Possible connection to the Livingston's of New York

[Greg Livingston]

I am continually amazed at how great Donald, Roberta Ann, Jewel and Kyle are at following genealogical trails. Of course, it is always easier if you know the right tools to use. For myself, those I know of I can’t afford at this time and Google along with other free sites don’t seem to help much.

According to family lore, we are related to the Livingston’s of New York. I’ve been able, along with an Aunt from my Grandfather’s second family, to get back to Pennsylvania and a Livingston born in 1810. Just don’t know how accurate that is though.

Here is what we have at this time starting with my Grandfather:

Harry Maurice Livingston, b 4 Apr 1900 Mountain Grove, MO, d 26 June 1968 Marshalltown, IA

GGF James Henry Livingston, b 9 Aug 1863 Davenport, IA, d 14 Jan 1952 Sentinel, OK
GGM Mable Claire Beazley, b 19 July 1870 Columbia, MO, d 18 June 1954 Sentinel, OK

GGGF James Daniel Livingston, b 1833 PA, d 1918
GGGM Lucy Ann Byrum, b 1831 KY, d 1902

GGGGF William W. Livingston, b 1810 PA?, d 1861?
GGGGM Nancy Jane Large, b 12 Oct 1808 PA, d 1852 PA

Like I said, I am not sure about William but James H and James D I am very sure about. Any assistance or guidance to confirm and move past this would be most appreciated.

[Jewel]

Hello Gregg,

I'll take what you have here and see what I can come up with.

Jewel

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Greg,

We have a great team. Everyone rolls up their sleeves and pitches in.

Jewel and Roberta have access to alot of U.S and Canadian records, they may be able to help you and I consider them experts in this area of the Livingston research. Very quickly this is what I have on your family Greg:
1880 US Census
Jefferson, Shelby County, Missouri
James Livingston 47 Farmer b.PA Parents born PA
Lucy Livingston 48 b.KY Parents born Ky
John W Livingston 18 b.PA
James H.Livingston 17 b.KY
Lewis F. Livingston 15 b.IA
Amanda Livingston 13 b.Mo
Mary Livingston 11 b. Mo
Nettie Livingston 6 b.Mo
Robert Livingston 4 b. Mo

Have you already searched the Pennsylvania Census records from 1790 to 1860? If not that would be next step. That is obvious where the earliest infomation on your Livingston family is located.I assume from this census information that James and Lucy left Pennsylvania about 1863 for Kentucky and moved around a bit after that until ending up in Missouri by about the late 1860's.

Pennsylvania I always find tricky because some of the Livingstons there are not Scottish but of 18th century German palentine or Wuerttemburg origin, but of course unless you really have access to a detailed history of the family and local settlement history you really have to dig deeply to discover this fact. On the other hand you could have Livingstons of Scotch Irish or highland origin that settled in Pennsylvania in the 1700's and 1800's and of course some of lowland Livingston ancestry connected to Robert Livingston of Livingston Manor, New York. You really have to carefully look at each family and try to see if there any clues available as to their Livingston origins. Very tricky those Pennsylvania Livingstons.

regards,

Donald

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Jewel,

Any chance there is a William Livingston b. abt. 1810 his wife Nancy Livingston in the Pennsylvania census of 1850 with a son James born abt. 1834 or 1833?

regards,

Donald

[Jewel]

Hi Donald,

I'm only finding a James Livingston with wife name Nancy in the early census. So I will have to go back and look again as we are looking for a William W. Livingston and wife Nancy. Unless Gregg might be wrong about the first name.

Here is the 1870 census for Missouri

James Livingston age 38 b. PA.
Lucy 38 b. Kentucky
John 8 b. Mo.
James 6 b. Iowa
Lewis 5, b.Iowa
Mary 4 b. Mo.
Jane 1 b. Mo.

Also found James Henry Livingston with wife, Mable living in Mo. with children in 1900.


Also saw the 1880 census for James H. b. 1863 parents James and Lucy. But this one states James b. 1863 was born. Kentucky, which must be an error on the census taker.

Jewel

[Jewel]

Hi Gregg,

Here we have William W. Livingston with family in the 1850 census for Jefferson TWP. Alegheny county, Pennsylvania, All born Pennsylvania.

William W. Livingston age 40
Nancy 41
Mary 19
James D. 17
Nancy J. 13
William L. 10
Hannah M. 6

Ok now let see what I can find in the 1820 census for Pennsylvania and see what we have here.

Jewel

[Jewel]

Hi Gregg,

For the 1820 census for Pennsylvania there were no LivingstonE spelling, for the spelling Livingston there were no Williams listed but there was one James and one listed for Mr. Livingston.

For the spelling Levingston there were 2 William's listed for Pennsylvanis in 1820

1. Merser County, Lackawannock, PA.
William Levingston in household were, 3 M. 0-9,2 M. 10-15, 1 M.26-44 for the Females: 1,0-9, 1, 10-15, 1,16-25, 1, 26-44


2. This William is in Potter, Centre County, Pa.
William Levingston: Males: 1,0-9, 2,10-15, 1, 45 & over. Females: 3,0-9, 2, 16-25, 1, 26-45.


Jewel

[Greg Livingston]

Jewel, WOW... It took us more years to get to the same place you got to in just a a few hours! Where we have problems is going past William.

[Roberta Ann]

Hi Greg;

Nancy Large b.c. 1810 d/o John Large b. Dec. 15, 1759 in Huntington, New Jersey and Nancy Lowe b. August 1769 in Pennsylvania. Nancy Livingston died c. 1888.

The Large Family Industrious and Patriots Pioneers of Jefferson
John Large 1759-1850
Samuel Large 1711-1765
Jonathan Large 1794-1862

William W. Livingston s/o James D. Livingston b.c. 1786 and Sarah Forsyth b. Jan. 1, 1789 in Mifflin Twp., Allegheny, Pa.
James D. and Sarah married Feb. 28, 1805.

I have to go out will look more when I come back home.

Regards;

Roberta

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Jewel and Roberta,

Was William in the 1840 Census did you notice and if so where was living at that time? He was likely married around 1830 but may or may not be recorded as a householder in 1830. If so not likely with children. In the 1840 Census he may have 1 female between 26 and 45, 1 male between 26 and 45, 2 females 0 to 9, 1 male 0 to 9 (or 2?) Something like perhaps. See any William Livingston or Levingston that has a breakdown something like that. If so that is probably the William Livingston we are looking for in 1840. I am not certain the second son age 10 in 1850 will show up in the 1840 census but probably will if so then there will be two sons listed.

regards,

Donald