Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research

[Livingstone_PEI]

Another nice find too Jewel. I was looking too but didn't find anything. They all died so young.

I had been looking for an obituary for Malcolm and like you I came up dry. I found a number of searches for death records in New York, but didn't find anything.
I signed up for the mailing list on this webpage... http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nywestch/index.htm

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Barry,

I quite agree with your thoughts regarding genealogical DNA testing. I think for a number of the Livingston groups including your own it would certainly help to further clarify any possible family connections close or more distant between the PEI and Cape Breton Livingstons with Mull. We know that for years a number of family researchers have speculated that some of the Atlantic Canada Livingstone pioneers are related. The DNA testing would certainly help to take the speculation out of it and provide some measure of absolute proof. It would be interesting see how your own Livingstons from PEI match up DNA wise with Jewel and Roberta's Cape Breton Livingston group and the other PEI and Cape Breton families. Interestingly, although my great-great-great grandfather Miles Livingston b.1775 Morvern, Argyllshire settled in Manitoba in 1812 and Ontario in 1815, this Livingston families nearest match with the DNA project is a descendant of PEI pioneer Donald Livingston b.1755 also a native of Morvern who with his grown up family resided in Mull in Argyllshire and settled at Nine Mile Creek, Lot 65, in the year 1806. The descendants of this family are fortunate in that a very detailed passenger list survives for the ship Rambler which they sailed from Tobermory, Mull that year. My ancestor Miles Livingston boarded two ships in June of 1812, a schooner called "The Staffa" from Tobermory which took him, his recently married second wife Janette nicknamed Jessie Livingston, his teenage son from his first marriage Donald Livingston and a fellow boatbuilder also named Donald Livingston born abt. 1791 in Morvern who I suspect was a cousin of Miles. The Staffa a small schooner chartered by one of Lord Selkirk,s highland agents then arrived at the Port of Sligo,Ireland where the Hudson Bay Company vessel utilized by Lord Selkirk lay waiting to take Miles Livingston party and others who originated from Islay , a large group of Northern Mull McLeans and Irish to British North AMerica. Anyways I have indirect connection to a PEI Livingstone family at some point in the ancestral history of my particular Livingston family line. So yes Genealogy DNA Testing can be helpful for PEI and Cape Breton Livingstons or any Livingstons for that matter to help indentify family connections.

regards,

Donald

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Jewel,

Great stuff. That has to be the same family. You dont see too many Malcolm Livingstons born abt.1815 married to Hannah. So Massachussetts to Maine to New York State. You are really very good at tracking down lost Livingstons and discovered three wives of Malcolm in the process. Not all the questions have been answered that Barry has but we have a much better picture of this John and Sarah Livington family overall.

regards,

Donald

[Livingstone_PEI]

I do plan on doing the DNA test and I hope we can find descendents of Malcolm and John willing to do the test too. I will be working long days the next 4 days so will not be around alot. I have sent an email to the mailing list so hopefully we will get some bites and some new information

Barry

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Barry,

Rest assured that information on Dr. Livingstone's family is almost totally incorrect. That Malcolm is not Dr. Livingstone's ancestor nor is he related to a Malcolm Livingston of Nova Scotia or PEI as far as we know. No known PEI or Cape Breton Livingstons with a proven family connection to Dr. Livingstone. Dr. Livingstone;s Uncle and Aunt named Morrison settled in the Belfast PEI area in the early 1800's. Thats it Of course every Livingston family including my own believed their was a Dr. Livingstone family connection.

regards,

Donald

[Livingstone_PEI]

Just an FYI. There are quite a few documents in the Charlottetown archives relating to Malcolm. I should have another look at them next week. I might notice something in them that didn't look important before. There are quite a few conveyances with Malcolm on them, so I just have to sort out which ones are his and which ones are other Malcolms. He did own property in Charlottetown and he was not only a sea captain, but he was also a business man. I'll see what else I can find now that I know more of what I am looking for.

Yes Donald I agree. I have met descendents of the Morrisons at the Belfast Historical Society meetings and as far as I know they are the only descendents or family to the Dr. on PEI. I do believe the Dr.'s relatives arrived here according to books I have read about the Dr., but we have no proof they stayed in the Maritime provinces. It would be nice to have it, but so far it is just speculation.

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Barry,
I have actually have been throughly researching information on Dr. Livingstone's family for the last couple of years for our Society because Kyle and I are both of the oppinion that there is a need for clarification regarding the family and obviously a great deal of interest. I was also instrumental in pursuing the DNA aspect of this Dr. Livingstone project with Andrew Lancaster's encouragement so we could have clarification in that regard as well in keeping with the late Rob Livingstone's desire to establish ancestral connections with Dr. David Livingstone through DNA research.
It is again possible that "other" Livingston families may through DNA prove to have more distant ancestral connection to the Isle of Ulva,Mull family of Dr. Livingstone and the Project has found one whose ancestors lived on the Isle of Islay but whose origins were likely from the Mull area. Surprisingly none of the families known to have originated from Mull area and settled in Canada directly that are part of our DNA project are matching up as part of the Dr. Livingstone's ancestral line perhaps because his family left Mull before 1800. Still we expect some distant cousin to have still been on the Island after 1800. We do know from Dr. Livingstone's own search of the Island of Ulva in the 1860's on his second return home from Africa that he was told by locals on the Island that all his Livingstone relatives were basically long gone or died out years earlier. Perhaps clearances or emigration had removed any remnants of related Livingstons a few decades earlier but if so where did these distant cousins go. We just dont know. Just alot of speculation out there. I always keep hoping we will find a lost family of Dr. Livingstone's distant relatives that can be proven somewhere in the world.

Regarding the imediate family of Doctor Livingston I can assure you none settled in Cape Breton or PEI. No evidence of his Uncles settling in Canada anywhere as far as I can tell. The only Livingstone relative that I know did settle in Canada is his older brother John Livingston (1811-1899) who settled in Lanark Township in the mid 1840's and later Listowel, Ontario with his wife Mary Mackenzie. Dr. Livingstone was very close with his older brother and corresponded with him right up to the last year of his life in Africa. Dr. Livingstone and family mentioned relatives in PEI but it would seem they were referring to his Uncle and Aunt who were Hector Morrison and Marion Mclean. Yes I thought you might have heard of this Morrison family through your Belfast Historical Society.

regards,

Donald

[Canadian Livingstone]

HI Barry,

Ok heres a challenge. Can you establish that the information you have on a sea captain Malcolm Livingstone connected to Charlottetown pertains to the Captain Malcolm Livingstone b.1815 Mass. son of John Livingston and Sarah Campbell? It all seems to reinforce the notion that Captain Livingstone travelled by boat often between Massachusetts and PEI and had business interests in both countries like you are saying. You,your historical society and or the PEI Archivist may be able to verify that was the case. Sounds like he left a paper trail behind him in Charlottetown as well as Massachussetts and from this we may get a better sense of exactly what he was up to. Seems like a number of Livingstones were sailors in PEI and Cape Breton. There were sailors in the Boularderie Livingston family of Cape Breton. Must be in our highland Livingstone blood to be drawn to a life at sea. I wonder if "Captain Highlander" was a Livingstone?

regards,

Donald

[Livingstone_PEI]

I'm not sure how I missed this before, but it lists Joseph as being born in Nova Scotia. If I am correct that his father is Alexander, then Alexander was in N.S. at the time of his birth. I think this is more likely correct rather than the 1881 census which lists him as being born in PEI. I think this is a mistake.

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/data ... 47dtns4272

Farther up the image you will see a John Livingstone and I'm pretty sure this is Joseph's son and his family.

Does anyone see a Joseph Livingstone born in 1833 to an Alexander Livingston in any of their notes or sources of information?

Barry

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Barry,

If we could locate Joseph's death record we may be able to verify that Joseph was the son of Alexander. If he died after 1906 in Prince Edward Island there may be a death record for him which may list his parents. Joseph Livingstone was born March 13,1834 according to the info in the 1901 Census. I dont see him in the 1911 Census so perhaps he died sometime between 1901 and 1911. So his death in PEI may or may have not been recorded by the PEI government.

regards,

Donald