Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research

[Jewel]

Hi Kyle,

Yes, I agree with your thoughts, many a times there is a misspelling of a name or other mishaps when it comes to interpretationof someones name.

In this case though which I probablly should have stated in my previous post is that this Duncan Livingstone was born Nov,14, 1844 in Oakvile, Toronto,Canada. and his parents were James and Mary Livingston, born Scotland.

Jewel

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Roberta,
Sorry this is where I was going regarding the possibility of there being two Duncan Livingstons and Mary O'Connells.
If I understood correctly Duncan Livingston b. 1841 son John Livingston and old kate of Mull RIver, Cape Breton married or had a child with first Mary O'Connell and later another Mary in 1874 at Vale Colliery where he worked in the mine there. He has a child or two then he disappears a short time later at least from the Nova Scotia records leaving his family behind. Also the thing is if he died before 1908 if I understood correctly in Nova Scotia there is likely no official record of his death with the Government of Nova Scotia. So to all intents and purposes if this is what happened his family back in Vaille Coliery , Mull RIver or wherever lived after his disappearance would be no wiser as to what happened to him or when he died. Of course we are thinking now he did not die in Nova Scotia.

We have another Livingston in our project that I believe you just mentioned in an earlier posting that Andrew has recently contacted for genealogy info whose father was born in 1920 in East Boston, Massachusetts and his grandparents were Duncan Livingston and Mary O'Connell who were born in the USA he states. This cant be the same Duncan Livingston and Mary O'Connell then mentioned in the previous paragraph. For one thing our Mull River lost miner Duncan would be almost 80 in 1920 if indeed he were alive in 1920 and for another our Mull RIver Duncan was for certain born in Cape Breton not the USA.This family also according to their family researcher has Livingston roots in Nova Scotia. As there is apparently a family researcher I am hoping we can eventually get in touch with this person and get more details on this Massachusetts Livingston family with apparent Nova Scotia connections. I know you and Jewel have been doing some research into some of these Massachusetts Livingstons and might be worth comparing notes.

regards,

Donald

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Roberta,

Pugwash Livingstons. That rings a bell. Wentworth County. Did you mention them a few weeks ago on the forum? Sounds familiar. In any event no sorry I am not familiar that Livingston family or their history. They are new to me and I am not familiar with Livingstons that settled in that area.I will put them down on my handy excel Livingston spreadsheet though in case we ever get contacted by their descendants in the future or find out more info on them. For some strange reason I think you or someone else recently mentioned that family to a while back. Its in the back of my mind I guess. It is probably not such a bad idea to find a some new Livingstons we have never researched before.

regards,

Donald

[Roberta Ann]

Hi Donald;

I stumbled across these Livingston's a while ago and I thought you said that you knew of them. Oh well, then I will continue.
Yes, thank you for keeping track on your Spread Sheet. Remember Cyrus Eaton. He held his conferences in his home town of Pugwash. Wentworth County John Livingston died age 92 in Hospital at Halifax. I believe I all ready mentioned his wife Catherine and I believe I found her in Scotland. Anyway I'll keep on keepin' on with this 'line'.

Regards;

Roberta

[Jewel]

Hello Donald,

Here is some info that might be of interest.

Marriage: Duncan Livingstone b. 1884 Boston Mass. & Mary A. O'Connell b. 1885 Mass.
Date of Marriage December 6, 1906. Boston

Parents of Duncan" James Livingstone & Prudential Arnott or Arnett also born Scotland.
Parents of Mary A. O'Connell: Patrick O'connel and Mary A. Lane.

Marriage of Duncan's (b. 1884 Bos. Mass.) sister, Prudential b. 1888 Bos. Mass. to Alton T. Gardner
Date of Marriage: June 26, 1907

In the 1900 Census for Bos. Mass. James Livingstone b. March 1843 Scotland , Wife, Prudential b. January, 1855. Scoatland. If you need full family listing on this family let me know and I will list all children.


Jannet Livingstone: single age: 89 years 7 months.
B. 1824 Cape George,Nova Scotia
D. Feb. 12, 1913 Boston, Mass
Parents: Allen Livingstone b. Sct.
Esther Gordon b. Scotland

Jewel

[Livingstone_PEI]

Hi All

Donald I am glad David found his way to the forum and I look forward to his participation. He and his father are coming to PEI in May and I hope to have a chance to sit down with them.

I also have been in contact with a descendent of Colin's daughter Katherine. I'm not sure if I gave her the forum address or not. She has the family tree of the Worcester family and confirmed the address where Katherine was living in Massachusetts was where her family once lived, so I am very happy about that. So slowly the pieces are coming together.

I've been doing alot of thinking about where Colin might be buried and been buried in the Whycocomagh area would not be out of the question since he died only two years after he arrived on PEI, he may have been laid to rest in NS.

Colin's wife Catherine still eludes me. This is pure speculation, but the only Catherine Livingstone that is close to the age of Colin's wife in Canada and US census documents, if she is near the same age as Colin is Old Kate. I believe old Kate was born in 1814. In all of the research that is done, would it be possible that after Colin passed away she married Colin's brother John? Whew this is a stretch......I know. But I cannot find her anywhere and she shows up on the scene in 1896 to pass the PEI farm to her son. Old Kate died in 1912. Is it possible that John may have have been a widower? I would like to completely rule this out, and I know the ramifications for this theory. I know that old Kate was a Livingston from PEI. Does anyone know when Kate and John were married? Please help me dispell this thought so I can move on lol.

Barry

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Barry,
Yes it was great finding out that David is yet another descendant of the Donald and Mary Livingston that settled in 1806 at Lot 65, Queens County, PEi. I think there is a third if my memory served me well who has visited the forum from time to time. The one that is in the DNA project is the closest match yet to my Livingston Cousin. David's ancestor Allan Livingston and his wife Janet are buried in Canoe Creek Cemetery there with the rest of that Livingston family group though Donald and Mary Livingston's grave cant be located apparently. Allan Livingston b. 1816 is recorded in 1881 Census in PEI as residing at Lot 65 Queens County but he was born in Scotland according to the census and apparently came to PEI some years after his grandfather and family unless the census is mistaken.
Glad you found another lead in your study of your ancestor Colin Livingston. No actually that theory of yours would not quite work because Colin's brother if John was Colin's brother died around 1855 at Mull River or before 1860 in any event so Colin's widow whose husband Colin die d in 1867 would not have been able to marry him even if she did make her way back to Whycocomagh and Mull River after the death of her husband Colin in 1867. I think she stayed on the farm in PEi dont you think and then eventually passed on the property of her late husband to her son or or sons. Isnt that what happened in the 1880's?
regards,

Donald

[Livingstone_PEI]

Yes normally a family member would look after the mother, but she is not listed in the census as living at home. I can see them missing her in one census maybe, but missing in 1881 and 1891 is more than a coincidence I would think. Oh well back to the drawing board. Haha.

Barry

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Jewel,
Hope you had an excellent holiday.
Yes he mentioned a Mary Lane. That is definitely the family he was talking about. He said he was a grandson of Duncan Livingston and Mary O'Connell who were born in the USA. His father was born 1920 in East Boston, Mass. I then quickly began to realize this was not likely the Duncan Livington I thought from Mull River born in 1841 son of Old Kate. Your information makes that quite clear. Thanks for that. I will find out more tomorrow and see if he will visit the forum with more details. THere is a family researcher in his family so there may be even more details about this Massachussetts family and their Nova Scotia connection.



regards,

Donald

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Barry,
HOpe you had a good holiday.
I know i found that strange as well that we could not find your ancestor Catharine Livingston.

regards,

DOnald