Appin Livingstones in late 18th century

Douglas MacGregor · Post by **Douglas MacGregor** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:58 am

Hello. I am new to the Clan Mclea/Livingstone forum, so let me introduce myself. My name is Douglas MacGregor and I am descended from Mary Livingstone who was born in the 1790s and lived all her life in Appin. Having exhausted the obvious methods of obtaining further information, this post is intended to provide some information about her and her immediate family in the hope that this will ring a bell with other people who may have a connection. We are not exactly sure when Mary was born. Her death certificate suggests 1790. Census returns from 1841 to 1871 are inconsistent, but allowing for rounding suggest a range of dates from 1787 to 1801. We know that the ages given on census returns for her husband were incorrect. Mary's parents are listed on her death certificate as John Livingstone and Mary Livingstone (maiden surname also Livingstone), but this is the only information we have about them. I noted on the Clan Livingstone website a record of Peggy Livingstone, born 1795 in Coalard to a John Livingstone and a Mary Livingstone.

Bachuil · Post by **Bachuil** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 5:59 pm

Hello, Douglas and Welcome to our forum. I have emailed your queries to my parents on Lismore and am trying to contact a cousin Duncan Livingstone of Laggan who may be able to help. I shall get back if there is any news. Regards Niall

Kevin Livingston · Post by **Kevin Livingston** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:44 am

Hello Douglas, Welcome to the Clan Discussions http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com ... gstone.htm show the following info: "Neil Livingstone moved from Ulva to Blantyre in 1792, to work in the cotton mills there.

Andrew Lancaster4 · Post by **Andrew Lancaster4** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:49 pm

Dear Douglas I am a descendent of John Livingstone and Mary Craig. I have to say that I do not believe John Livingstone was the Argyll man most of my family claim him to be. See my webpage about the subject: http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/Livingstone.htm Many families say they are related to Dr Livingstone, and several of us are now able to compare our paternal DNA markers on the DNA project. Are you in contact with any of the male Livingstones of your family who might be interested? Also see this old post if you have not seen it yet: http://www.clanmclea.co.uk/forum/show-m ... asp?ID=356 Best Regards Andrew Lancaster

Douglas MacGregor · Post by **Douglas MacGregor** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:51 pm

Dear Andrew, I would love to take part in a DNA trial. Unfortunately my connection to Mary Livingstone is through five generations of female descendents. Hence I personally carry neither the appropriate Y chromosome, nor the Livingstone surname. At present we do not know of any male siblings of Mary Livingstone, who could help establish connectivity. With regard to your possible connection to John Livingstone, I have been in contact with another member of your family through the Genes Reunited website who told me that the connection to John Livingstone, b1777 was "problematic". This is clearly a difficult area for many families. I am hoping that by asking the appropriate questions I can either confirm or rule out various possible connections. In the process I would be delighted if I could establish a definite connection to any other Livingstone families. Thanks, Douglas

Andrew Lancaster4 · Post by **Andrew Lancaster4** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:17 pm

Hi Douglas If ever you find a Livingstone from your family, remember the project. Yes, John b.1777 is problematic, as this date has been passed around for more than a generation now. However it is worth mentioning that the family ALSO had a tradition of association with Glamis, which fits perfectly with the association with book selling in Dundee which is mentioned in shipping records, and even more perfectly with the baptism of David Peter Livingstone having been in Kinnettles. The Glamis registers make it clear that the Livingstones there lived right on the border with Kinnettles (in the plans of Thornton and Hayston) and branches married and moved there on several occasions. No one in the family has ever mentioned a specific family story or bit of evidence about John being born 1777, and I have to presume that one of our genealogists (presumably my great uncle who was the first) made this connection based on the other family story of a connection to Dr Livingstone. So maybe there is a connection, but I don't think this (b.1777) can be it. Best Regards Andrew

Nick MacAskill1 · Post by **Nick MacAskill1** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:46 pm

'Apologies if this post appears again, but I don''t believe that it worked the last time! Very interesting reading your notes below.