Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research

[Livingstone_PEI]

Hi All

So the Seven Years War was where the French were defeated by the English. It was in this time period where the fall of Louisbourg and Quebec City happened. So I decided to see if I could find a John Livingston that would be worthy of giving him all this land in Cape Breton. So I started searching and this is the best I could find that would warrant such a large piece of Cape Breton being handed over to him.

I have taken this portion of text from the following document on the internet.......
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SOLDIERS OF THE FRENCH AND INDIAN WARS
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There is no evidence, traditional or historical, that any resident
of the town served in these wars from 1755 to 1760.
DANIEL KELSO enlisted from Derry in 1758, at the age of sixteen
years and served till the close of the war. He afterwards removed to
this town.
JOHN LIVINGSTON, born in the year 1729, in the parish of Learcastle,
County of Argyle, Scotland, had a more varied experience than any
other citizen of his day. The year 1756 was, on the whole, more
favorable to the French arms in North American than the British, and
great efforts were made on the part of the latter to put a sufficient
force into the field, so as to successfully content with the former;
and to do that is was necessary to raise a large number of men by
enlistment to make up the quota of the standing regiments and form
new ones, and if the young men would not enlist, they were
conscripted.
In September of the above-named year, on Livingston's return from
the grist-mill, he was met by the recruiting sergeant and a file of
soldiers, and was forced to accompany them to the place of
rendezvous, leaving the horse and bag of meal in the highway, and at
his home a wife and child. He afterwards enlisted and sent his wife
the bounty money. The Highland Regiment, of which he was a soldier,
landed in Boston in the early parta of the year 1757, and was in the
service on the frontier that year and the next, and in 1759 took part
in the expedition under General Wolfe to take Quebec. He was in the
battle of Abraham's Plains and all the other conflicts in which that
division was engaged, in every one of which he performed his duty
faithfully. After seven years' service he obtained his discharged,
of which the following is a copy.

COPY OF JOHN LIVINGSTON'S DISCHARGE
"His Majesty's 48th Regiment of foot Whereof Simon Frazer is Col.
"These are to Certifie that the Bearer herof John Livingston soldier
in Mayor Campbell's Company of the aforesaid Regiment. Born in the
parish of Learcastle in the County of Argile, aged thirty-six years
and by trade a farmer.
"Hath served honestly and Faithfully in the said Regiment for the
space of seven years. But by reason that the Regiment is to be
reduced is here by discharged, he having first received all just
Demands of pay Clothing etc., from his entry into the said Regiment
to the Day of this Discharge as appears by his Recept on the Back
thereof.
"Given under my hand and seal of the Regiment at Quebec in Canada
this Tenth day of September 1763."
"[signed] James Abercrombie,
"Maj. of 48th Regiment"

After his discharge, in company with other Highlanders, he came to
Montreal, and thence up the Missisqui River to Lake Champlain, along
the shore of this lake to the mouth of the Winooski, up the last-named
to Montpelier, where there was but one log house. There were but
few settlements in Vermont then, except on the Connecticut River and
Lake Champlain.
He then went from Montpelier to Windsor, and from there to Boston,
where he worked in the summer season in a West Indian goods store and
a stevedore's gang for the small sum of fifty cents per day, and in
the winter came to Bedford (or New Boston) and worked for his board.
After three or four years he had saved enough to purchase a lot of
land in the northwest part of the town, and clearing it, he built a
log house and frame barn, and in 1773 sent for his wife and daughter,
whom he had not seen for seventeen years. They arrived in November
of the same year. By industry and economy he acquired a large landed
estated in this town and Francestown. He was a very successful
farmer, raising a large number of horses, cattle and sheep. He died
July 16, 1818.
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http://www.nh.searchroots.com/documents ... ton_NH.txt

Even if it is not related it is an interesting piece of Livingston history.

Barry

[Kyle MacLea]

Great find, indeed, Barry! I grew up around those parts, so I find the story even more interesting. Thanks!

Kyle=

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Barry,
Yes that is an interesting find. It also proves that some Argyll residents were recruited into Frazers highland regiment and were at Quebec in 1759. Another one was probably Daniel Livingston who settled in the New York State and then came up to Upper Canada in the 1780's after the American Revolution. Interestingly Simon Fraser was the son of the Lord Lovat of Clan Frazer who was executed for his clan having joined the Jacobite side in 1745 although Lord Lovat himself actually sat on the fence so to speak until very near the end. Simon Fraser himself was a Jacobite officer who was captured but got off rather lightly compared to many of the other Jacobite officers and soldiers who were taken prisoner or executed. In the 1750's the British Army took on former highland Jacobites having seen first hand their fighting abilities a decade earlier and Simon Fraser became an officer under General Wolfe's command.
regards,

Donald

[Livingstone_PEI]

Yes

I found this all very interesting. Also found this about Rev. John Livingston and his sons who settled in Montreal. A very interesting read about half way through the document and this is related to the seven years war as well.

http://www.archive.org/stream/oldhouset ... l_djvu.txt

Barry

[Roberta Ann]

Hi Barry;

Is this your relative Ewen Lauchlin Livingstone Reg. #1103. March 8, 1901; age 18 years 6 months. Lot 48, Nine Mile Creek.

5feet 8 inches tall, medium complexion, grey eyes, brown hair. Scar on left shin. Blacksmith. Next of Kin - Mary Livingstone, sister; Charlottetown.

Regards;

Roberta

[Livingstone_PEI]

Hi Roberta

I have not found any information regarding Ewen Lauchlin Livingstone. What makes you think there might be a relationship? I'm going to look through this article.

Barry

[Livingstone_PEI]

Hi Roberta

Oh...now I see. I don't think the name fits into my ancestry. I have never seen either name in any of the research I have done. Nine Mile Creek Livingston's are a different branch of the livingston family. From what I can gather our family on PEI is not related to the ones in other areas of the island. I suspect that my family may be a relation to the ones in Georgetown, although descendents of that family are now no longer traceable. I have not seen any of those names in that family either.

Barry

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Roberta,

No that would be Ralph Livingston of USA and Donald Duncan Livingston of Canada who are descendants of the Nine Mile Creek,PEI Livingstons. Donald Duncan Livingston is my Livingston families nearest match and his ancestors from Morvern like Ralph's were descended from Donald and Mary Livingston who settled at 9 mile Creek, Lot 65, Queens County, PEI in the year 1806. Ralph has not been tested yet. I am excited by the fact that this first family beside my own tested in the DNA program with Morvern origins Donald Duncan Livingston is the closest yet to my Livingston cousin's DNA. I am of course not totatly certain how far back the PEI morvern Livingstons were connected to our Maclea Livington family at Morvern. Our Livingstons are also a relatively close match to you and Roger with the Mull connection though the 9 mile Creek LIvingstons seem to be more closely related. Mull and Morvern being beside one another I expect once we get more people tested from whose ancestors originated from these areas of Western Argyll we will see some even closer matches .

I dont know by any means the possible interconnections of families from Cape Breton and PEI except that old Catharine and her sister that lived at Mull River and Whycocomagh were apparently Nine Mile river PEI Livingstons who married two Mull River Livingstons John of Mull River one that lived at Whycocomagh and his name was Alexander LIvingston. SO there is the PEI Cape Breton two family connection but I dont know that John and ALexander's brother Colin has a PEI connection through marriage at least I dont think he married a Livington from the old NIne Mile Creek family like his brothers. At least I believe John and Alexanders were brother to Barrys ancestor Colin. Its not in the books I just believe based on my research it to be true. So I guess I can say that I found out that Colin's possible sister laws were connected to the old Nine Mile Creek PEI livingstons and that Dr. St. Clair has stated that these ladies were of that Nine Mile Creek Lot 65 Queens County PEI family of Donald and Mary Livingston that settled in 1806. That much of PEI -Cape Breton Livingston I was able to establish while helping Barry with his family research. Barry could be connnected to PEI Livingstones in some other way but I have not found what that could be.

I dont think we have established then that Barry has any known PEI Livingston connections then except that Colin Livingston, his wife and sons ended up with a farm in the Forest Hill,area of Lot 55, Kings County after the 1860's and of course they left Inverness County,Cape Breton presumingly in the 1860's for KIng County, PEI. IF we find some more land records in the PEI land registry office then some more details about Colin's purchase of land in PEI may be made clearer. The registrar and I are in agreement that is was likely sometime between 1855 and his death in 1867 when this land transaction in PEI took place.

Colin's obituary both of them, though they disagree with the age at time of death, both state that he was of the Whycocomagh Livingston family which I would assume was included in the PEI obituary by his next of kin who would know this fact with some certainty. There is some scepticism that COlin lived in Whycocomagh and was part of the Mull RIver/Whycocomagh families based apparently because Barry's ancestor Colin can not be found in the 1871 and possibly the 1861 Census for Whycocomagh. I would not rely on census records to always record all the residents all the time. In any event the reason Colin could not be found by Cape Breton researchers in the 1871 census is logical enough: he died in 1867. So one must rely then on the substandard 1861 Census which I have not much luck with finding Colin though some say he is listed in there as living in Whycocomagh. I did not notice him when I looked some time back at the library but I might missed him. Dr. St. Clair did not notice him either apparently but I am trying to check out another source from Cape Breton that stated he was in the 1861 Census for Whycocomagh. I am hoping that Jewel can find out about that from the Cape Breton Historical Society.

regards,

Donald

[Roberta Ann]

Hi Barry;

Ewen Lauchlin Livingstone moved to British Columbia. His father is listed as John A. Livingstone Lot 48, Nine Mile Creek.

Yes, Barry, I too; believe that there was more than one, different and maybe unrelated, Livingstone Family who settled in P.E.I and Cape Breton.

Regards;

Roberta

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Roberta,

Of the several original Livingstons that settled Nova Scotia and PEI in the early 1800's, there descendants have possibly spread into both provinces making a major challenge to figure out in many cases I suspect for some which Livingston family they originated and in from which province. Certainly some will have a good sense of their origins. Most of the Livingstons from Atlantic Canada ancestry that have come to the forum including yourself so far knew who their ancestors were but I guess that might not always be the case. If all else fails the DNA info will show some more distant ancestral connections among Atlantic Canada Livingstons.
regards,
Donald