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Re: Angus Livingstone& Margaret (Hall/McPhail), Shiaba, Mul

Post by Canadian Livingstone »

Hi John,
Looks like you have made a lot of progress in your research of your Edmonton family line as well as the Livingstons in Scotland.
Have you thought about creating a family tree wall chart of your Livingston and other families you are kin to? Great to have on display for visiting relatives and looks very cool.

As mentioned in my post prior to yours, a fourth Livingston of Morvern Livingston Origin was tested and the update to that message is that Stephen Livingston whose family was residing at Achabegg, Morvern in the 1840's before coming to American in 1851 and his earlier ancestor was a brother of Donald Livingston 1728-1816 of Savary, Morvern, was tested and found to be a close match as suspected with the three other Morvern LIvingstons tested and matching with our Parker Livingston Group. So we know have four Livingstons with ancestors of Morvern origin, one of neighbouring Ardnamurchan ancestry, a good number with documented Mull ancestry and others with likely Argyllshire ancestry as well. Two or three with documented Perthshire ancestry but matching with the Parker Livingstons of Argyllshire origin and given that Perthshire in in the highlands and near Argyllshire it seems likely their Perthshire ancestors migrated to neighbouring Perthshire in the 1700's and originally lived in Western Argyllshire from Mull, Morvern, Ardnamurchan or one of the other Parishes in Western Argyllshire. What I find encouraging is the original and more recent participants with documented or suspected Western Argyllshire with documented connections with Mull and Morvern virtually all of them except one in the last 10 years matched with the Parker Livingston group. I can now tell you that with one descendant of the famous Savary, Morvern Jacobite Donald Livingston's brother tested it looks like Donald Livingston and his Achnacree Maconlea and Morvern Maconlea/Livingstone family line is connected to our Morvern and Mull dominated Parker Livingston Group. There is also maybe a chance that another Livingston of Savary, Morvern ancestry a direct descendant of Donald Livingstone 1728-1816 may be interested in the Maclea Livingstone DNA Project. I will let you know if that is the case. I know from talking to participants that the Livingston matches showing up on each participants list varies depending on the matches but I think there are now over 20 Livingstons who have done the 67 marker test including one who has done the 37 marker test with the Parker Livingston Group. Also others of other families matching with these Livingstons to some degree.

regards,

Donald
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Re: Angus Livingstone& Margaret (Hall/McPhail), Shiaba, Mul

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Hi John,

Two Penmore Mull Livingston families came to Nova Scotia a few years apart in the early 1800's. A descendant of one participated in the DNA project several years ago, but I am hoping that some descendant of the second Penmore Mull Livingstons may be interested in participating in the project which will help to prove whether or the two Penmore Livingsons that settled in Nova Scotia in the early 1800's were in fact brothers.

regards,

Donald
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Re: Angus Livingstone& Margaret (Hall/McPhail), Shiaba, Mul

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Hi John,

I just got a book in the mail on the Highland Famine and its impact on highlanders in Argyll and elsewhere and thought of your Angus Livingston family research project your presently working on.
It is not clear what your ancestor Angus Livingston of Colonsay, Arygll died from when he died on Oct. 30, 1847 in Paisley, Renfrewshire where a son and daughter of his were residing at the time having also left Colonsay, Argyll. While most people are familiar with the effect the Potato crop failure of the 1840's had on Ireland, it is less commonly known that nearby Western Argyllshire was also severely affected. It is clear from contemporary accounts from the period of 1846 to 1847 that malnutrition and disease had become rampant in parts of Argyll such as Mull/Colonsay area linked to this disastrous crop failure. From T. M. Devine's book "The Great Highland Famine" " between the years 1846 and 1855 the potato, the main subsistence crop of the population of the Western Highlands and Islands, failed in whole or in part and destitution and the killer diseases associated with these conditions." "...massive external assistance was required to reduce the real danger posed to the lives of many thousands of people. .... the subsistence crisis had a fundamental impact on such crucial social indicators such as birth, marriage, emigration and migration. The famine caused a huge exodus from the stricken region on quite an unprecedented scale. The Highland Famine did not directly cause the deaths of many people except in 1846 and 1847 , but it did have momentous demographic consequences for the inhabitants of the north of Scotland." That being said there was a definite increase in malnutrition and disease in the Mull/Colonsay area and some of those suffering and sickened with disease ended up in the lowlands during the 1846 and 1847. Whether Angus left Colonsay before 1846 or after is not known for certain but his son Hugh we do know left following the 1841 Census and in the lowlands in 1842 when he married. Later by the time of the birth of a son Hugh in 1846 was residing in Paisley. His father we know from his final pension info died in October of 1847 likely at his son's residence presumingly. His daughter unmarried at the time her father's death may have lived with the brother as well. A year later she married Mr. Logan. We may not be able to say what Angus died from, but it well be that he was exposed to diseases that were on the increase in the lowlands and rampant in the Argyllshire amongst the impoverished and malnourished tenants.




regards,

Donald
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Re: Angus Livingstone& Margaret (Hall/McPhail), Shiaba, Mul

Post by jmlivingstone »

Hi Donald,

Below is a timeline covering most of my Livingstones, probably not 100% accurate, but not too far away.

The Aikens are Agnes Edmistons family, also, quite a few of my mothers side are included, Devenish,Martin,Leitch & McGuigan, are all my mother family.

John.

1663
Old Parish Registers Records
AIKEN, MARGRAT (O.P.R. Births 561/00 0010 0009 EAGLESHAM)

1737
Old Parish Registers Records
AIKEN, JAMES (O.P.R. Marriages 561/00 0010 0061 EAGLESHAM)

1769
Old Parish Registers Records???
LIVINGSTON, ANGUS

1797
Old Parish Registers Records
EDMISTON, AGNES (O.P.R. Births 662/00 0020 0096 BATHGATE)

1800
Old Parish Registers Records
LEITCH, ROBERT (O.P.R. Births 564/001 0030 0097 GREENOCK NEW OR MIDDLE)

1802
Old Parish Registers Records
LIVINGSTON, MARY (O.P.R. Births 644/001 0200 0127 GLASGOW)

1805
Old Parish Registers Records
LIVINGSTON, JOHN (O.P.R. Births 542/00 0010 0009 KILFINICHEN AND KILVICKEON)

1807
Old Parish Registers Records
LIVINGSTON, BETTY (O.P.R. Births 542/00 0010 0021 KILFINICHEN AND KILVICKEON)

1809
Old Parish Registers Records
LIVINGSTON, CIRSTY (O.P.R. Births 542/ 0010 0033 KILFINICHEN AND KILVICKEON

1816
Old Parish Registers Records
LIVINGSTON, ----- (O.P.R. Births 542/00 0010 0085 KILFINICHEN AND KILVICKEON)
1817
Old Parish Registers Records
MCDOUGALL, FLORA (O.P.R. Births 543/00 0010 0059 KILMENY (ARGYLL))
1819
Old Parish Registers Records
LIVINGSTON, HUGH (O.P.R. Births 542/ 0010 0114 KILFINICHEN AND KILVICKEON)
1821
Old Parish Registers Records
LIVINGSTON, ANN (O.P.R. Births 542/ 0020 0016 KILFINICHEN AND KILVICKEON)
1827
Old Parish Registers Records
LIVINGSTON, CIRSTY (O.P.R. Marriages 542/ 0020 0064 KILFINICHEN AND KILVICKEON)
Old Parish Registers Records

LIVINGSTON, ANNE (O.P.R. Births 550/ 0020 0015 TOROSAY AND KINLOCHSPELVIE)
1829
Old Parish Registers Records
LIVINGSTON, JANE (O.P.R. Births 542/00 0020 0078 KILFINICHEN AND KILVICKEON)

Old Parish Registers Records
MACPHAILL, GILBERT (O.P.R. Marriages 536/00 0030 0037 BOWMORE OR KILARROW)

Old Parish Registers Records
LIVINGSTONE, ANDREW MITCHEL (O.P.R. Births 669/00 0030 0035 LIVINGSTON)
1830
Old Parish Registers Records
LIVINGSTONE, JAMES ANGUS (O.P.R. Births 669/ 0030 0039 LIVINGSTON)
1832
Old Parish Registers Records
LIVINGSTONE, JOHN (O.P.R. Births 669/ 0030 0049 Livingston)
1835
Old Parish Registers Records
LIVINGSTONE, GAVIN (O.P.R. Births 669/ 0030 0057 Livingston)
1841
Census
LIVINGSTON, ANGUS (Census 1841 539/00 007/00 009)
1842
Old Parish Registers Records
LIVINGSTON, NEIL (O.P.R. Births 539/002 0020 0013 Colonsay)

Old Parish Registers Records
LIVINGSTON, HUGH (O.P.R. Marriages 562/ 0050 0186 EASTWOOD)
1843
Old Parish Registers Records
LIVINGSTON, BETTY (O.P.R. Marriages 528/ 0020 0107 MORVERN)????
1846
Old Parish Registers Records
LIVINGSTONE, HUGH (O.P.R. Births 573/02 0030 0319 PAISLEY MIDDLE)
1848
Old Parish Registers Records
LOGAN, JACOB (O.P.R. Marriages 573/01 0040 0242 PAISLEY HIGH CHURCH)
1851
Census
LIVINGSTONE, HUGH (Census 1851 622/00 069/00 006)

Census
LIVINGSTONE, JOHN (Census 1851 543/00 005/00 019)
1855
Births
LIVINGSTON, ANDREW (Statutory Births 543/00 0001)


1857
Marriages
LIVINGSTON, GAVIN - MCLEAN, CATHERINE (Statutory Marriages 507/00 0046)
1858
Births
MCINDEOR, DUGALD (Statutory Births 543/00 0036)

Deaths
LIVINGSTONE, JOHN (Statutory Deaths 543/00 0013)

Births
LIVINGSTONE, ANDREW (Statutory Births 663/00 0182)
1859
Deaths
LIVINGSTON, ANN (Statutory Deaths 673/00 0041)

Deaths
LIVINGSTON, HUGH (Statutory Deaths 644/04 0722)
1860
Deaths
LIVINGSTON, ANN (Statutory Deaths 644/09 0618)

Deaths
LIVINGSTON, MARY (Statutory Deaths 542/00 0012)

Marriages
LIVINGSTON, ANDREW MITCHELL - YOUNG, MARGARET (Statutory Marriages 490/00 0008)
1861
Census
LEVINGSTONE, HUGH (Census 1861 644/04 086/04 007)

Deaths
LIVINGSTON, ROBERT (Statutory Deaths 644/04 0611)

Census
LEVINGSTONE, HUGH (Census 1861 644/04 086/04 007)

Marriages
MCGILVRAY, DONALD - MITCHELL, MARGARET (Statutory Marriages 543/00 0004)

Census
LIVINGSTONE, AGNES (Census 1861 543/00 001/00 004)

Births
LIVINGSTONE, LACHLANE (Statutory Births 543/00 0025)
1862
Births
LIVINGSTON, JOHN (Statutory Births 490/00 0510)

Deaths
LIVINGSTONE, JEAN (Statutory Deaths 644/02 0013)

Births
MACGILVRAY, MARY (Statutory Births 543/00 0020)
1863
Deaths
LIVINGSTONE, LACHLAN (Statutory Deaths 543/00 0021)

Deaths
LIVINGSTON, JEAN (Statutory Deaths 644/04 0392)
1864
Births
LIVINGSTONE, HUGH (Statutory Births 543/00 0004)

Births
LIVINGSTON, MARY (Statutory Births 490/00 0221)

Births
MACGILVRAY, CATHERINE (Statutory Births 543/00 0010)#

1866
Births
LIVINGSTONE, JAMES (Statutory Births 543/00 0032)

Births
LIVINGSTON, ANDREW MITCHELL (Statutory Births 490/00 0311)

Births
MCGILVRAY, ANN (Statutory Births 543/00 0014)
1868
Deaths
LIVINGSTON, AGNES (Statutory Deaths 490/00 0343)

Births
MCGILVRAY, MARGARET (Statutory Births 543/00 0016)

Births
LIVINGSTON, FLORA MCLEAN (Statutory Births 490/00 0186)
1869
Deaths
LIVINGSTONE, DUNCAN (Statutory Deaths 543/00 0006)

Marriages
MCGILVRAY, JOHN - LIVINGSTON, MARGARET (Statutory Marriages 564/02 0065)
1870
Deaths
MARTIN, MARGARET (Statutory Deaths 564/02 0156)

Deaths
LIVINGSTONE, NEIL (Statutory Deaths 543/00 0012)

Births
LIVINGSTON, CATHERINE (Statutory Births 490/00 0193)
1871
Deaths
LIVINGSTONE, JAMES (Statutory Deaths 543/00 0013)


Marriages
LIVINGSTON, JOHN - MCKELLAR, MARY (Statutory Marriages 543/00 0001)

Census
DEVENISH, HELEN C (Census 1871 732/00 001/00 018)

Births
LIVINGSTONE, JOHN (Statutory Births 543/00 0014)

Census
DEVENISH, ARTHUR (Census 1871 564/02 021/00 025)

Births
DEVENISH, ALFRED JAMES (Statutory Births 564/02 0329)

1872
Births
MACGILVRAY, JANE (Statutory Births 543/00 0019)

1873
Deaths
MARTIN, THOMASINA (Statutory Deaths 574/00 0104)

Births
LIVINGSTON, CATHERINE (Statutory Births 543/00 0010)
1874
Births
LIVINGSTON, JAMES (Statutory Births 543/00 0006)

Births
LIVINGSTON, ANN (Statutory Births 543/00 0022)

1876
Births
LIVINGSTON, MARY (Statutory Births 543/00 0024)
1877
Deaths
YOUNG, MARGARET (Statutory Deaths 490/00 0181)

1878
Marriages
LIVINGSTONE, ANDREW MITCHELL - SMITH, ISABELLA (Statutory Marriages 564/03 0222)

1879
Births
LEITCH, ROBERT (Statutory Births 564/02 0216)

Births
LIVINGSTONE, NEIL (Statutory Births 543/00 0014)

Births
MCGILVRAY, FLORA (Statutory Births 543/00 0025)


1880
Marriages
DEVENISH, GEORGE - MCGUGIN, ELIZABETH (Statutory Marriages 564/02 0011)

Births
JOHNSTON, GAVIN LIVINGSTO (Statutory Births 490/00 0057)
1881
Census
DEVENISH, GEORGE (Census 1881 564/02 004/02 004)

Births
LIVINGSTON, ANDREW MITCHELL (Statutory Births 490/00 0435)

Marriages
BUIE, ANGUS - LIVINGSTON, ANN (Statutory Marriages 543/00 0002)

Census
LIVINGSTONE, GAVIN (Census 1881 490/00 013/00 018)
1882
Births
DEVENISH, JOHN (Statutory Births 564/02 0162)

Marriages
MCLEAN, CHARLES - CAMPBELL, CHRISTINA (Statutory Marriages 644/14 0143)
Deaths
MCGUIGAN, AGNES (Statutory Deaths 564/02 0169)
1883
Marriages
LIVINGSTON, ANDREW - MCQUEEN, MAGGIE (Statutory Marriages 543/00 0002)
Deaths
LIVINGSTONE, CIRSTY (Statutory Deaths 528/00 0012)
1884
Births
DEVENISH, JOSEPH HARRISON (Statutory Births 564/02 0438)
Births
MARTIN, ROBERT (Statutory Births 574/00 0393)
1885
Marriages
MCGILP, ROBERT - SYME, JANE (Statutory Marriages 374/00 0009)

Deaths
DEVENISH, JOSEPH HARRISON (Statutory Deaths 564/02 0085)

Births
LIVINGSTON, EUPHEMIA (Statutory Births 543/00 0019)

1886
Births
LIVINGSTON, AGNES (Statutory Births 543/00 0018)

Births
DEVENISH, WILLIAM NIXON (Statutory Births 564/02 0112)

MARTIN, CHARLOTTE (Statutory Deaths 574/00 0019)

Marriages
LIVINGSTON, NEIL MCLEAN - COOPER, ELIZABETH (Statutory Marriages 644/07 0369)

1887
Births
DEVENISH, ELIZABETH JANE (Statutory Births 564/02 0248)

Deaths
LIVINGSTON, ANDREW MITCHELL (Statutory Deaths 490/00 0117)

Deaths
LIVINGSTONE, NEIL (Statutory Deaths 543/00 0011)
1888
Deaths
MCPHAIL, GILBERT (Statutory Deaths 536/00 0030)
1889
Births
LIVINGSTON, PETER (Statutory Births 543/00 0003)
1890
Births
DEVENISH, MARY (Statutory Births 564/02 0272)
Marriages
MCINTYRE, NEIL - MCGILVRAY, MARY (Statutory Marriages 543/00 0002)
1891
Deaths
LIVINGSTON, JOHN (Statutory Deaths 543/00 0004)
1893
Births
DEVENISH, GEORGE (Statutory Births 564/01 1127)
1894
Marriages
LIVINGSTONE, ANDREW - HENDRY, JEANIE RITCHIE (Statutory Marriages 644/02 0254)
1895
Births
LIVINGSTON, JAMES COOPER (Statutory Births 685/05 0503)
1896
Marriages
LIVINGSTON, JOHN - MCGILLIVRAY, MAGGIE (Statutory Marriages 564/02 0060)

Births
LIVINGSTONE, GAVIN (Statutory Births 644/04 0296)
Births
LIVINGSTON, HUGH (Statutory Births 644/10 0269)
Deaths
DEVENISH, ELIZABETH (Statutory Deaths 564/01 0410)

Births
LIVINGSTON, MARGARET (Statutory Births 564/01 0373)



1897
Births
LIVINGSTON, BARBARA (Statutory Births 564/01 1027)
1898
Marriages
LIVINGSTONE, HUGH - MCTAVISH, LILY (Statutory Marriages 526/00 0016)
1899
Births
LIVINGSTON, CATHERINE (Statutory Births 564/01 0168)
Births
MACLEAN, CHARLES (Statutory Births 544/01 0003)
Marriages
LIVINGSTONE, JAMES - BELL, CATHERINE (Statutory Marriages 541/00 0002)
Births
LIVINGSTONE, NEIL MCLEAN (Statutory Births 685/01 1864)
1900
Marriages
DEVENISH, GEORGE - MCFARLAN, MARGARET (Statutory Marriages 564/01 0104)
Births
LIVINGSTONE, ANN (Statutory Births 543/00 0011)
Births
DEVENISH, JAMES MCLEAN (Statutory Births 564/01 0067)
1901
Marriages
MCEACHERN, MALCOLM - LIVINGSTONE, CATHERINE (Statutory Marriages 722/00 0009)
Census
LIVINGSTON, ANDREW M (Census 1901 644/04 022/00 006)
Births
DEVENISH, RICHARD (Statutory Births 564/01 0610)
Census
MCGILP, ARCHIBALD (Census 1901 564/01 015/00 028)
Census
LIVINGSTON, JOHN (Census 1901 564/01 025/01 023)
Census
GIBSON, THOMAS (Census 1901 574/00 015/00 025)
1902
Births
LIVINGSTONE, DONALD (Statutory Births 564/01 0952)
Births
LIVINGSTONE, FLORA (Statutory Births 543/00 0005)
Births
DEVENISH, JOSEPH HARRISON (Statutory Births 564/01 0819)
Births
MCINDEOR, JOHN LIVINGSTON (Statutory Births 543/00 0025)
1903
Births
DEVENISH, ELIZABETH M\'GUG (Statutory Births 564/01 0649)

Deaths
LIVINGSTONE, ANDREW MITCHELL (Statutory Deaths 644/04 0648)
Marriages
DEVENISH, JOHN - SWEENEY, ALICE WHITELAW (Statutory Marriages 564/02 0115)

1904
Marriages
DUFFEY, MICHAEL - LIVINGSTONE, AGNES (Statutory Marriages 644/10 0030)
Births
DEVENISH, MARGARET MCFARL (Statutory Births 564/02 0518)
Births
LIVINGSTONE, JAMES (Statutory Births 543/00 0003)
Births
LIVINGSTON, NEIL (Statutory Births 564/01 0821)
Marriages
MCINDEOR, DUGALD - LIVINGSTONE, AGNES (Statutory Marriages 543/00 0001)
1905
Births
MCINDEOR, ANN TAYLOR (Statutory Births 543/00 0010)
Deaths
LIVINGSTONE, GAVIN (Statutory Deaths 510/01 0028)
Marriages
DEVENISH, ROBERT - MCNIECE, MARY SMITH (Statutory Marriages 564/01 0130)
Births
DEVENISH, ANNIE WHITELAW (Statutory Births 564/02 0686)
Births
LIVINGSTONE, ARCHIBALD (Statutory Births 543/00 0017)


Valuation Rolls
LIVINGSTONE, JOHN
1906
Deaths
LIVINGSTONE, FLORA (Statutory Deaths 543/00 0008)
Births
DEVENISH, MARGARET ANN MC (Statutory Births 564/01 0911)
1907
Deaths
DEVENISH, SUSAN GIBSON (Statutory Deaths 564/02 0619)
Births
MCINDEOR, MARY MCKELLAR (Statutory Births 543/00 0011)
Births
LIVINGSTONE, SUSAN (Statutory Births 543/00 0013)
Births
DEVENISH, ALICE SWEENEY (Statutory Births 564/02 0794)
Births
DEVENISH, SUSAN GIBSON (Statutory Births 564/02 0131)
1908
Marriages
TOMLIN, MALCOLM - JOHNSTON, CATHERINE MCLEA (Statutory Marriages 644/09 0516)
Births
DEVENISH, ARTHUR (Statutory Births 564/02 0613)
Births
DEVENISH, MARY BANKHEAD (Statutory Births 564/01 0995)
Deaths
LIVINGSTONE, DUNCAN (Statutory Deaths 564/01 0336)
1909
Births
MCINDEOR, CATHERINE LIVIN (Statutory Births 543/00 0003)
Marriages
MARTIN, ROBERT - DEVENISH, ELIZABETH (Statutory Marriages 564/02 0297)
1910
Births
DEVENISH, ALEXANDER MCFAR (Statutory Births 564/02 0591)
Deaths
MCGILLIVRAY, DONALD (Statutory Deaths 543/00 0004)
1911
Census
DEVENISH, MARY (Census 1911 564/01 038/00 011)
Births
MCINDEOR, DUGALD (Statutory Births 543/00 0013)
Census
LIVINGSTONE, JOHN (Census 1911 564/01 021/00 016)
Marriages
MCGIBBON, JOHN - LIVINGSTONE, ELIZABETH (Statutory Marriages 573/01 0153)
Census
DEVENISH, GEORGE (Census 1911 564/02 003/00 014)
Census
DEVENISH, JOHN (Census 1911 564/02 003/00 015)
Census
GIBSON, THOMAS (Census 1911 574/00 011/00 024)
1912
Marriages
MCKENDRICK, WILLIAM - JOHNSTON, LILIAS (Statutory Marriages 644/13 0218)
1914
Deaths
MARTIN, CHARLOTTE (Statutory Deaths 574/00 0254)
Deaths
LIVINGSTON, DUNCAN (Statutory Deaths 567/02 0033)
Deaths
DEVENISH, CHARLOTTE (Statutory Deaths 564/02 0072)
1915
Valuation Rolls
LIVINGSTONE, JOHN (Valuation Rolls VR36 / 71 / 22)
Deaths
LIVINGSTON, JOHN (Statutory Deaths 543/00 0002)
Deaths
MARTIN, ELIZABETH MCG D (Statutory Deaths 564/01 0617)
1917
Marriages
GORDON, WILLIAM - JOHNSTON, FLORENCE (Statutory Marriages 644/13 0004)
Marriages
LIVINGSTONE, PETER - MCKINLAY, ELIZABETH (Statutory Marriages 644/11 0581)
Deaths
DEVENISH, LOUIS (Statutory Deaths 564/01 0324)
Marriages
DAVIDSON, WILLIAM - JOHNSTON, BEATRICE (Statutory Marriages 644/13 0093)
1918
Marriages
JOHNSTON, STUART - YOUNG, AGNES (Statutory Marriages 644/10 0563)


1919
Marriages
COWAN, WILLIAM - LIVINGSTONE, ANN (Statutory Marriages 701/00 0021)
Marriages
LIVINGSTONE, NEIL MCLEAN - SIMPSON, LILIAN MORGAN (Statutory Marriages 135/00 0011)
1921
Deaths
MARTIN, ROBERT (Statutory Deaths 574/00 0149)
Deaths
MITCHELL, MARGARET (Statutory Deaths 543/00 0003)
Deaths
LIVINGSTONE, JAMES (Statutory Deaths 543/00 0009)
1922
Deaths
LIVINGSTONE, ANN (Statutory Deaths 543/00 0004)
1924
Marriages
MCLEAN, CHARLES - LIVINGSTONE, BARBARA (Statutory Marriages 564/02 0294)
Marriages
MCINTYRE, DANIEL - DEVENISH, MARY (Statutory Marriages 564/02 0016)
1925
Deaths
DEVENISH, ADAM MCNIECE (Statutory Deaths 564/01 0287)
Marriages
DEVENISH, RICHARD - MONTGOMERY, MARY (Statutory Marriages 564/02 0165)
Marriages
MCGILP, ARCHIBALD - LIVINGSTONE, CATHERINE (Statutory Marriages 564/01 0124)
1928
Deaths
LIVINGSTONE, JOHN (Statutory Deaths 564/01 0073)
Marriages
DEVENISH, ARTHUR - CRAWFORD, ELIZABETH VINCE (Statutory Marriages 564/02 0244)
1929
Marriages
LIVINGSTONE, JOHN - MCLAUGHLIN, ELLEN (Statutory Marriages 564/02 0266)
1931
Deaths
LIVINGSTONE, MARY (Statutory Deaths 543/00 0004)
1932
Marriages
SMITH, JOSEPH - LIVINGSTONE, MARY (Statutory Marriages 564/02 0106)
1933
Marriages
MCDONALD, DUGALD - LIVINGSTONE, SUSAN (Statutory Marriages 644/12 0029)
Marriages
CROMBIE, ALEXANDER - LIVINGSTONE, FLORA (Statutory Marriages 644/11 0344)
1934
Deaths
BUIE, ANGUS (Statutory Deaths 543/00 0004)

1935
Marriages
LIVINGSTONE, ARCHIBALD - KENNEDY, MARY FLETCHER (Statutory Marriages 540/00 0001)
1936
Deaths
DEVENISH, JOHN MARTIN (Statutory Deaths 564/01 0391)
1937
Deaths
LIVINGSTONE, MARGARET (Statutory Deaths 644/10 0667)
1940
Deaths
LIVINGSTON, ELIZABETH BELL (Statutory Deaths 573/01 1064)
1942
Deaths
DEVENISH, GEORGE (Statutory Deaths 564/02 0242)
1944
Deaths
LIVINGSTONE, MARGARET (Statutory Deaths 564/01 0295) (RCE)
Deaths
LIVINGSTONE, MARGARET (Statutory Deaths 564/01 0295)
Deaths
DEVENISH, GEORGE (Statutory Deaths 564/01 0019)
1945
Deaths
LIVINGSTONE, JOHN (Statutory Deaths 564/01 0156)
1948
Deaths
MARTIN, ROBERT (Statutory Deaths 574/00 0115) (RCE)
Deaths
MARTIN, ROBERT (Statutory Deaths 574/00 0115)
1951
Deaths
GIBSON, AGNES (Statutory Deaths 574/00 0160)
1953
Deaths
MCINDEOR, ANN (Statutory Deaths 543/00 0003)
1956
Deaths
MARTIN, ROBERT (Statutory Deaths 564/00 0056)

Deaths
MCGILVRAY, PETER (Statutory Deaths 543/00 0002)

1957
Deaths
LIVINGSTONE, ISABELLA (Statutory Deaths 543/00 0002)

1958
Deaths
MCGILVRAY, DUNCAN (Statutory Deaths 536/00 0008)

1959
Deaths
DEVENISH, ANNIE (Statutory Deaths 564/00 0998)

1961
Deaths
LIVINGSTONE, PETER (Statutory Deaths 644/01 0192)
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Re: Angus Livingstone& Margaret (Hall/McPhail), Shiaba, Mul

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Hi Donald,

Ref. cause of death of Angus, as he made a living as a textile worker, then as a weaver, I would suspect it is possible he died of lung problems, due to inhalation of dust & textile particles, even in the 1900's this was a potential major health problem, but I don't suppose we will ever know.

Paisley at that time was a major centre for the hand weaving industry, so possibly Angus spent his last few years chasing work in the rapidly declining hand weaving industry, again, I don't suppose we will ever know the full facts,

John
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Re: Angus Livingstone& Margaret (Hall/McPhail), Shiaba, Mul

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Hi John,

Stephen Livingston of our group is a descendant of Hugh Livingston and Euphemia Campbell and their son John who in the 1830's and 1840's lived in one of two cottages at Achabegg occupied by Livingstons at Achabegg, Morvern. Hugh is thought to a descendant of Ewen (Hugh) Livingston of neighbouring Savary, Morvern living in 1779 beside Donald Livingstone (1728-1816) of Savary as recorded in the 1779 Argyll census of tenants on the Argyll estates. Hugh Livingston and Euphemia Campbell had their last child in 1846 and a few years later Euphemia and some of her children (others are working elsewhere) are living in squalor and cramped conditions in Lochaline, Morvern where like in Tobermory, Mull the displaced impoverished tenants and landless cottars and paupers seemed to end up if they could not afford to migrate to the lowlands or to the colonies. Euphemia and the children appear in the 1851 Census at Lochaline and it appears then that her husband Hugh Livingston died sometime between 1846 and 1851 and the Euphemia (Effy was by now a pauper as the 1851 Census info indicates at Lochaline and a widow. No record of course of Hugh's death but it could be that with all the disease about Morvern and neighbouring Mull he took sick and died during that famine period I mentioned much your ancestor Angus did.

The Devine book "The Great Highland Famine" in the back of the book has month by month accounts in the 1846 and 1847 period of severe sickness in Mull among the tenants already suffering from the potato famine and the failure of the crop. I think many of the descendants of these tenants and cottars in Mull and neighbouring Morvern probably have no idea of the extreme poverty and suffering these people endured in those times. The eye witness accounts at the time speak of our people starving and in many cases dressed in rags. My great-great-great grandfather Miles Livingston of Morvern was one of the lucky ones as he had a trade when years earlier in 1812 one of the highland agents of Lord Selkirk offered he and a cousin Donald Livingston also a Morvern native jobs in one of Selkirk's North American colonies as a boatbuilder. It seems almost as if my ancestor and his cousin had a premonition of things to come to Argyllshire, the famine and the clearances, and that the opportunity to own your own land and have your own farm to raise your family was too good to resist even though it must been a difficult and sad decision to leave behind your ancestral homeland of Argyllshire and in all likelihood never see your friends and relatives again.

regards,

Donald
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Re: Angus Livingstone& Margaret (Hall/McPhail), Shiaba, Mul

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Hi John,

While the 1779 Argyll list of tenants tells us that your ancestor Angus his brother Donald and the father Neil Livingston resided at SHiaba, Ross of Mull circa 1779 we have no idea where Neil was born and where he originated. The 1716 list of our then Maconleas and Macleas in Mull and Morvern does not list any Maconleas or Macleas residing at Shiaba back then, so it is anyone guess where Neil Livingston's ancestors resided in 1716 or for that matter when your ancestor or his family came to Shiaba but I assume elsewhere in Ross of Mull or another part of Mull perhaps. We can hope that more descendants of Ross of Mull LIvingstons can be found who are interested in the familytreedna project.

regards,

Donald
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Re: Angus Livingstone& Margaret (Hall/McPhail), Shiaba, Mul

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Hi Donald,

I don’t know if you’ll remember, quite a few years ago, I said that I somehow had McGilvray connections from both Mull & Islay.

The Islay relatives I knew, my g/mothers family, the Mull connection, I had never really pursued, until today, when I found the answer had always been there, I had just not looked at it properly.

Mary Livingstone, daughter of Neil Livingstone & Christina Boyd, had a son Lachlan (probably illegitimate), sometimes known as Livingstone,and sometimes McGilvray.

Lachlan McGilvray would have been my 2 x g/grandfathers Johns cousin.

I’ve also picked up a bit of info indicating I may be related distantly, or possibly through marriage, to another Livingstone family, who are/were resident in Greenock area. I’ve not had time as yet to look into this one,

John.
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Re: Angus Livingstone& Margaret (Hall/McPhail), Shiaba, Mul

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Hi John,

It is quite true that in focusing on our Morvern and neighbouring Mull Livingston ancestors as we over this years with the forum we don't give as much attention to our other Western Argyllshire families we are connected to. It is quite likely our Livingston families were related to a number of the old Clan families in the area like McGillivrays as your family is and with other local families including those from Clan Mcinnes, Cameron, Carmichael, Campbell, Mclean etc.

regards,

Donald
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Re: Angus Livingstone& Margaret (Hall/McPhail), Shiaba, Mul

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Hi Donald,

Just came across this old map of Greenock & surrounding area. a couple of years ago, you were asking about Cornhaddock Farm, where my g/mother was living when she married, presumably it was owned/run by family members from Islay, probably called McIntyre.

Not sure where I got the name McIntyre from, probably vague memories from childhood conversations among older family members.

It's not too hard to figure out from the above marriage & birth certificates why she was staying at Cornhaddock farm, marriage 06 Mar. 1896, first child born 27 Apr.1896

If you find Drumfrochar Rd., follow it roughly west, you will find Cornhaddock farm on the right hand side, I now stay about half a mile further up the road at Overton.

John
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