McLea name variant -- a new one

[Kyle2 MacLea]

I did -- there are some Mickleas around on the Net, but I haven't had the chance to contact them yet.

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Kyle, There is some variance in the pattern and the arrangement of the tartan, but the old McColl and Livingstone tartan ir remarkably similar. I can't say whether prior to the Battle of Culloden who was wearing red and green tartan in battle, but it is noted that in 1704 the Laird of the Grant Clan requested that his tenants wear red and green tartan with broad strips in battle, perhaps indicating that red and green was considered by a number of clans as appropriate colours to include in a tartan worn in battle. Although the British banned the tartan for many years after the Battle of Culloden, and much of the tartan weaving tradition was lost and forgotten, fragments worn at the Battle of Culloden were known to have been saved and survived years later and were an inspiration for the patterns for later Clan tartans. Anyways food for thought Kyle for another time. regards Donald

[Kyle2 MacLea]

Well, the thought that there might have been tartan "remnants" from an earlier time which were used in the development of 'modern' tartans, even if there are not precisely family-defined, is a very interesting one.

[James Stewart McLay]

Thanks Kyle, I will put something together and post it on the site shortly. I will also contact Jill Larsen at the G. & W. of S. Society. Thanks again for the lead. Stewart.

[Kyle2 MacLea]

Great, James!

[Keith Livingstone Australia]

Apparently my ancestor Angus Livingstone was recorded on an OPR at one stage as "Livingston, or McGilvra". That's a new one, isn't it?

[Bachuil]

There are Macgillivray and variant spellings around Oban, Lismore and Mull.

[Kyle2 MacLea]

Dear Keith, When did the OPR list Livingston or McGilvra?

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Kyle, Regarding the highland tartan makers of the 17th and 18th century using vegetable based dyes from a variety of roots, plants and mosses, it is now my understanding thatthey

[Keith Livingstone Australia]

I'll have to look on my home computer. A researcher for another family contacted me when she found a posting I'd put up; her friend is a descendant of Angus Livingstone as well, via the daughter Ann. In an email she quoted from some of the birth records for children of Angus Livingston (or McGilvra) and Margaret Hall (or later, Hale, or later Kale). These were in the OPR for Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon, Mull, and the children's names and their respective death records, where sighted, match up exactly with descriptions of parents' names being Angus Livingston, Chelsea Pensioner, deceased, and Margaret McPhail, deceased. It's the same description on each death record, and known family members have signed them. So the OPR's from 1805-1824 for that little parish record 8 baptisms for first names that exactly match up years later on death records for progeny of Livingstone-McPhail, despite funny spellings of McPhail.