Scotland
Mother: Flora GILCHRIST b: 1788 in Kilinian,Scotland
Marriage 1 Martha MORRISON b: 1824 in Scotland •Married: 2 Apr 1850
•Note:
_STATMARRIED
SOURCE: Medonte A Township Remembered (page: 404)
Children 1. Duncan LIVINGSTONE b: 1849 in Oro Township,Simcoe County,Ontario,Canada West
2. James LIVINGSTONE b: 1849 in Oro Township,Simcoe County,Ontario,Canada West
3. Christina LIVINGSTONE b: 1850 in Oro Township,Simcoe County,Ontario,Canada West
4. Neil LIVINGSTONE b: 1851 in Oro Township,Simcoe County,Ontario,Canada West
5. Alexander LIVINGSTONE b: 1853 in Oro Township,Simcoe County,Ontario,Canada West
6. Flora LIVINGSTONE b: 1858 in Oro Township,Simcoe County,Ontario,Canada West
7. John LIVINGSTONE b: 1857 in Oro Township,Simcoe County,Ontario,Canada West
8. Janet LIVINGSTONE b: 1860 in Oro Township,Simcoe County,Ontario,Canada West
9. Isabella LIVINGSTONE b: 1864 in Oro Township,Simcoe County,Ontario,Canada West
John
& more on same subject, again from Ancestry;
•ID: I570106493
•Name: Alexander LIVINGSTONE
•Given Name: Alexander
•Surname: LIVINGSTONE
•Sex: M
•Birth: 23 May 1811 in Avon Voggie,Argyleshire,Scotland
•Death: 1884
•Change Date: 19 Apr 2004
•Note:
NOTES: Surname is LIVINGSTON. He immigrated in 1832, and first settled in Oro, but 7 years later moved to Medonte Township.
SOURCES:
1. Book: Kith 'N Kin
Editor: Joanna McEwen
Publication: by The Oro Township Historical Society 1978
Page: 88
2. Book: Medonte A Township Remembered
Editor: Mary Garbutt
Publication: by The Township of Oro-Medonte 2003
Page: 404
Father: Neil LIVINGSTONE b: 1788 in Avon Voggie,Argyleshire,Scotland
Mother: Flora GILCHRIST b: 1788 in Kilinian,Scotland
Marriage 1 Martha MORRISON b: 1824 in Scotland •Married: 2 Apr 1850
•Note:
_STATMARRIED
SOURCE: Medonte A Township Remembered (page: 404)
Children 1. Duncan LIVINGSTONE b: 1849 in Oro Township,Simcoe County,Ontario,Canada West
2. James LIVINGSTONE b: 1849 in Oro Township,Simcoe County,Ontario,Canada West
3. Christina LIVINGSTONE b: 1850 in Oro Township,Simcoe County,Ontario,Canada West
4. Neil LIVINGSTONE b: 1851 in Oro Township,Simcoe County,Ontario,Canada West
5. Alexander LIVINGSTONE b: 1853 in Oro Township,Simcoe County,Ontario,Canada West
6. Flora LIVINGSTONE b: 1858 in Oro Township,Simcoe County,Ontario,Canada West
7. John LIVINGSTONE b: 1857 in Oro Township,Simcoe County,Ontario,Canada West
8. Janet LIVINGSTONE b: 1860 in Oro Township,Simcoe County,Ontario,Canada West
9. Isabella LIVINGSTONE b: 1864 in Oro Township,Simcoe County,Ontario,Canada West
John
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Re: Medonte Township, Simcoe County, Ontario Livingstons
Donald,
1. Catherine b. 1847, married abt. 1868 to a Richard James Livingstone b. 1839, his parents were Dougald Livingstone b. 1816 Scotland, d. 1862 Canada, & Ellen Brimstead b. 1825 Ireland. Ellen was his second wife.
Richard & Catherine had two daughters, Matilda b. 1868 & Emily b. 1870 both at Medonte Twp.
The above apparently came from a book titled ''A History of Simcoe County'' written by Andrew F. Hunter
2. Isabella b. 14.07.1813 Islay, d. 17.02.1889, buried Crawford Cemetery, Oro Twp.
John
1. Catherine b. 1847, married abt. 1868 to a Richard James Livingstone b. 1839, his parents were Dougald Livingstone b. 1816 Scotland, d. 1862 Canada, & Ellen Brimstead b. 1825 Ireland. Ellen was his second wife.
Richard & Catherine had two daughters, Matilda b. 1868 & Emily b. 1870 both at Medonte Twp.
The above apparently came from a book titled ''A History of Simcoe County'' written by Andrew F. Hunter
2. Isabella b. 14.07.1813 Islay, d. 17.02.1889, buried Crawford Cemetery, Oro Twp.
John
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Re: Medonte Township, Simcoe County, Ontario Livingstons
Hi John,
Thanks for that. Not sure which Dougall Livingstone, Richards father was but I will at some point look into it. Oro Township, Simcoe County was settled by two pioneer Livingstons around 1832 from Islay, a Neil Livingston who was married to Flora Gilchrist and a Dougall Livingston both whom received land grants from the Government of Upper Canada in Oro Township in the year 1832 I noticed when checking the old land records. Neil was born abt. died 1871 buried at old Knox Presbyterian Church cemetery in Oro Township.
Regarding Dougald Livingston the 1861 Census lists him like Neil as by this point residing in neigbouring Medonte Township. The 1861 Census records Dougald as being 55 yrs of age born abt 1806 and the father of Richard age 22 b. abt. 1839 and also I noticed a Dougald Jr. age 20 b. abt. 1841. These census records one can never be entirely certain just how accurate the age info actually is, but sometimes it all one has to go on when searching for info on an ancestor. Interestingly Dougald and family are Church of England rather than Presbyterian as was Neil Livingston and Flora Gilchrist. That may suggest that old Neil and Dougall were not brothers though it is interesting that they both received a land grant in Oro Township, Simcoe County in 1832. Still there are lots of highland Livingstons that arent necessarily closely related even from the small island of Islay. No doubt Neil and Dougald are both from Islay. I know that Neil, his wife Flora Gilchrist and family are definitely is from Kilarrow Parish, Islay. I suspect Dougald is also. All the Livingtons that settled in the various townships of Simcoe County in the 1830's came from the Island of Islay,Argyllshire.
regards,
Donald
Thanks for that. Not sure which Dougall Livingstone, Richards father was but I will at some point look into it. Oro Township, Simcoe County was settled by two pioneer Livingstons around 1832 from Islay, a Neil Livingston who was married to Flora Gilchrist and a Dougall Livingston both whom received land grants from the Government of Upper Canada in Oro Township in the year 1832 I noticed when checking the old land records. Neil was born abt. died 1871 buried at old Knox Presbyterian Church cemetery in Oro Township.
Regarding Dougald Livingston the 1861 Census lists him like Neil as by this point residing in neigbouring Medonte Township. The 1861 Census records Dougald as being 55 yrs of age born abt 1806 and the father of Richard age 22 b. abt. 1839 and also I noticed a Dougald Jr. age 20 b. abt. 1841. These census records one can never be entirely certain just how accurate the age info actually is, but sometimes it all one has to go on when searching for info on an ancestor. Interestingly Dougald and family are Church of England rather than Presbyterian as was Neil Livingston and Flora Gilchrist. That may suggest that old Neil and Dougall were not brothers though it is interesting that they both received a land grant in Oro Township, Simcoe County in 1832. Still there are lots of highland Livingstons that arent necessarily closely related even from the small island of Islay. No doubt Neil and Dougald are both from Islay. I know that Neil, his wife Flora Gilchrist and family are definitely is from Kilarrow Parish, Islay. I suspect Dougald is also. All the Livingtons that settled in the various townships of Simcoe County in the 1830's came from the Island of Islay,Argyllshire.
regards,
Donald
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Re: Medonte Township, Simcoe County, Ontario Livingstons
Donald,
According to Ancestry, Dougalds parents were Neil Livingstone & Flora Gilchrist,
John
According to Ancestry, Dougalds parents were Neil Livingstone & Flora Gilchrist,
John
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Re: Medonte Township, Simcoe County, Ontario Livingstons
Hi John,
The parish records indicate that Neil and Flora Gilchrist's eldest son was Alexander baptised in 1811 in Kilarrow Parish, Islay. Neil was born abt. 1788/1791 something like that and married Flora Gilchrist in 1810 or 1811 in Kilarrow Parish at the Bowmore Church. Sons were Alexander, Duncan, James and Ronald the youngest son whom Neil lived with in his old age. Dont have any children born before 1811 based on the original Islay Isle Kilarrow parish records. DOugald was born in the early 1800's 1802 or 1806 something like that depending on which census record you look at. Neil would have been very young when Dougall was born. I suspect someone has just stated that as fact without locating that info in the Scottish parish records.
regards,
Donald
The parish records indicate that Neil and Flora Gilchrist's eldest son was Alexander baptised in 1811 in Kilarrow Parish, Islay. Neil was born abt. 1788/1791 something like that and married Flora Gilchrist in 1810 or 1811 in Kilarrow Parish at the Bowmore Church. Sons were Alexander, Duncan, James and Ronald the youngest son whom Neil lived with in his old age. Dont have any children born before 1811 based on the original Islay Isle Kilarrow parish records. DOugald was born in the early 1800's 1802 or 1806 something like that depending on which census record you look at. Neil would have been very young when Dougall was born. I suspect someone has just stated that as fact without locating that info in the Scottish parish records.
regards,
Donald