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RLivingstone
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Livingstone Descendants Book

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When my dad passed, there a book that he had that I wanted but my brother took it. It was supposedly a history of the Livingstone's..... the cover was dark red, paperbound and it was just stapled together. I know it's a long shot but does anyone remember seeing a book about Livingstone's that looked like this? He passed in 2003 and I have no idea how long he had it.
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Hi R Livingstone,
Not sure which book that would be.
I don't know of a Red and white book on the History of the Livingstones/Livingston written prior to 2003 and which contain family trees. The only published books detailing a Livingston family group which one or both contain detailed family trees I know of were two written by Edwin Brockholst Livngston and published in the early 1920's but they focus very narrowly on a number of Livngston family branches connected to the the Old lowland Aristocratic Callendar Stirlingshire County Scottish families and one connected to a family member Robert Livingston who settled in New York a became a wealthy landowner in that colony during the Reign of Charles the second in the 1600's, all a part of the old aristocratic lowland Callendar Stirlingshire County family. Before 2003 there were some very small accounts of the history of our Clan highland Maclea Livingstones in some highland clan related publications but no book dedicated solely to Livingston family history with family trees that I am aware published before 2003. Often people doing genealogy self publish a family history book and include family trees and have it professionally soft cover bound and get a few copies printed and they often don't do a second printing make them very scarce. I really can't say what Livingston book your Father had and where it came from unfortunately.

Regarding your own ancestor William Livingston I have noticed a few Livingstons on the ancestry.com have shared some family trees which include your ancestor William Livingston but I don't see that any them really seem to be certain who William Livingston's parents were with some speculation with a few that William's father was one of the wealthy 19th century Ontario Livingstons who was involved in a wealthy flax business. I did research this William Livingston son of the Livingston connected to the flax business and definitely is not your ancestor William Livingston. He was residing in Canada according to census records long after your ancestor was in America for one thing. So I think we have to rule him out. I did however check that out wanting to leave stone unturned in my search for ancestor of William Livingston. I notice actually that many of those who mention your ancestor William Livngston your family most of them if I recall correctly did not have much info on all of William and his wife's children that we were looking at. I was of course hoping that some distant relative of yours might have posted some plausible info regarding who William's parents were on their ancestry. com Livingston family trees but in reality I did regretably not find that to be the case when I looked at the Livingston family tree submissions with your ancestor William Livingston mentioned. Most Livingston family trees aren't published in books but if one is looking for Livingston family trees pertaining to their Livingston ancestors if they have membership access to ancestry.com then would be very wise to do so.

regards,
Donald
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Donald,

Long time, no post.

Regarding your response above this, if you were referring to Peter Livingston and his wife Janet Riddle (Canadian flax empire), I'm aware
that he is not my Livingstone. I received information from his great granddaughter that they originated from the Lowlands and the dates for their William and my William, were totally not the same. Not even close.

As previous stated elsewhere within this forum, I'm proven to be from the Livingstones and Cameron's in and around Cape Breton, Nova Scotia.
My DNA test reveled 46% Scottish, with a breakdown of the Scottish Highlands & Hebrides, with a further breakdown of the Southwest Scottish Highlands. I have discovered more than a few ancestors from the Isle of Mull and surrounding areas. My most recent Livingstone's are from Nova Scotia though. With research on Ancestry, Family Search and a few obscure websites, I have found my great grandfather William Livingstone to have parents Neil Livingstone born 1805 Isle of Mull, passed 1858 Mull River, NS and Ann Cameron born 1828 River Denys, NS, passed 1903 Mabou, NS. Williams siblings were Allan (who passed young) and Catherine. Ann remarried after Neil Livingstone passed, to Laughlin McDonald and had 7 more children with Laughlin.

I have yet to discover what happened to my great grandfather William Livingstone. It was passed down through family I have discovered that William supposedly passed in a train accident when his only daughter, Ethel Katherine Livingstone, was a baby. Trying to track down that specific record or article mentioning this accident and him in it, has been a needle in a haystack situation that is still ongoing.

As frustrating as it is sometimes, it is something I will never give up on. The answers are out there waiting to be discovered.

Rene' Livingstone
Montana
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Rene'
Welcome back. I understand the frustrations of having only part of the story on an ancestor. My big road block was trying to find out anything about my 4th great grandfather. Donald and I started on him back in about 2012 and couldn't find much. We gave up after about 3 months but got started again this past February. We stumbled on another J. D. Livingston but some of the information was different. Then Donald hit the jack pot when he realized that we had the middle name and birth year wrong. This led to his father. more of his siblings, and that he and his older siblings were all born in County Antrim, Ireland. Sometimes a break from doing the research is all you need to open things up.

The book you mentioned above, do you know the title and/or author? I have some books, not on Livingston's, that are bound like that but were privately published and hard to find, not necessarily published through "normal" sources. Is is possible for you to borrow that book and maybe make some copies?
Greg Livingston
Clan Commissioner
Ankeny, Iowa, USA
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I am also after information on not a Livingstone but a John Stewart, please see below email that I have copied and pasted to the forum

" I am trying to find my relative's father, my relative is Duncan Stewart b 1795, I believe he may be the son of John Stewart by a previous marriage. John Stewart married Mary Livingstone b 14.5.1781 at Bachuil, John Stewart b 5 March 1776 at Bachuil married Lismore Appin and Duror 1/7/1800

In my records which I found in Scotlands People are a John Stewart who married Mary McViccar and have Duncan Stewart (who I believe is related to me) on 8.2.1795, Archibald Stewart 8.10.1797, parish of Inveraray and Glenaray, I believe Mary McViccar - Mary Stewart died in 1799.

Do you have any records relating to the above?

My cousin Brian Stewart did his DNA Y700 and he is a match to Niall of Bachuil, he is also the same haplogroup which is managed by Andrew Lancaster. Also a match to Brian is a Alan Grant Livingstone who has the same names in his tree as is the birth records of Ardnamurchan, Given that John Stewart had a son called Duncan the same year as our relative, I feel this is the direction I should be going in."

My question is also, are there any family records that may confirm or not confirm the above?


Regards Jeanette Seeds
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Hi Rene,

I don't know for certain but I think it might help if you provide me a simple Livingstone ancestral line starting with your most recent Livingston ancestor grandfather great grandfather etc with his wife and their birth death and marriage info back generation by generation as far as you can go just to refresh my memory regarding your Livingston family connection.
Yes definitely the "lowland" Livingstons from Lanarkshire who settled in Ontario who were became wealthy in the flax business in Ontario are not connected ancestrally to those Mull Argyllshire Livingstons who settled in Nova Scotia.

regards,
Donald (Livingstone) Clink
Historian
Clan Maclea Livingstone Society
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Re: Livingstone Descendants Book

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HI Jeanette,

I am not familiar with a Stewart family connection with the Bachuil Livingstones and don't have any research info on that would be of help to you but it is interesting to learn that DNA testing has revealed a family connection.

regards,

Donald (Livingstone) Clink
Historian
Clan Maclea Livingstone Society
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