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Duncan Livingston and Christian Beaton of Lettermore, Mull

Postby Canadian Livingstone » Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:53 pm

Around 1821 three Livingston brothers said by kin to be sons of Duncan Livingston and Christian Beaton of Lettermore, Mull,Argyllshire are known to have settled in Dalhousie Township, Lanark County, Upper Canada (Ontario, Canada). They were Duncan Livingston b.1791,John Livingston b. 1792 and Alexander Livingston 1797-1840. Alexander Livingston I discovered is buried in the Highland Line Cemetery in Dalhousie Township, Lanark Township, Ontario and his now broken tombstone states that he is was a native of Mull. Given the sorry state of this pioneer Livingston tombstone of Lanark Settlement in Dalhousie Township one would hope that a descendant someday soon makes some effort to protect the stone from further damage.

Interestingly their father Duncan Livingston has been suggested by some to be an Uncle of Dr. David Livingstone but this has never been proven. I believe that Duncan a resident of Lettermore, Mull was likely in the area when Dr. Livingstone's grandfather lived in Lettermore in the 1770's before Neil Livingstone Sr. moved on to the Isle of Ulva by the late 1770's and is likely related but think he likely was too old to be a son of the grandfather Neil Livingston Sr. given that Dr. Livingstone's grandfather youngest child Neil Jr. born in 1788 was born the same year as Duncan Livingston and Christian Beaton's oldest daughter Jean. It strikes me then that Duncan might have been a brother of the grandfather's or a Livingston cousin of some sort. Dr. Livingstone's older brother JOhn Livingstone 1811-1899 who lived in Lanark Township, Lanark County for several years in the 1840's before resettling around 1860 in Listowel, Ontario probably knew Duncan, John and Alexander of Dalhousie Township, Lanark County, Upper Canada and considered them apparently to be his cousins, though he does not mention the actual family connection regrettably. I suspect by highland line Lanark County Livingstons he was acknowledging that this Livingston family that lived in Letermore, Mull back in Argyllshire were some sort of relation to his Grandfather Neil Lavington who he may have known also lived in the Lettermore, Mull area apparently before moving to the Isle of Ulva where John's father Neil Livingston was born in 1788. There is also the possibility that Duncan may have been a younger brother of Dr. Livingstone's grandfather if not a son of Neil Livingston Sr. John did not refer to Alexander Livingston of highland line, Dalhousie Township as being a first cousin or second cousin just as cousin by which he may not necessarily have meant his first cousin. Lots of Livingstons who had lived in Mull area in the 1800's in highland Argyllshire were likely cousins close and more distant to be sure. But I did note but failed to copy down the exact source at tht time I found it, a newspaper article from the 1870's where Dr. Livingstone's brother John did refer to either Alex or John Livingstone his brother of the highland line, Lanark County being a cousin. Oddly enough it is one article of that nature that I seem to have lost track of. Perhaps someday I may stumble upon it again. Perhaps I wrote it down in some notebook somewhere and may yet relocate mention of the original source. For the time being I can state for certain that Dr. Livingstone's brother in the 1870's when he was being interviewed about his famous brother acknowledged Alexander or John Livingston of the Highland Land in Dalhousie Township, Lanark County, Ontario (I forget which one or the other) he believed was a Livingston cousin. That is all he said about that possible Livingston connection and no mention of how they were connected or the Lettermore connection that revealed by a examination of the Kilninian Parish records of Mull of the 1700's.

I became interested in the Dalhousie Township, Lanark County, Ontario Livingstons as an old Ontario,Canada newspaper article mentioned that John Livingstone (1811-1899) of Listowel,Perth County, Ontario, Canada older brother of Dr. Livingstone had stated in the 1870's to a journalist that he had a cousin named Alexander or John Livingston I forget which whom lived at the highland line of Dalhousie Township, Lanark Township, Ontario. As Dr. Livingstone's brother John Livingstone had lived briefly in Lanark Township, Lanark County,Ontario in the 1840's with his wife Mary Mackenzie when the family first arrived in Canada I had always wondered if he had any family connections to the other Livingston families that settled in Lanark County earlier as pioneers in the 1820's.

In fact some interesting information has emerged regarding the Dalhousie Township Livingstons which seems to possibly link them to Dr. Livingstone and his brother John's family. It is known that three Scottish settlers Alexander, John and Duncan Livingston settled in Dalhousie Township by about 1820/1821 and received land grants from the Government of Upper Canada as they opened up settlement in what was then the Lanark Military settlement in Upper Canada. All three Livingston were assigned land grants in close proximity to one another. Alexander was first located at Concession 11 Lot 5 East in 1820, then John was located at Concession 10 Lot 6 East August 30th 1821 and Duncan Livingston at Concession 9 Lot 7 a few days later on September 1st 1821. After the War of 1812, this part of Upper Canada was opened up to settlement and British settlers, and military veterans were offered 100 acre land grants. In 1820/1821 Scottish weavers and others from Lanarkshire were encouraged to settle in what became Lanark County, Upper Canada and number of them were known to have settled in Dalhousie Township. Many of these Scots who may resided in Lanarkshire or Perthshire Scotland in the lowlands were actually of highland Scot origin in Argyllshire as was the case we have found of all the Livingstons who settled in Lanark County, Upper Canada at this time. We dont precisely where the three Livingstons that settled in Dalhousie Township in 1820/1821 resided at the time they received their 100 acre land grants and it could have been in a lowland county where they were working. We do however have information linking them to highland Livingston family origins.


Based upon what is known of these Dalhousie Township Livingstons by their descendants it would seem most likely that Alexander, John and probably Duncan were brothers and the sons of Duncan Livingston and Christian Beaton of Lettermore, Kilninian parish, Mull. Given that Dr. Livingstone's brother John referred to ALexander and John Livingston of highland line, Dalhousie Township as his "cousins" it is especially interesting that these Livingstons apparently have a Lettermore, Mull connection. It is clear from the Kilninian Parish, Mull baptism records that Dr. Livingtone's grandfather Neil Livingstone and his wife Mary Morrison lived at Lettermore for a few years in the 1770's before moving on the nearby southern shore of the Island of Ulva.

While there has been some speculation in the past regarding the possibility that this Duncan Livingston and Christian Beaton were Dr. Livingstone's and brother John's Uncle and Aunt. This I believe is not the case. The Duncan Livingston who resided at Lettermore in the late 1700's seems to have actually been born much earlier that this in the 1760's at the very least probably given that their eldest known child was born at Lettermore, Mull in the year 1788. This however does not diminish the possibility that Donald Livingston and family of Lettermore, Mull are kin to Dr. Livingstone and his brother John who lived in Canada. But if so then how? The parish records are no help as they dont even indicate that Dr. Livingstone's grandfather Neil Livingson and his wife Mary Morrisson even had a son named Donald. If not a brother of Dr. Livingstone's father could he a younger brother of Dr. Livingstone's Grandfather. THe problem with that scenario is that if you accept Dr. Livingstone's account of his great grandfather, he was killed in 1746 at Culloden then Dr. Livingstone's grandfather could have no younger brother born after 1746. So I am left with a bit a mystery regarding the true nature of the family connection that Dr. Livingstone's brother alluded to in the 1870's, but it seems clear enough that Alexander, John and Duncan are in any event sons of Donald Livingston and Christian Beaton of Lettermore, Mull.

The Kilninian Parish records back in Mull, Argyllshire Scotland indicate that Duncan was the eldest of the sons of Donald Livingston and Christian Beaton born abt. 1791. John was born abt. 1792 a date which seems to be confirmed in the 1851 Dalhousie Township census which records him as age 49. He was married to Catharine. Alexander was born abt. 1797 and does not appear in the Kilninian parish records but is almost certain he is a son of Duncan and Christian Beaton. He died in 1840 in Dalhousie Township and was married to Mary Currie. Alexander is buried in the Highland Line Cemetery in Dalhousie Township, Lanark County, Ontario and is almost certainly the Alexander Livingston that Dr. Livingstone's brother believed was a "cousin". There is or was a cemetery stone in the old Highland Line Cemetery in Dalhousie Township which stated Alexander Livingston died April 11, 1840 Native of Isle of Mull.

There was also a sister Catharine Livingston born abt. 1800 to Donald and Christian Livingston at Lettermore according to the kilninian parish, Mull records who was married to a Duncan Stewart and in 1800's lived near to Alexander and John Livingston in Dalhousie Township. She appears as Catharine Stewart age 50 in the 1851 Dalhousie Township, Lanark County, Ontario residing with husband Duncan and appearing to be neighbours to Alexander Livingston's widow Mary and her son Duncan Livingston Farmer. Presumingly the younger Duncan was named after his grandfather back in Lettermore, Mull.

Known Children of Donald Livingston and Christian Beaton of Lettermore, Mull
Jean [Janet] (bap) 26 Nov 1788 d. Feb.9,1864 Brock, Ontario married Neil McNeil b. Oct. 28,1786 Mull d. June 28,1870 Brock, Ontario
Duncan (bap) 15 Apr 1791 - ?
John (bap) 22 Aug 1792 - ? married Catharine Sinclair
Alexander born abt. 1796 in Lettermore, Mull? d. April 11, 1840 m. Mary Currie b. abt. 1795 at Bailibeg, Strachur, Argyllshire d.
Catherine (bap) 10 Sep 1800 -? m. Duncan Stewart

Despite what some later published Canadian genealogy information regarding Duncan, John and Alexander arriving at Quebec in 1821 with other Livingstons aboard the David of London, interestingly the original passenger list (PRO CO 42/189 ff 512-69) which includes the nine lowland Emigration societies that were aboard the David of London does not list the Duncan, Alexander or John Livingston that settled in Dalhousie Township. I checked the original list and the children of Duncan Livingston and Chistian Beaton that arrived about 1821 in Lanark County do not appear to have been passengers aboard the David of London and with the other Livingstons from Perthshire on that boat traveling to Canada who also settled in Lanark County in 1821.



1. Alexander Livingstone arrived Quebec with wife summer of 1821. Located at Lot 5FE, Con. 11, Dalhousie Twp., Lanark County, Ontario.
2. Duncan & John Livingstone, both departed Greenock, Scotland on board the ship David of London, 19 May 1821?, for Dalhousie Twp. ( Note: Duncan and John Livingstone and other family members are not listed on the list that saw of persons in the the Emigration Societies aboard the David lot London in 1821.)
Duncan was accompanied by his wife & 6 children, John by his wife.
3. Catherine Livingstone from Isle of Mull to Lanark County 1850, moved to Perth County 1852, & married Duncan Stewart

Catharine and her husband Duncan Stewart were neighbours of her brother Alexander Livingston and his wife Mary Currie in Dalhousie Township, Lanark County, Ontario, Canada. After Alexander Livingston died in 1840, his son Duncan took over the farm with his mother Mary. Alexander and Catharine;s brother JOhn and his wife Catharine are also living on a farm not far from them. Alexander, John and Catharine also had a brother Duncan who settled with them in 1820 or 1821 in Dalhousie Township but I dont know what became of him. He is not in 18511852 census only his nephew Duncan Livingston son of late Alexander According a descendant of Duncan and Catherine Stewart, Alexander, John, DUncan Livingston and Mrs Duncan Stewart were all children of Duncan Livingston and Christian Beaton of Lettermore, Kilninian Parish, Mull. From the information I have looked at I believe she is correct.

John Livingstone found some info on Jean Livingston, suggesting that Donald and Christian's eldest child Jean Livingston b. 1788 also settled in
Ontario:
"I've come across another probable daughter, Jean b. abt. 1788, who married Neil McNeil, b. abt 1786 at Kilninian & Kilmore, Mull, no marriage date available at present.
They had four or five children born at Kilninian & Kilmore, the last child listed, Hugh was baptised on 19 March 1823, religion Presbyterian at Perth, Lanark, Ontario."

More info that was found by John Livingstone:
The reference ICS refers to "Immigration: Canada from Scotland." Selected records in the Ontario Department of Public Records and Archives (not The Archives of Ontario, 77 Grenville Street, Queen's Park, Toronto, M7A 2K9. Reel 154.

The reference CLP refers to Upper Canada Land Petitions: Perth Military Settlement, 24. Manuscript material in the National Archives of Canada, 395 Wellington Street, Ottawa, ONT, K1A 0N3,. Microfilm reel C-2739, RG1, L3, vols. 420-422. Researchers at the Archives should consuld Finding Aid 1802.

1879 CURRIE, Daniel. To Quebec on the Earl of Buchinghamshire, ex Greenock, 28 Apr 1821, in assoc with the Paisley Townhead Emig Soc. Loc Lanark Co, ONT. First slmt advance to him paid 1 Aug. ICS-6

4309 LIVINGSTON, Alexander, Arr Quebec with wife, summer, 1821; loc 5 NOv, Lot 5FE, Con 11, Dalhousie Twp, Lanark Co, ONT. ICS-2

4315 LIVINGSTON, Duncan. To Quebec on the David of London, ex Greenock, 19 May 1821; stld Dalhousie Twp, Lanark Co, ONT. Wife and 6 ch with him. CLP 421

4320 LIVINGSTON, John. To Quebec, prob on the David of London, ex Greenock, 19 May 1821; loc Dalhousie Twp, Lanark Co, ONT, with his wife. CLP 421

4327 LIVINGSTONE, Catherine. From Is Mull, ARL. To Lanark Co, ONE, <1850. MOved <1852 to Pewrth Co. m Duncan Stewart, qv. OGF 28, 123,

Donald,

Some more on same subject,

Livingston entries in Directory oif Scottish Settlers in North America 1625-1825

1821 , Greenock Scotland to Lanark Co., Ontario, Canada

"Directory oif Scottish Settlers in North America 1625-1825" by David Dobson, Volume V, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore. On page 142 is the following:

LIVINGSTON, ALEXANDER

Emigrated from Scotland, with his wife, to Canada. Received a land grant in Dalhousie, Upper Canada, on 5 November 1821. (PAO)

LIVINGSTON, DUNCAN

Emigrated from Scotland, with wife, three sons and three daughters, to Canada on the David of London in June 1821. Received a land grant in Dalhousie, Upper Canada, on 1 September 1821. (PAO)

LIVINGSTON, WILLIAM

Emigrated from Scotland, with wife and son, to Canada on the David of London in June 1821. Received a land grant in Lanark, Upper Canada, on 9 September 1821, and on 24 March 1822. (PAO)

PAO = Public Archives of Ontario,

John

Regarding the Dalhousie Township, Lanark County, Ontario Livingstons, Section 62 and 63 of Volume 421 list settlers who are in the process of patent on their land grant after having done the required clearing of the land and residing on it for a while. The first collection is dated January 1, 1825 and tells us that Alex's brother John Levingston is located on Concession 10, Lot 6 east 100 acres and that Alex's brother Duncan Levingston is located Concession 9 Lot 7 West 100 acres and Alex's brother in law, Duncan Stewart Concession 11 Lot 5 W. in Dalhousie Township and in 63 dated December 27, 1824 we find listed ALexander Levingston at Concession 11 Lot 5 west 100 acres and an unknown Hugh Levingston Concession 9 Lot 6w 100 acres Dalhousie Township. (Hugh might be another brother or relative of Alex, Duncan and John but I was not aware of him.) So what this land info tells us is that they were all located a few years earlier in close proximity to one another in the Lanark Military Settlement. I also noticed at the end of 62 and 63 and with the lists of these particular settlers indicates that "the persons recorded on this list had not belonged to Societies of Emigration from Lanarkshire Scotland."
So that saved me alot of trouble trying to locate them with a Glasgow or some other emigration society based in Lanarkshire. They also as I mentioned to not show on the many surviving lists of other Emigration societies that were included in the 1821 arrivals. So did come directly from Mull by boat with a Mull group of settlers and are on a surviving passenger list. That seems to be the case. As I have access to a copy of the original David of London Passenger list from the May 1821 voyage that William Livingston of Lanark Township, Ontario was on I am quite certain the Mull Livingstons were not aboard it with him. I think what has happened is that some one a long time ago researching Lanark County Livingsons just assumed as they all arrived around 1821 that they were together on the same boat. Certainly both Volume 421 and the other Scottish records collection that Donald Whyte referenced in his books does not state what ship they were passengers actually. Your point that one entry states only "probably on the David of London is correct.

In any event there may not be many descendants around the area today. Before 1824 we had Alexander on 11-5 W, Hugh on 9-6w, John on 10-6 e and Duncan on 9-7w in close proximity to each other. Studying the deed abstract for Dalhousie Township and the 1842 Dalhousie Township Census it is clear Duncan sold his lot in 1827 and Hugh's lot ended up in the hands of John Levington with Hugh disappearing from scene and is not listed in the 1842 Census in Dalhousie Township. So by the time of the 1842 Census only the brother John still living in the area and a son of Alexander is present with ALexander deceased and his wife Mary Currie living with Alexander's son Duncan. Alexander' son Duncan sells the farm in 1864 and that seems to be the end of that family in the area. And John Livingston and his wife Catharine sell their farm in Dalhousie Township at Concession 9 Lot 6 in 1873. It may well explain why I only found pioneer Alexander Livingston's 1840 gravestone in the old Highland Line Scottish pioneer cemetery in Dalhousie Township in a number of pieces but still quite legible for its age but none of his brothers.

regards,

Donald

If I have it correctly, Alex's son Duncan took over the farm after his father died, and according to the 1852 Canada West Census for Dalhousie Township, Lanark County resided on the family farm with his mother Mary and his younger brother Hugh born abt. 1833 or 1834 in Canada and subsequently Duncan in 1864 sold the farm in Dalhousie Township, Lanark County. A descendant of Alexander Livingston and Mary Currie has found information indicating that after the farm in Dalhousie Township was sold by Alex's son Duncan, he and his family and his mother Mary Livingston ended up in 1866 in Minnesota where Mary died in 1869. Mary's husband Alexander Livingston died in 1840 at the age of 43 and here is photo of his broken gravestone in Highland Cemetery in Dalhousie Township, Lanark Township, Ontario.

Photo of Alexander Livingston's broken tombstone in Highland Line Cemetery in Dalhousie Township, Lanark Township, Ontario
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... =59369471&

Here is the earliest census info from the 1852 Canada West (Ontario) records, Dalhousie Township, Lanark Township
This is written as it was recorded on the original census page. I have the original census page somewhere on file.
Christina McKellar age 23 ( these must be from the McKellar family you mentioned)
Donald McKellar age 3
Duncan Livingston age 21 Farmer (son of Alexander Livingston)
Mary Livingston age 50 (widow of Alexander Livingston)
Hugh Livingston age 18 (son of Alexander Livingston)
Duncan Stewart age 56 Farmer
Catharine Stewart age 50 (Alex Livingston's sister)
Dugald Stewart age 23
Duncan Stewart age 21
Euphemia Stewart age 19
Angus Stewart age 14
Alex Stewart age 11
James Stewart age 8
The information below provided by a descendant of Alexander Livingston and Mary Currie indicates that Alexander's widow Mary Livingston and her son Duncan and his family left Dalhousie Township, Lanark County, Ontario in 1866 and settled in Faribault County, Minnesota and that Mary died there in 1869.
From a descendant of Alexander Livingston 1796-1840 and Mary Currie
From the Perth Courier, issue March 26, 1869 (Perth, Lanark County, Ontario, Canada): "DEATH - Suddenly, 31 January, 1869 in the Twp. of Jo Davis, Faribault Cty., Minn., Mary CURRIE, widow of the late Alexander LIVINGSTONE, aged 73 years. A native of Argyll, Scotland, she came to Canada in 1822 and resided in Dalhousie Twp., Lanark Cty. until 1866 when she moved to Minnesota."
This might indicate that Duncan Livingston and family (inlcuding his mother Mary, who was living with them at the 1861 cenus, cited in previous messages) relocated to southern Minnesota in 1866.
In support of this, I did locate a US Land Grant of July 1870, to a Duncan Livingston, in Faribault County, MN.
Nevertheless, I do suspect Duncan died shortly afterwards -- and his wife Euphemia was probably dead by 1871 as well, given that sons Alex and John landed with aunts back in Perth Co., Ontario.

From a descendant of Alexander Livingston 1796-1840 and Mary Currie
I assume witness John Livingston was Alexander's brother (b. about 1792), married to Catherine Sinclair, and still residing in Lanark County in the 1861 census. There were 9 children in this family, but I have not traced their descendents. (I have no proof they were brothers.) Other witnesses were relations: Donald McKellar was married to his wife's aunt, Duncan Stewart was Alexander's brother-in-law. Jean Livingston (also believed to be a sister of Alexander) was married to a Neil McNiel (also of Mull), so the witness Donald McNiel may also be a relation. The John Currie mentioned was almost certainly the brother of Alexander's wife, Mary.

Unrelated to the will questions you raised -- but relevant to this thread: I've been unable to trace Alexander's widow (Mary Currie Livingston) or his son Duncan (b. about 1831) (and wife Effie/Euphemia) beyond the 1861 census. I believe the index to the 1871 census entry for a Duncan who died in the year preceding the census is for *this* Duncan, and that death was recorded in the Hibbert Twsp., Perth County census. He didn't necessarily die there, but this is where Duncan's sisters Barbara Purdon and Christina McKellar lived -- and Duncan's sons Alex and John appear to have been split up and are each in one aunt's household. I have to assume that Duncan and his wife and mother all died by 1871. Alex (born 1861) and John (born 1863) are difficult to trace beyond 1871 as well, so perhaps descendents of their will find this forum!

Two new leads on the family of Alexander Livingston(e) of Dalhousie, Lanark County.

Via an older posting to an online bulletin board (for Faribault Co., Minnesota), I found this quotation of a death notice from the Perth Courier (Lanark Co., Ontario):

Tue May 27 22:53:45 1997
From the Perth Courier, issue March 26, 1869 (Perth, Lanark County, Ontario, Canada): "DEATH - Suddenly, 31 January, 1869 in the Twp. of Jo Davis, Faribault Cty., Minn., Mary CURRIE, widow of the late Alexander LIVINGSTONE, aged 73 years. A native of Argyll, Scotland, she came to Canada in 1822 and resided in Dalhousie Twp., Lanark Cty. until 1866 when she moved to Minnesota."
This might indicate that Duncan Livingston and family (inlcuding his mother Mary, who was living with them at the 1861 cenus, cited in previous messages) relocated to southern Minnesota in 1866.
In support of this, I did locate a US Land Grant of July 1870, to a Duncan Livingston, in Faribault County, MN.
Nevertheless, I do suspect Duncan died shortly afterwards -- and his wife Euphemia was probably dead by 1871 as well, given that sons Alex and John landed with aunts back in Perth Co., Ontario.

Hopefully this information, thrown together here as it is by me, will be of some help in the future to a descendant of Alexander Livingston or the other children of Donald Livingston and Christian Beaton of Lettermore, Mull who settled in Lanark County, Upper Canada in the 1820's and some of whom moved later to Perth County, Upper Canada.

I would seriously like to look into seeing if a descendant could save Lanark County, Ontario pioneer settler Alexander Livingston's broken tombstone circa 1840 and possibly get it repaired and placed upright, but there may not be any descendants still in the area of Lanark County, Ontario. In time with the stone lying on the ground, the inscription will fade away to nothing.

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Re: Duncan Livingston and Christian Beaton of Lettermore, Mu

Postby jae47 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:21 am

Thank you for this helpful summary of your best understand of the Mull-to-Dalhousie Livingstons. (Sorry I didn't find it for over a year!)

I agree with your conclusions -- but just a few comments:

Once in a while you have a typo and refer to (patriarch) Duncan Livingston and "Donald". (As in Duncan Livingston and Christian Beaton of Lettermore, Isle of Mull -- "Donald" slips in now and then.)

I recently encountered some ancestry.com trees that tie a Duncan Livingston who died in Glencoe, Grey, South Australia in 1867, age 77, to this Mull family (as a sun of Duncan L. and Christian Beaton). The trees give no supporting evidence or helpful notes, and I have no reason to believe they are accurate. Users may have just linked up to any Duncan Livingston online record they could find. However, it does remind us we don't know much of anything about the Duncan from the Kilninian (Mull) parish baptisms, or the one who settled in Dalhousie and disappeared from the record in the 1820s.

Another researcher recently sent me a note that raised the question: Could the Duncan Livingston that settled in Dalhousie Twsp. near John and Alexander actually be their father? He was listed as arriving with several children reportedly over 12 years of age. It is possible he and Christian Beaton could have had more children after 1800 -- or that he could have married a younger second wife after 1800. It's an interesting possibility that I hadn't considered. (The absence of OPR death records is such a frustration!) With the known Livingston sisters (McNeil and Stewart) also settling nearby, it's tempting to think the entire family, including parents over 50, emigrated together.

Food for thought.

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Re: Duncan Livingston and Christian Beaton of Lettermore, Mu

Postby Canadian Livingstone » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:05 pm

Hi James,
Nice to hear from you again. Hope you had a good Easter.
Quite possibly other family researchers may have speculated also in the past that Duncan Sr. and and his wife also left Mull along with their children for Upper Canada in the 1820's, but I myself have not seen any such speculation or any information from old family researchers to support that possibility. A livingston researcher in Ontario not related to this Lettermore Mull family but who had been given some old research notes from and old descendant of one of the sons or the daughter of Duncan Livingston and Christian Beaton sent me the old notes and I looked though it for any info I was not aware of and filed it away somewhere and am not sure where i put it. Hopefully a major spring cleaning someday may help to turn it up once again. As you can imagine I have a lot of family research files pertaining to Livingstons and other related families I did years earlier. I try to transfer most of the most important details on to the computer so one way or another the essential info is easily available and not lost. But from time to time something goes missing.

There are no death records that I know to prove what became of the parents Duncan Livingston and Christian Beaton his wife after the children left Lettermore in N.W. Mull in the 1820's, but as far as I know from one old relative of whom research info was passed on to me, she apparently found no info that the father and mother joined them In Lanark County, Ontario. As far I know the Duncan who received a land grant in the 1820's near to John and Alexander Livingston son of Duncan Livingston and Christian Beaton is there brother Duncan who according to Mull Kilninian Parish records was the son of Duncan Livingston and Christian Beaton baptized in 1791 while the family were residing at Lettermore, Mull. I am reasonably certain that the Duncan Livington who received land nearby to JOHn and Alexander and Hugh? was their brother.

Yes whatever happened to poor Duncan and also who was this Hugh Livingston who also received land with Alex, John and Duncan at th Highland Line in Dalhousie Township, Lanark County. Was he an unknown son of Duncan and Christian Livingston? All I know is that he received his lot near to the others and then John Livingston ended up with is land. So assume from that John took possession of land that had been his brother Hugh, but there is no surviving baptism record indicating there was a brother Hugh but then again there is no surviving baptism record for Alexander Livingston of Highland line in Dalhousie township either just to be clear on that. So no one really knows what became of either Duncan or apparently this largely unknown son Hugh?

Known Children of Donald Livingston and Christian Beaton of Lettermore, Mull
Jean [Janet] (bap) 26 Nov 1788 d. Feb.9,1864 Brock, Ontario married Neil McNeil b. Oct. 28,1786 Mull d. June 28,1870 Brock, Ontario
Duncan (bap) 15 Apr 1791 - ?
John (bap) 22 Aug 1792 - ? married Catharine Sinclair
Alexander born abt. 1796 in Lettermore, Mull? d. April 11, 1840 m. Mary Currie b. abt. 1795 at Bailibeg, Strachur, Argyllshire d.
Catherine (bap) 10 Sep 1800 -? m. Duncan Stewart

Duncan Livingston was located on Con.9 Lot 7 100 acres around the same time as his two brothers Alexander and John were located on their lots in Dalhousie Township, Lanark County, Upper Canada. Before 1824 we had Alexander on 11-5 W, Hugh on 9-6w, John on 10-6 e and Duncan on 9-7w in close proximity to each other. Studying the deed abstract for Dalhousie Township and the 1842 Dalhousie Township Census it is clear Duncan sold his lot in 1827 and Hugh's lot ended up in the hands of John Levington with Hugh disappearing from scene and is not listed in the 1842 Census in Dalhousie Township. By the 1851 Census, Alexander has been deceased for more than 10 years and Duncan the mysterious brother apparently left Dalhousie Township around 1827 a few years after he received his lot. I wonder what happened to him.

Early on here at the forum, I discussed the notion that the family of Duncan Livingston and Christian Beaton that settled in the 1820's in Dalhousie Township, Lanark County along with mentioning other Livingstons that settled in the 1820's throughout Lanark County. I made the mistake of the not later clarifying that while Dr. Livingstone mentioned that there were some relatives in Lanark County, comments by his brother suggest that these related Livigstons were the Livingstons that settled at the Highland line, Dalhousie Township, Lanark County, Upper Canada. I was at the time speculating on what Dr. Livingstone had said in an old letter that some Livingston relatives located themselves in Lanark County by which he means prior to his brother's arrival there in the early 1840's. By 1860 the brother moved to LIstowel in Perth County. I noticed since my earliest mention of the comment by Dr. Liviingstone in the 1850's of some Livingston relatives located in Lanark County, Upper Canada, that it has been assumed apparently by many of the original Livingston families that settled in Lanark County are possibly related to Dr. LIvingstone. Actually i think I need to clarify with folks doing their Perth County Livingston family research that I pretty certain that the family connection likely only pertains the descendants of the sons and a daughter of Duncan Livingston and Christian Beaton of Lettermore, Mull whose children settled in Dalhousie County, Lanark County, Upper Canada an not those other LIvingstons that settled elsewhere in Lanark County in 1821 who originated from Perthshire, Scotland. That includes William Livingston and his wife Isabella Bremner. Two of their Livington descendants have done a familytreedna test and distantly related to my own Livingston relatives and are no DNA match to a documented relative of a brother of Dr. Livingstone. None of the other Livingston families that settled in Lanark County in the 1820's with Perthshire origins are likely related to Dr. Livingstone. I probably should have made this clear as a followup to the early posting of this subject some years ago now. I should try and make it clear to any Livingston historians that neither Dr. Livingstone or his brother John ever stated that all Livingston families that settled in Lanark County, Upper Canada were related to them. I think Dr. Livingstone's brother john later clarified this when he referred specifically to one of the "highland Line" Livingstons of Dalhousie Township in Lanark County being a "cousin". Dr. Livingstone's brother in the 1870's mentioned either Alex or his brother John I forget which. Alex of course was long since dead by the 1870's.


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