Hi Donald,
As well as what you listed I also have the list below which was done by Dr. Brian Thomson at
http://www.Scotsfamily.com, when I started on this research, I felt things were coming together too easily, so I forwarded very basic information to Scots Family, the only difference in what they found, & what I had researched myself, was that they found Angus & Margs. first child born 1804 ?, which I had not found.
The Gavin that Keith talked about, is the same Gavin as listed below, this makes Gavin my great grand uncle, & probably Keiths great great grandfather, I think.
It's probably worth noting, Keith & myself used different professional genealogists, both came up with identical information, dna testing shows a difference of 5/67 between us, if I remember correctly, I'll leave the explanation for that to Kyle or Andrew.
I've also included the bit from Andrew regarding possible relationships between 4 or 5 Livingstone families, I never heard if this has been pursued, note that the bio I have was later proven to be partially inaccurate, the Wiki version is the correct one,
John
1. John Livingstone
b/c 7 Feb 1805, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon, Argyll
fath Angus Livingstone, soldier
moth Margaret Hall/McPhail
m To Agnes Edmiston on 27 Oct 1827, Livingston, West Lothian
occ Wool and Cotton Hand Loom Weaver
d (52) 6 Jul 1858, Kilmeny, Argyll
Agnes Edmiston
b/c abt 1797, Blackburn, Livingston, West Lothian
m To John Livingstone on 27 Oct 1827, Livingston, West Lothian
Births & Baptisms Register 1805 Parish of Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon, County of Argyll
1805. Febry. 7th.
Angus Livingstone in Kilpatrick and Margaret Hall, their lawful son John baptd.
1851 Census – Parish of Kilmeny, County of Argyll
Esknish
Name relation age Marr/unm occupation born
John Livingstone Head 55 Marr Handloom Weaver Argyll, Mull
Agnes Livingstone Wife 54 Marr Blackburn, Linlithgowsh.
Gavine Livingstone Son 16 Unm Apprentice to father Blackburn, Linlithgowsh.
Neil Livingstone Son 9 Confined to bed for years Argyll, Collonsay
Death certificate 1858 Parish of Kilmeny County of Argyll
Livingstone, John, woolen and cotton weaver, married, died on 6th July 1858, at Tirvagan, at age 52 years. Father Angus Livingstone, Chelsea Pensioner (deceased), mother Margt. Livingstone, maiden name McPhail (deceased).
Cause of death: Disease of the Brain, as certified by Alex. Currier, MD who saw him on the 5th July.
Burial place: Burial ground of Kilmeny as certified by his son James Livingstone, the informant.
Informant: James Livingstone, son (present).
John Livingstone and Agnes Edmiston (continued)
1861 Census – Parish of Kilmeny, County of Argyll
3 Tirvagan
Name relation age Marr/
unm occupation born
Agnes Livingstone Head 64 Wid Linlithgowshire, Livingston
John Livingstone Son 28 Unm Wool & Linen Weaver Argyleshire, Colonsay
Andrew Livingston Gr-son 6 Scholar Argyleshire, Kilmeny
Siblings of John Livingstone b 1805
Mary Livingston
b/c 31 Oct 1802, Glasgow
fath Angus Livingston, cotton spinner
moth Margaret Hall
Births & Baptisms Register 1802 Parish of Glasgow , Burgh of Glasgow
Glasgow 31st October 1802. Livingston
Angus Livingston, cotton spinner, & Margaret Hall , a L. daur. Mary bo: 31st. Witn: James McKenzie & Archibald McKinnon.
Betty Livingston
b/c 25 April 1807, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon, Argyll
fath Angus Livingston, ex-soldier
moth Margaret Hall
Births & Baptisms Register 1807 Parish of Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon, County of Argyll
1807. April 25th Baptd.
Angus Livingston, Pensioner in Kilpatrick & Margaret Hall, their lawful Daur. Betty baptd.
Cirsty Livingston
b/c 29 Oct 1809, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon, Argyll
fath Angus Livingstone, ex-soldier
moth Margaret Hall
Births & Baptisms Register 1809 Parish of Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon, County of Argyll
1809. Octr. 29th (Baptd.)
Angus Livingston, Pensioner in Siaba & Margaret Hall, their Lawful Daur. Duncan baptd.
Siblings of John Livingstone b 1805
Duncan Livingston
b/c 30 Sep 1814, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon, Argyll
fath Angus Livingstone, ex-soldier
moth Margaret Hall
Births & Baptisms Register 1814 Parish of Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon, County of Argyll
1814. Septr. 30th (Baptd.)
Angus Livingston, Pensioner in Siaba & Margaret Hall, their Lawful Son Duncan baptd.
(female) Livingston
b/c 29 Sep 1816, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon, Argyll
fath Angus Livingstone, ex-soldier
moth Margaret Hall
Births & Baptisms Register 1816 Parish of Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon, County of Argyll
1816. Septr. 29th (Baptd.)
Angus Livingston, Pensioner in Siaba & Margaret Hall, their Lawful Daur. ____ baptd.
Hugh Livingston
b/c 6 June 1819, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon, Argyll
fath Angus Livingstone, ex-soldier
moth Margaret Hall
Births & Baptisms Register 1819 Parish of Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon, County of Argyll
1819. June 6th (Baptd.)
Angus Livingston, Pensioner in Siaba & Margaret Hall, their Lawful Son Hugh baptd.
Siblings of John Livingstone b 1805
Ann Livingston
b/c 29 Dec 1821, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon, Argyll
fath Angus Livingstone, ex-soldier
moth Margaret Hall
Births & Baptisms Register 1821 Parish of Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon, County of Argyll
1821. Decr. 29 Baptd.
Angus Livingston, Pensioner Siaba & Margaret Hall, their Lawful Daur. Ann baptd.
Jane Livingston
b/c 18 Jan 1829, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon, Argyll
fath Angus Livingstone, ex-soldier
moth Margaret Hall
Births & Baptisms Register 1829 Parish of Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon, County of Argyll
1829. Janry. 18th Baptd.
Angus Livingston, Pensioner Siaba & Margaret Hall, their Lawful Daur. Jane baptd.
2. Sub-group 3. DYS439=11. This one is BEGGING for a family tree explanation. NOTE! 15073 and 127272 form a group within a group with DYS464=15-15-16-17, and they SHARE this with LY9P8N, AND(!) LY9P8N has a family tree link with 15073. So maybe ALL of these have a link to 15073 MORE RECENTLY than the link to LY9P8N. Thinking caps on!!!! Can this be true?
Livingstone 15662 represents a Livingstone family now known to be resident in Australia and Wales. They have a family tradition that their ancestor was a cousin and close friend of Dr. Livingstone. Members of his family held a walking stick and Bible given to them by Dr. Livingstone, but these are said to have stayed in Scotland during the war, and their whereabouts are now unknown. Ysearch for 15662. Keith James Livingstone E942P Maybe from Blantyre?
Livingstone 153356. 67 markers and definitely in this group. This family descends from Miles Livingston b.1775 a boatbuilder and cooper and his second wife Janette Livingston both natives of Morvern Parish in Western Argyllshire in highland Scotland. Miles and Janette left Bowmore, Kilarrow Parish, Isle of Islay in June of 1812 for Lord Selkirk's Settlement at Red River in the Hudson Bay Territory, British North America. In 1815 they settled in Etobicoke Township, York County, Upper Canada(Ontario) and finally in 1819 in Esquesing Township, Halton County, Upper Canada near Acton. Their children and descendants lived in Ontario and Michigan. Lloyd V. Livingston
Livingstone 15073 . 67 markers and definitely in this group. has yet another Dr Livingstone family story, and traces his ancestor's origins to Prince Edward Island (Canada), ultimately originating in Morvern, Scotland. His DNA signature is similar to many of the other R1b participants on average, but none when it comes to exact one-by one comparisons! Donald Duncan Livingstone
Livingstone 127272. 67 markers and definitely in this group. Angus Livingstone married Margaret Hall or McPhail and lived in Mull in the 1700s, around Torosay, Kinlochspelvie, “Drimnatyne comes up quite often”. ( Now known to originate from Shiaba area, pls. ignore previous info stating from Drimnatryne) Then g/g/grandfather John moved to around Whitburn/Blackburn/Livingstone areas of West Lothian, got married and then moved again to Islay. g/grandfather, also John, appears to have stayed on Islay until he died, grandfather, John again, moved to Greenock, where he worked as a carpenter in the local shipyards, until he died around 1928. They lived in Regent St and later Antigua St., Greenock.” John Martin Livingstone