Malcolm Livingstone - Salem Mass.

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Barry,

Would there be a PEI death record for Joseph Livingston which lists the name of his parents to verify that ALexander was his father? He died sometime after 1901 I should think.

regards,

Donald

[Livingstone_PEI]

Hi All

I found a copy of the obituary for Malcolm.

http://fultonhistory.com/Newspaper4/Mou ... 200284.pdf

Does anyone know where we can find muster rolls for the 104th Regiment of Foot, or other Fencible Units from the War of 1812? I have a feeling the family history for Malcolm's father John has alot to do with the War of 1812 and the troops there. Remember Malcolm was born in 1814 in Maine....the last year of the war. This would fit into my theory that John was disbanded from a regiment in 1802, when alot of regiments disbanded and then later joined a regiment in New Brunswick or Maine for this war. He became a farmer on PEI in 1803, which is when his land conveyance is dated. This is all guessing right now, but this is a place and a place in history that we could look.

Barry

[Livingstone_PEI]

Hi Again

I found an interesting site.

http://fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html

From this site I see that Malcolm was born in Portland Maine. In the masonic document which says the birthplace of Malcolm was Townsend, the name today for that place is Bucks Harbor, Maine. I really feel the only reason anyone would be in Portland Maine in 1814 is because of the war. The British troops captured Portland in 1814 without any resistance from the US Navy or US Army. I am betting that John Livingston was part of the invading army that captured Portland. Now I have to try to prove it.

Barry

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Barry,

Isnt that the widow of the late Capt. Malcolm Livingston that died according to the newspaper? Malcolm was born abt. 1814 in Maine. Good to know. Interesting theory. Yes that would have placed his father and mother presumingly in an U.S State during the War of 1812 or near the end of it. 1814 was the last year of War. Very interesting theory.

regards,

Donald

[Livingstone_PEI]

Just a note of interest. Malcolm is reported to have been born in Townsend, Maine in 1814. The name of Townsend today is Bucks Harbor. If anyone is trying to find a connection to Malcolm in Townsend, you should be looking for Bucks Harbor or the surrounding area.

Barry

[Livingstone_PEI]

Sorry I had an error and it posted twice so I removed the text

[Livingstone_PEI]

I think I have somewhat of a breakthrough on Malcolm's father. I know from his wife Sarah's will that her husband John died sometime before 1850, because she was a widow at that time. I also know that their family name was somewhat interchangeable in that it either was written Livingstone or Lavingston. I have seen it in the Three Rivers area spelled both ways. I was going through index cards here... http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/micr ... 750beosth7

I came across an index card saying that the widow of John Lavingston, whose name was Sarah was petitioning the Governor General for the remainder of her husband's military pension. It said he was a veteran of the 8th Royal Veterans Battalion. It listed the microfilm that the petition was on, but I don't think that microfilm is available online. I know in later years the father John was recognized as a Captain, but this might have been a sea captain after his military career ended. I don't know if he was a captain in the Veteran's Battalion. Using the name Lavingston is not common so I am pretty sure it is the same person. I just wish I could see the microfilm. I am going to see if I can get it loaned to the archives in Charlottetown. It likely has Sarah's address on it. If anyone can shed some light on this or has access to the microfilm for this that would be helpful too.

I saved the index cards for all Livingstone's or their variants as images. If anyone wants copies of the index cards I can zip them and send them to you. All you have to do is send me a PM with your email address. I think there are really too many to post here. There must be nearly 100 index cards that have information on them and they reference the documents on the other microfilms.

Barry

[Livingstone_PEI]

I have also found that Malcolm's sister was also born in Maine as well as Malcolm. I have found this regarding the 8th Veterans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_South_Wales_Corps

"102nd Regiment

In 1809, after the Rum Rebellion, the NSW Corps was formed into the 102nd Regiment of Foot and recalled. A few of its officers and long-serving privates were transferred to bring Macquarie’s 73rd regiment up to near full strength; around 100 veterans and invalids were retained for garrison duty in NSW. Though of little real use, the unit survived till 1823. Some officers were allowed to retire and farm their land; however, the bulk of the troops were sent back to England. Colonel Paterson, formerly Captain Paterson, died in South Africa on the way.

In England, most of the returnees went to Veteran or Garrison battalions, most officers ending up in the 8th Royal Veteran Battalion. The regiment was reconstituted with new recruits and then served in various posts throughout the United Kingdom: Horsham in 1811 and Guernsey in 1812. In 1812 the Regiment was posted to Bermuda and then Nova Scotia. In the British-American War (known in North America as the War of 1812) they took part in seaborne raids along the US Atlantic coast and other actions against the Americans, and were involved in the British occupation of northern Maine. Detachments of the 102nd remained on both sides of the border between the British colony of New Brunswick and the US State of Maine after the war's end in December 1814 at Moose Island, modern day Eastport, Maine, USA. A vivid description of its garrisoning duty on Moose Island can be found in David Zimmerman's Coastal Fort; to a lesser extent in Joshua Smith's Borderland Smuggling.

After the end of the wars against Napoleonic France and the United States, the British Army disbanded many units for the sake of economy. The 102nd Regiment was renumbered as the 100th Regiment of Foot in 1816. The 100th were the last British troops to occupy the United States; the last detachments returned to Chatham Barracks in England, where the regiment was disbanded on March 24, 1818.

The government, at a loss with what to do with the disbanded veterans, some of whom remembered NSW fondly, offered them the chance to reform the NSW Corps as a garrison unit. They arrived in Sydney in July 1826 where they were placed under the command of Colonel Henry Dumaresq. In 1829 the Royal New South Wales Veterans Companies, or Veterans Corps, had about 150 men serving at various posts in NSW, Norfolk Island and Tasmania. It was finally disbanded on 1 April 1833.

Throughout its life the regiment acquired a number of nicknames related to its service in New South Wales: Botany Bay Rangers, Rum Puncheon Corps or Rum Corps, Condemned Regiment."

I guess it is apparent why Malcolm was born in Maine now. This is what I suspected and thought that his father was in the military and stationed in Maine for the War of 1812.

[Livingstone_PEI]

I suspected this was the same John a long time ago and I think I can say that it is the same person. It all fits now.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/cata ... thod=5&j=1

[Livingstone_PEI]

c-3041-00227.pdf

Well I found out how to find the proper microfilm from the index, so here is a pdf file for the record for Sarah's petition.