Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research

[Livingstone_PEI]

I went on a search for Malcolm's son John M. and the only one I could find was a soldier in Nebraska in the 1870 US census documents. He was born 1846 in Massachusetts and is the only John Livingston in the US census with that birth year born in Massachusetts. Are there US military records back this far? It might list his father and mother in his paperwork if it exists. The timeline for 1870 would put him 5 years after the Civil War.

[Jewel]

Hi Barry,

In the 1900 census for Louisiana, New Orleans, there was a John Livingston born 1848 Mass. he is a widow and head of household, also has his occupation as a Long shoreman. Living with him is his sister Mary b. May 1876, N.Y. and brother David, b. July 1874, N.Y. Now this would be his step sister and brother as John was the son of Malcolm's first wife, Sarah. and David and Mary are the children of Malcolm's third wife Hannah which I posted. They show up in the 1880 census with Malcolm Livingston ,wife Hannah and other children.

A few other things found Sarah Livingston's (daughter of Malcolm & Sarah) death record,Salem Mass. Died April 8, 1851 age 3, born P.E.I. parents stated as Malcolm & Sarah A. Livingston.

Malcolm Livingston age 43 parents, John & Sarah Livingston, married Mary E. on June 18,1857 in Salem Mass.

Mary E. Livingston, Malcolms second wife died October 23, 1859. Williamsburg, Mass age 33, her parents were Mathew Newport and Sarah Newport. (Note: states Mary E. Livingston is single)

Then Malcolm shows up in New York in the 1870 (Sea Captain)& 1880 (Sailing Master)census withe his third wife Hannah and several other children as I posted earlier.
Tried to find a death record for Malcolm Livingston with no luck as of yet.


Jewel

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Barry,

Ok so Malcolm was born in Massachusetts and later lived in Maine and he had three wives. Jewel's info ties in nicely with what you have found and you can clearly see the PEI connection in Jewel's info. Lot of info to process late at night but it makes sense which is a good thing. So now you know what happened to John and Sarah's other son Malcolm. Joseph living in PEI the grandson then was he the son of Alexander who was Malcolm.s brother? There is some birth info for Joseph in the 1901 PEI census by the way. He is residing on lot 53 or 54 in PEI in 1901.

regards
Donald

[Jewel]

Hi Donald,

Yes there is conflict in some of the records. In the 1850 census for Malcolm Livingston with his first wife Sara A. with children,John M. age 4 and Sarah age 2 are listed as being born in Mass., On the death information that I saw on Familysearch.org it stated that Sara Livingston age 3 died on April 8, 1851 in Salem, Mass. but it said she was born P.E.I. Parents: Malcolm & Sarah A. Livingston.I will try to go back and find it again to get the source file numbers.

Jewel

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Jewel,
Youve done alot already. Sounds like a plan. We look forward to whatever else you find in your Malcolm quest.
Not a problem because the fact that it mentions PEI at all in a Malcolm related record is more proof for us that Malcolms parents listed in that 1857 lodge record for Malcolm from Essex, Massachusetts is for certain the John and Sarah Livington of Lot 53 PEI. Hopefully the other minor family details we will sort out in time. I may be jumping ahead of myself but I think that there was an assumption that John Livingston of Judique who had a son Malcolm born 1803 who lived at nearby Port Hood was born in Fort William when I am almost certain based on that very old US. Lodge info on the other Malcolm from Mass that it was probably his father jOHN Livingston who was from Fort Willliam. I believe with great certainly that the truth of the matter is that the John Livingston of Judique who was one few pioneer Livingstons who was Roman Catholic was related to your ancestor John Livingston of Low Point with some sort of Mull family connection as I speculated earlier. Note there is no original crown document in the PEI archives which states that John Livingston of Judique was from Fort WIlliam unless we missed it. I know that there is information to that effect in some collection and published book on Scots canadian because I have seen it but i would wager it did not come from original land record or petition located in the PEI archives as some of the other Livingston records we have been working with. ANotherwards someone pieced that Fort William connection to the Judique Livingston family without proof. The info that Barry found circa 1857 about Malcolm of Massachusetts parents of PEI i think more clearly connects this John to Fort WIlliam. In any event i somehow doubt they were both from Fort William and named their son Malcolm. ANyways nice going with your contribution to Barry's project. It shows genealogy really works with a team effort. The PEI branch of the Canadian Livingston project is really happening once again.

regards

Donald

[Livingstone_PEI]

Nice find Jewel on the third wife for Malcolm. I missed that. Sometimes a fresh set of eyes can find things another can't. I guess the question now is the time that John Livingstone showed up in Georgetown in 1803 fits in very well with the theory that a son of Malcolm Livingstone moved to PEI from Pictou. This would fit in very well with this find. I wish we had a family member from this family who was interested in the DNA test. I'm going to see if I can put a time line together for Malcolm. Since he was the only son of John and Sarah, he is our connection to the family. John and Sarah had three daughters, but I have not found their names anywhere. Another question that begs to be answered is Joseph. He has to be a son of one of the daughters. Maybe he was born out of wedlock, so a DNA sample from from this branch of the family might send us off in the wrong direction, even if we could find a descendent.

[Livingstone_PEI]

Can everyone review the family tree that is at this URL.

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/us ... -0518.html

This family tree is saying that Dr. Livingstone is related to NS Malcolm Livingstone's family. Is this correct? If this is correct, the descendents of NS Malcolm Livingstone should have matching DNA to Dr. Livingstone. Is this so? I noticed there is an entry for Colin Livingstone there that says he moved to PEI in 1819. That is about the time my Colin was born. I wonder if it is a mistake. I would love to know where he got that information. Does anyone have any approximate birth dates for old Malcolm's children, Angus, Janet, John and etc?

Sorry but the wheels are spinning.

[Kyle MacLea]

I'm guessing that family tree has a healthy dose of conjecture in it? I'd like to see their 'sources'!

Kyle=

[Livingstone_PEI]

I sent a couple emails to a couple possible people that might be him Kyle. Lets see if I get any response. I think the same...he has the Bouldarie Livingstons having the same bloodline as Dr. Livingstone.

Here is an interesting ships manifest.

http://www.immigrantships.net/v9/1800v9 ... 00409.html

[Jewel]

Hi Barry,

I found some cemetery records for Malcolm Livingston and some of his family. Malcolm actually lived in Mt. Vernon Village in the county of Westchester, New York.

The Cemetery is St. Pauls Cemetery, Mt. Vernon, Westchester County N.Y.

Richard b. 1865 Mt. Vernon D. Aug. 4, 1882 age 17 yrs. 9 mo. he is buried in the same grave as his sister Hannah A. Livingston.

Malcolm Livingston b. 1815 Mass. D. Sept. 12,1882 age 67.

Hannah Livingston (wife of Malcolm) B. N.Y. D. October 22, 1883.( interesting, she is buried with a William Atkinson)

Hannah A. ( daughter of Malcolm and Hannah Livingston) actuallly died in Conneticut on Aug. 28,1887. 20 yrs old.


Malcolm (son of Malcolm and Hannah) b.1870 N.Y. D. January 11, 1892, age 22.

I wonder if there might have been a death notice for Malcolm Livingston b. 1815 Mass. in the Mt. Vernon News paper? I tried to contact the Mt. Vernon Public Library with not much luck .

Jewel