Looking for Lee family derived from Lea and possibly McLea?

Kyle2 MacLea · Post by **Kyle2 MacLea** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:30 pm

In appreciating all that Rob Livingston has done for us, I looked up some of his documented posts around the internet using my friend Google.

Bob Turcott · Post by **Bob Turcott** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:09 am

Kyle, I am not sure if this will help, but here goes.

Andrew Lancaster4 · Post by **Andrew Lancaster4** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:36 am

...for which reason the DNA project also accepts people have both this surname and an idea that their fmaily might be Scottish. Of course there are many origins for this surname (in England there are Lea and Leigh coming from a word for a meadow) so it is an example of why being a member of several projects can be helpful. Best Regards Andrew

Kyle2 MacLea · Post by **Kyle2 MacLea** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:45 pm

Dear Bob, Yes, as one of the contributions of our late cousin Rob, I believe he was right on target with this.

Kyle2 MacLea · Post by **Kyle2 MacLea** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:51 pm

In fact, just a Lea family comes into the news with this obituary: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... db2101.xml The Reverend His Honour Major Christopher Lea Probably of the English Lees, but if anyone knows differently, feel free to post it.

Andrew Lancaster4 · Post by **Andrew Lancaster4** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:37 pm

As usual, we should be careful about reading too much into spelling, but in fact: 1. Something I know from that other project I do: the aristocratic Leas (who may represent the minority of English families who use that spelling) were a branch of the de Lancasters, the territory after which they were named being near Preston in Lancashire. 2. Our project's one Scottish Lee has the spelling Lee. As it happens, your remarks are timely. Our Rob's 67 marker results were amongst the first, while the rest trickle in. Our project's Scottish Lee, who is also a member of the Clan Donald project, has just received his results. Rob and Mr Lee have a "genetic distance" of 8 (= a probable 8 one step mutations) out of 67 markers. Family Tree DNA have set the bar from getting a message about a possible relative at a genetic distance of 7 out of 67. Both Rob and Mr Lee are however 7 away from a Mr Logan who has often also come into discussions about who our chiefly family is most related to. I hope and believe that the Buchanans, Campbells, MacGregors, and MacDonalds have more results on the way also. I know that Rob was trying to push people in the so-called "Scots clsuter" (the one suspected to be particularly associated with Argyll clan chiefs) to test for more markers until very recently. Regards Andrew

Kyle2 MacLea · Post by **Kyle2 MacLea** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:36 am

That is very interesting, Andrew! I would say that a distance of 8 out of 67 seems remarkably close... I contemplate "upgrading" to 67... although with the markers I have done at DNA-FP, I'm not sure how many I would actually gain. Kyle

Andrew Lancaster4 · Post by **Andrew Lancaster4** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:22 am

Actaully the overlap is not that big. DYS413 DYS444 DYS446 ...I think that's all. Concerning your first sentence, hmmm, it is one of those tricky things - Argyll is known to have had a small population which increased quickly and then dispersed and reduced quickly. And then secondly whenever we try to find sub-clusters within the Scots cluster we find reasons to doubt them. (Witness Ken Nordtvvedts effort which simply identifed a big number of Campbells.) Looking at the whole Scots cluster, and looking at as many markers as we can, I don't think anyone has proved much yet. (There are some exceptions like showing that many Stirlings are probably MacGregors, and that the main Campbell lines match the McCutcheons of the Clan Donald.) I think many of us, perhaps all of us, get a feeling that there is a significant sub-structure to be found, but I think we'll only prove this with more markers. Who will our clan chiefs be closest to? Indeed, we should extend this thinking to our other DNA families, wherein yours may in fact be one of those most Dalriadic looking of all! Regards Andrew

Bob Turcott · Post by **Bob Turcott** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 9:28 am

I have a fellow colleague's name is Jesse Lea he is a business contact of mine and I remembered this post. I asked him if he had any knowledge of his genealogy background and he indicated that he believed that someone in his family told him his family ancestry orinated in the 'Highlands' of England and for some reason it seemed as though he told me that the meaning of the name somehow had the words maybe highland or high land meadow or something like that. I will ask him about it a little further, if there are no highlands in england then there could be a possibility he could be cousin, I asked him if he could have mistaken and perhaps maybe it was highlands scotland. I will inquire further and see if he would like to participate in this forum for further analysis, it would be a great oportunity if he agrees, lets keep our fingers crossed Kyle!!!!!

Kyle2 MacLea · Post by **Kyle2 MacLea** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 2:23 pm

Excellent, Bob!