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Re: Dalhousie Township, Lanark County, Ontario Livingstons

Postby Canadian Livingstone » Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:56 pm

Hi John,

This week I was at the archives searching for some original Canadian records to provide any further info regarding the origins of the Dalhousie Township, Livingstons. As I may have mentioned a while back I noticed a photo of ALexander Livingtons tombstone in Dalhousie Township clearly indicated that he was a native of Mull who died in 1840 at the age of 43. So that certainly backs the notion that they all came from Mull. But my question is whether or not the three Livingston brothers Duncan, Alexander, John and a sister Catharine (Mrs Duncan Stewart) all came over in 1821 on the David of London. I know that Suzanne's ancestor William Livingstone and his wife Isabella Bremner who also settled in Lanark County, Ontario definitely did. It is well documented that Isabella's father George Bremner was residing in Doune,Perthshire and William and his wife with with him aboard that ship. One noted scottish genealogist stated in his book that there was information that some or all of these brothers came over on the David of London in 1821. However I am not certain whether they in fact arrived in 1820. I have located a Volume 421 of some records in the archives which I understand contains settlement info on some of these brothers that settled in Dalhousie township circa 1820 or 1821 and I should be able to get precise dates when they first applied for land. Mind you what we want to know is not when they received their land in Dalhousie Township but when first arrived in Canada or at least when they first contacted the government of Upper Canada with their petition for a land grant. I did not find them in the land grant index but I am told there is original records on them in Volume 421 so I am hopeful that I can find some bit of original information to suplement what info is already out their on their settlement location in Dalhousie Township, Lanark County, Ontario which I already have for Alexander, John, Duncan and Catharine (Mrs Duncan Stewart). I suspect they reached Canada from a lowland port such as Glasgow or Greenock rather than Tobermory and may even been residing in the Glasgow area at the time but I want to verify whether or not there some original 1820's documentation stating that they arrived via the David of London as has been stated.

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Re: Dalhousie Township, Lanark County, Ontario Livingstons

Postby Canadian Livingstone » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:08 pm

HI John,

I should at this time mention that there were or are two settlements named Lettermore in Argyllshire. One was located in Mull in Kilninian Parish and is where two of Dr. Livingstone's older Uncles and Aunts were baptised in the 1770's and also where Duncan Livingston and Christian Beaton were residing at the time their children were baptised a decade or more later. The parish records also indicate that Dr. Livingtone's grandparents Neil Livingston and Mary Morrison were residing at Lettermore at the time of their 1774 marriage a few years before moving on to the nearby Isle of Ulva.The other Lettermore was located near Ballachulish in the Appin vicinity and figures prominently in some local folklore.

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Re: Dalhousie Township, Lanark County, Ontario Livingstons

Postby jmlivingstone » Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:10 pm

Donald,

See info below on Curry & Livingstone family emigration.

Currie and Livingston references in Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to Canada

1821 , Greenock Scotland to Lanark Co., Ontario, Canada

From "A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to Canada Before Confederation" by Donald Whyte, F.H.G., F.S.G., published by the Ontario Genealogical Society, Toronto, 1986, call number 971 F2wd.

Entries transcribed by John Metcalf.

Volume 1.

The reference HCL refers to "A Pioneer History of the County of Lanark, by Jean S. McGill. Bewdley, ONT, 1968, reprinted 1979.

2035 CURRIE, Hugh. Rel to John C, qv. To Lanark Co., ONT, 1821; stld Lot 6, Con 4, North Sherbrooke Twp. HCL 74

2044 CURRIE, John. To QUE on the Alexander, 1816; stld Lot 16, Con 4, Bathurst Two, Lanark Co., ONT. HCL 233

2046 CURRIE, John. Rel to Hugh C, qv. To Lanark Co., ONT 1821; stld Lot 6, Con 4, North Sherbrooke Twp. HCL 74

Volume 2

The reference ICS refers to "Immigration: Canada from Scotland." Selected records in the Ontario Department of Public Records and Archives (not The Archives of Ontario, 77 Grenville Street, Queen's Park, Toronto, M7A 2K9. Reel 154.

The reference CLP refers to Upper Canada Land Petitions: Perth Military Settlement, 24. Manuscript material in the National Archives of Canada, 395 Wellington Street, Ottawa, ONT, K1A 0N3,. Microfilm reel C-2739, RG1, L3, vols. 420-422. Researchers at the Archives should consuld Finding Aid 1802.

1879 CURRIE, Daniel. To Quebec on the Earl of Buchinghamshire, ex Greenock, 28 Apr 1821, in assoc with the Paisley Townhead Emig Soc. Loc Lanark Co, ONT. First slmt advance to him paid 1 Aug. ICS-6

4309 LIVINGSTON, Alexander, Arr Quebec with wife, summer, 1821; loc 5 NOv, Lot 5FE, Con 11, Dalhousie Twp, Lanark Co, ONT. ICS-2

4315 LIVINGSTON, Duncan. To Quebec on the David of London, ex Greenock, 19 May 1821; stld Dalhousie Twp, Lanark Co, ONT. Wife and 6 ch with him. CLP 421

4320 LIVINGSTON, John. To Quebec, prob on the David of London, ex Greenock, 19 May 1821; loc Dalhousie Twp, Lanark Co, ONT, with his wife. CLP 421

4327 LIVINGSTONE, Catherine. From Is Mull, ARL. To Lanark Co, ONE, <1850. MOved <1852 to Pewrth Co. m Duncan Stewart, qv. OGF 28, 123,

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Re: Dalhousie Township, Lanark County, Ontario Livingstons

Postby jmlivingstone » Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:18 pm

Donald,

Some more on same subject,

Livingston entries in Directory oif Scottish Settlers in North America 1625-1825

1821 , Greenock Scotland to Lanark Co., Ontario, Canada

"Directory oif Scottish Settlers in North America 1625-1825" by David Dobson, Volume V, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore. On page 142 is the following:

LIVINGSTON, ALEXANDER

Emigrated from Scotland, with his wife, to Canada. Received a land grant in Dalhousie, Upper Canada, on 5 November 1821. (PAO)

LIVINGSTON, DUNCAN

Emigrated from Scotland, with wife, three sons and three daughters, to Canada on the David of London in June 1821. Received a land grant in Dalhousie, Upper Canada, on 1 September 1821. (PAO)

LIVINGSTON, WILLIAM

Emigrated from Scotland, with wife and son, to Canada on the David of London in June 1821. Received a land grant in Lanark, Upper Canada, on 9 September 1821, and on 24 March 1822. (PAO)

PAO = Public Archives of Ontario,

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Re: Dalhousie Township, Lanark County, Ontario Livingstons

Postby Canadian Livingstone » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:36 pm

Hi John,

That is very convincing information and certainly supports the notion that the Livingstons that settled in Dalhousie Township, Lanark County arrived in 1821 and travelled to the port of Quebec aboard the same vessel as the William Livingston and his wife Isabella Bremner and George Bremner of the Doune Emigration Society who also settled in Lanark County but in a different township in 1821. The other day I started to try and track down the original government documents for these Livingstons that settled at Dalhousie Township that gave details of their settlement in Canada. It is apparently located in Volume 421 and I know which reel so I should be able to find it. By going through the original archive records on microfilm at the archives I was hoping to completely rule out the notion that they arrived a year earlier in 1820.

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Re: Dalhousie Township, Lanark County, Ontario Livingstons

Postby jmlivingstone » Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:40 pm

Hi Donald,

The letter below is a bit long, but as we are on the subject of the David of London, & provides info on the conditions the early settlers had to endure, it's probably of interest,

John

Voyage to Quebec on the David of London, 1821
with mention of the passengers of the Earl of Buckinghamshire and Commerce
This is taken from Emigration to Canada: Narrative of a Voyage to Quebec, and Journey from Thence to new Lanark, in Upper Canada by John M'Donald, published in 1826.

Having, with many of my countrymen, determined to embark for Canada; little dreaming, from the flattering accounts which had been so industriously published respecting that country, of the hardships attending such an undertaking, I left Glasgow for Greenock, to embark on board the ship David of London, for Quebec, along with nearly 400 other passengers, where, having gone though the necessary steps at the custom-house, we left the quay on the 19th of May, 1821. A steam boat dragged the ship to the tail of the bank, and the wind being favourable we immediately sailed, and in 28 hours lost sight of land. Having a fair wind for this space of time, with fine agreeable weather, we enjoyed the pleasure of walking on deck, and beholding the calm unruffled face of the deep, which, combined with the bold, rugged, and romantic appearance of the coasts bordering on both sides of the firth, presented scenes that were truly delightful. But alas! the picture was soon reversed. The wind rose, a heavy gale commenced, and the waves rolled mountains high, and made a mighty noise. To see a ship making her way in the midst of a storm, over these lofty billows, is both grand and awful. We now became like drunken men, reeling and staggering to and fro. To walk on deck was impossible, and the places where the pots were erected for cooking, tumbled down, so that we could not get any victuals made ready, and some of our associates were compelled to mix a little meal and molasses, and use this composition as a substitute for better fare. The comparative want of food, and the storm together, rendered us very weak. This storm continued nine days. The captain affirmed, that he had never witnessed a tempest of such long continuance at that season of the year. During the rest of our voyage, we had stormy days now and then, but none to be compared to the former, either in degree or duration. Several times many of our company got themselves drenched with the waves of a heavy rolling sea breaking over the deck, and which also entering the hatch-hole, wetted us very much. On this account, we were completely shut up in the hold. At the commencement of the storm the weather became very cold. This circumstance, providentially, was greatly in our favour, from our being so much crowded together, which in several respects was very disagreeable to our feelings. This cold state of the weather continued till we approached the mouth of the St. Laurence, when it became so warm, that I was nearly suffocated from the smell and heat below deck. I was consequently compelled to sleep on deck, together with many others, who were in a similar situation. Every favourable day the Captain ordered all his passengers to bring up their clothes and air them. The sick passengers were also all ordered above, those who were unable being assisted. The Captain was much afraid lest an infectious fever should get in amongst us, and he himself, after landing at Quebec, was confined for some time by severe indisposition. Four births took place during our passage, but three of the children died, and a boy of four years old; another fell from the deck into the hold, and broke his arm; and had not he fallen upon some persons who were providentially at that time in that place, the event would probably have been much more serious. Having entered the Gulph of St. Laurence, we found it necessary to obtain a Pilot. The weather now became warmer, and as the wind was a-head of us, our rate of sailing became slower, and we had to cast anchor several times. This change in our rate of sailing, was greatly in the favour of such passengers as were sick, as they all recovered quickly. This was a very happy circumstance, there being no impediment to prevent our landing: the surgeon having declared that there was no fever amongst us. We consequently got all in at once, and having anchored, the Captain and several of the passengers went ashore, having ordered the Mate not to suffer any ardent spirits to be brought on board. Nevertheless, some of the passengers who had gone ashore, returned with some rum, which was taken from them and thrown over board. This circumstance caused no small disturbance, and produced blows between the sailors and the passengers, and even also amongst the sailors themselves; and till the scuffle terminated it was indeed a very disorderly night. We arrived at Quebec on the 25th of June, when we were all inspected by the surgeon, and then passed through the custom-house. We all slept that night on board, and by 6 o'clock in the morning the steam boat was laid alongside of us, when we all set to work to get our luggage on board of it. We continued all that day at Quebec, and then went off in the steam boat at 11 o'clock at night. As we were setting out, a tremendous storm of thunder and lightning came on, the most dreadful that ever I either saw or heard; the rain was also uncommonly heavy. There were nearly 400 people on board of the steam boat, the greater part of whom were obliged to sit on deck all that night. Reader, you may easily guess our situation. I can assure you, I myself and the greater part of all who were on deck were as thoroughly drenched as water could make us, and we all had to remain drenched as we were, in our wet clothes, till they dried on our backs. We had no alternative, access to our chests being impossible, as they were all locked up in the hold; and in this state we continued till we reached Montreal.

Here we arrived in 24 hours, a distance of 190 miles. Having stated our difficulties on the passage from Quebec to Montreal, I may add, that this was the first of our trials in going up the country; and I can safely aver, to my certain knowledge, that it was the source and cause of their trouble who are now no more in this world. Nay, to show you further our distress, the beds of those passengers who were stationed on the lee side of the boat, between the engine-house and the paddles, were made literally to swim with the rain water. Every thing was spoiled, our very meal and bread being reduced to a state of dough. We now began to carry our luggage from the steam boat, Government having provided waggons in abundance. We mutually assisted each other in loading them with the women and children; and all who were unable to walk got on the top of them as far as the village of La Chine, ten miles up the St Laurence from Montreal. Here we arrived on the 28th of June, and remained 4 days; till we got as many boats as we required. We then set out all together in 15 flat-bottomed boats. Our number amounted to 366 persons. Here a very difficult part of our journey commenced, namely, the passing the rapids of the St Laurence. Some of these have a very strong current, and as the stream is very shallow and stony, the boats sometimes grounded. Then all the men who were able were necessitated to jump into the river to haul the boats wading up to the middle of their bodies, and sometimes deeper. At these rapids the women and children were obliged to come out and walk; and in several places, the rapids run with such a force, that we were compelled to get 2 horses to haul every boat. None but those who have experienced it, can conceive the difficulty of ascending these rapids. To me it seems wonderful how they can surmount them. Many of our unhappy countrymen suffered extremely from these hardships, on account of the intense heat of the season, and drinking too freely of the river water. In addition to these difficulties, being destitute of dry clothes, we were obliged to continue in this uncomfortable situation night and day. Many of them took badly on the road, and were obliged to remain behind their families many days. This became a very distressing circumstance to them, in going up the river. When night came, we remained on the river side. Sometimes we got access to farm houses, and sometimes not. Others lay in the woods all night, where, having kindled a fire, they would have cooked their supper in the best way they could, and spread such clothes under them as they had, for a bed. In which situation I have found in the morning my night-cap, blankets, and mat, so soaked with dew, that they might have been wrung. One may easily conceive that this was very prejudicial to our health. Some of the passengers indeed got into barns, but by far the most part of them lodged out in fields for six nights, in which space of time we made our journey from La Chine to Prescot, which is 120 miles. There we had to pitch our tents in the best way we could, in the open field-wretched dwellings indeed! One may easily judge of our situation, from this circumstance, that frequently we were under the necessity, many of us, of spending the whole night in laving the water with dishes from around our tents, which literally ran below our very beds. Here we began soon to feel the effects of our river journey, and of our lying out in the fields. There were none, I believe, but felt these in a greater or less degree. Many were afflicted with the bloody flux, some also took fevers, and many died of a few days illness. Our situation now became very alarming, the people generally complaining of indisposition. I continued here three weeks. This was the end of our water conveyance. The cause of our delay here arose from the great multitude that were lying at this place before our arrival. Here we found one half of the passengers of the Earl of Buckinghamshire, all those of the ship Commerce, and including us, the passengers of the ship David of London, the whole exceeded 1000 people; and it took a long time to carry their baggage along a road of 74 miles to New Lanark. We all had, each society, to wait its turn in getting away. Many were obliged to remain here on account of sickness, and many died. William Purdie, agent for the Trongate Society, died here, and two families were left orphans; the one belonged to Bridgeton, the other to Bathgate, of the name of Dick. This man was bathing in the St Laurence, when he first stopped at La Chine. He had gone beyond his depth into the stream, and the velocity of the current swept him away. He left 9 or 10 children,[sic] The former family consisted of two children, whose mother died on the passage in the ship Commerce.

Prescot is a fine little town, and daily increasing-it is a military station. Two churches are building here, the one an episcopal chapel, the other a presbyterian meeting-house. The only place of worship, as far as I could learn, which previously existed, was a school-house, the master of which gave a discourse in the forenoon to the few who attended. It is, however, seriously to be lamented, that the Sabbath, the holy and honourable of the Lord, is so little respected there. Many were employed in singing, in playing on flutes, and drinking. A few of us asked the school-house for the purpose of religious worship, which was readily granted, and each took his turn. We met here three Sabbath-days, and sung the Lord's song, read his word and approached his throne of grace, pleading the fulfilment of his gracious promise that where two or three are met together in his name, and according to his appointment, he will be in the midst of them to bless them and to do them good. We found those days to be the most pleasant of all the days we spent in a foreign land. The majority of the inhabitants are Irish and French, and increasing fast. Here the mail-coach stops, this being the only road to Kingston, which is 62 miles straight up the river. We left Prescot on Monday the 30th July at 9 o'clock, and travelled six miles that night, and stopt at an inn. Here we took in our clothes, and slept all night on the floor. Got up next morning by break of day, and arrived at Brockville, 9 miles distant and breakfasted there. This is another little neat town on the river side, and said to be advancing in population. It contains several fine buildings, some of wood and others of brick. We stopt one hour only at this place. We went no farther up the river, but struck back through the country. The next night we stopt at a farmer's house, where we slept in the barn, amongst new hay, in which we felt some reptiles, and were afraid of snakes, having seen many of them on the road.

Here we tarried for our driver, waiting 3 hours for him, and at last he came with a fresh horse, one of his horses being knocked up the preceding night. We then set forward, and as we advanced, the road became worse, and towards night it became so rough, that the horse was unfit to proceed; but fortunately we got another waggoner to take the load, the drivers having made a mutual agreement betwixt themselves. We then advanced four miles farther, under the cloud of night, when we arrived at the driver's house, where we took in our bed-clothes, and got some supper made ready for us, as we stood very much in need of it.-We were allowed to sleep on the floor, and having got up early next morning, expected to have departed directly, but were detained till breakfast, when we again set out, having still the same horse, but provided with another driver. This man was very attentive in avoiding every bad place of the road, to prevent his waggon from overturning, in which he was completely successful, as it never once overset. But this was not the case with many waggons, which were overturned with men, women and children. One boy was killed on the spot, several were very much hurt; one man got his arm broken, and our own waggoner, in spite of all his care and skill, was baffled, his horse having laired in a miry part of the road, where he stuck fast, and even after he was loosed from the yoke the poor animal strove so much to no purpose, that he fell down in a state of complete exhaustion three times in the mire. The mire was so tenacious, being a tough clay, that we were compelled to disengage his feet from the clay with hand spokes, before we got him freed, and yet still he struggled long to get our waggon out of the mire, but in vain; when fortunately a team of oxen came forward, which the owner loosed from the yoke and fastened to our waggon. With these, and the horse together, the waggon was at length pulled out, and then we got on. Soon after this misfortune a great quantity of rain fell, which wetted us very much, and made us glad to creep away to the first farm house we could get. There we obtained lodging, but our bed-clothes were all so wet that we were obliged to dry them before a fire which we obtained, and to lie at the fire-side all night.

Next morning we got up early, and again set forward, hastening to the end of our journey. When we came again to the road, it appeared so very bad, that it put us to a complete stand, seeing no way of getting through it. We at last concluded, that the only alternative left us was to pull up the farmer's fences, which we did in two places, and thus got through, and then closed them up again. This was a new mode of travelling to us, but the only one by which we could at all hope to get through. Every now and then we were compelled to cut down the fences, as it was wholly a region of woods through which we had to pass, except some places occupied by farm-houses; spots cleared here and there in the midst of this immense forest. Wherever there was a spot cleared, there was commonly a farm house near it, the one indicating the other, and what was still more fortunate, a house or inn. As we approached New Perth, the road gradually improved, and the driver of course, desired some of us to go up into the waggon, and get a ride, which I accordingly did, being much fatigued. But as I was standing in the waggon, the horses advanced a step, and I fell out of the vehicle on my back, and broke one of my ribs by lighting on a small stone. By this accident I was very much bruised, and it was a great mercy that I was not killed on the spot, the road being stony. In such a piteous plight, I arrived at Perth, and immediately applied to a surgeon for medical aid, who advised me to bathe the injured part with vinegar, and bind it close and hard, which I did, and slept all night in a stable, the only convenience we could procure for that purpose. A great many of my fellow travellers to this land of promise, remained here, some on account of sickness and fatigue, and others because the horse being knocked up could go no farther.

Perth is a thriving place, and daily increasing in population. Here are two churches, the one a Presbyterian meeting house, and the other a Roman Catholic chapel. There are also two bakers, several store-keepers, two or three smiths, and a post office. I read a very long list of names affixed to the door of the office, mentioning those for whom letters were lying there. The post goes no farther than this place, but a similar list, for the same purpose, is also affixed to the door of the King's store at New Lanark. In such a thinly peopled district, and where other means of communication are so difficult, such a practice is absolutely necessary. We left Perth next morning, which is 14 miles from New Lanark, and came to a large stream, called the Little Mississippi, over which we had to ferry. I then saw a tent, the people of which told us, that the reason why they were stopping there, was the superior salubrity of the situation, it being on the river side, and thus enjoying a freer air.

Having advanced within two miles of New Lanark, on the 4th of August, we were informed that the settlers were getting a deal worse, and that no less than four of a family were sick at the same time. I have known a whole family afflicted with the fever successively before it left them. The reason of this is clear and obvious to those who will be at the necessary pains to think and investigate, namely, the immensity and closeness of the woods that surround them. Through these impervious forests no wind possibly can penetrate, and there is consequently no circulation. The people live in the midst of a stagnant atmosphere, never rarified by the solar rays, and never replaced by a purer current, thus continually inhaling a corrupted atmosphere, fevers and agues are the inevitable result. Instead of wondering why so many are thus afflicted, and that so much misery and distress prevail, the wonder ought rather to be, that the half of them, at least, are not dead. Reader, pause a little whilst reading this tale of woe, and consider, for a moment the deplorable state of your unhappy, unthinking, and deluded countrymen, thus exposed for 8 weeks to the noisome exhalations of immense woods, the excessive and rapid variations of a Canadian climate, and the excessive humidity of an American atmosphere; without any shelter from the inclemencies of the sky, the heavy and unwholesome dews, and the rains and the winds, (to which latter there is nothing of a similar nature parallel in this country) but such as a few posts driven into the ground, and then wrapped together with the frail branches of trees, could give. Wretched habitations indeed! and utterly insufficient to prevent the torrents of rain, (for the rains in that region are not showers, but literally torrents that plow up the very ground) from penetrating these temporary tabernacles. Such substitutes, when the branches wither, are almost completely open at the sides. Some, who are able, cover them with blankets, or whatever else they can obtain, on the roof; others have them covered round about. This will not, however, prevent reptiles, such as snakes and lizards, from getting in. I saw a snake myself sucking a frog nigh my tent, but we killed it, and when it got a stroke on the head, it shot out its poisonous fangs. After this we grew more afraid of the venomous reptiles. We saw numbers of squirrels running about our beds; and we were frequently deprived of sleep from the unwelcome intrusions of oxen and cows, which, straying from their owners, came close to our tents, and we were much terrified, lest they should have pulled our tabernacles about our ears. The swine would come to our very heads, and take away any thing they could find or see; and they seemed to be very fond of their own flesh, seizing what flesh meat we had, and running away with it in their mouths, so that we were obliged to pursue them, in order to recover it.
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Re: Dalhousie Township, Lanark County, Ontario Livingstons

Postby Canadian Livingstone » Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:33 am

Hi John,
Thanks for taking the time to share that with us.
It is wonderful that this personal account from a settler aboard the David of London in 1821 suvived and we can get a real sense of his experiences on the ship and some of what he saw as travelled through Upper Canada. Interesting that he mentions snakes. In 1821 there were still two kinds of poisonous rattle snakes in Upper Canada (Ontario, Canada, one preferred swampy forested areas and the other more rocky areas. In some areas where the rattle snakes proved to be big problem, the settlers sometimes paid to have them removed. I think that the Timber rattler is extinct in Ontario now, but the Mississauga Rattler can still be seen in certain locations. One tries not to step on them and it is reccommended to give them a wide berth when encountering them. Certainly the early settlers would have found these venomous snakes to be a great nusance and threat to their health, but it is also unfortunate to see any animals pushed into extinction as they had no doubt lived largely undisturbed in the Canadian wilderness for thousands of years before there were settlements.

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Re: Dalhousie Township, Lanark County, Ontario Livingstons

Postby Kyle MacLea » Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:03 am

What a great read! Thanks for sharing that, John!

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Re: Dalhousie Township, Lanark County, Ontario Livingstons

Postby Canadian Livingstone » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:06 pm

Hi John,

An update on the Dalhousie Township Livingstons and one small problem with the published Canadian information.
Stupidly,I forgot about the existence of the David of London passenger list. Despite what the Canadian information is stating, interestingly the original passenger list (PRO CO 42/189 ff 512-69) which includes the nine lowland Emigration societies that were aboard the David of London does not list the Duncan, Alexander or John Livingston that settled in Dalhousie Township. I forgotten about this as it as has been a while since I looked at the passenger list but only Livingston family are that of Suzanne's ancestor William Livingston and wife Isabella Bremner who travelled with Isabellas father George Bremner President of the Deanston by Doune Emigration Societies. As I said I am going to check Volume 421 and see what was recorded in the Upper Canada records in 1821. Perhaps the mistake occurred as far back as 1821 in the Canadian records. It would seem the records in the archives in Britain that is to say the original passenger list of the David of London that sailed in May of 1821 does not indicate that these other Livingstons that settled in Dalhousie Township were on that ship. I have some time tomorrow to check Volume 421 in the Canadian records and become more familiar with its history and origin as a source of information on the settlers.

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Re: Dalhousie Township, Lanark County, Ontario Livingstons

Postby jmlivingstone » Tue May 01, 2012 7:59 am

Donald,

I did notice somewhere,it was emphasised they ''possibly'' emigrated on the David of London, unfortunately, I do not remember where I saw it, I'll have a look later,

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