Wishart McLea Robertson

[Kyle2 MacLea]

Does anyone know anything about the family history of Wishart McLea Robertson, PC (February 15, 1891

[Ralph Livingstone]

The names are unusual enough in combination, that I would also venture a guess that there is some McLea connection. I ran through a quick search, and found that Wishart M. Robertson once served as president of the Clan Donnachaidh society, though I'm not sure that's significant: http://www.donnachaidhinternational.com/thesociety.htm I also found a Robertson family tree site that has both Wishart and McLean surnames listed. That may prove more significant: http://www.genealogytoday.com/surname/f ... =Robertson

[Kyle2 MacLea]

Thanks, Ralph!

[Bob Turcott]

This may be partially on key & partially off key, In my case, My grandfathers name was Neil Livingstone Zimmer, I never knew it had any significance until I started to research the ancestry and realized he was given that middle name to definately signify the ancestral family, in this instance his granparents were Charles Zimmer & Sara Livingstone, but I would have never known this association of a surname being applied as a middle name, but now it is ever so clear to me. So now this custom of giving a surname to use for a middle name for a grandchild or even child could be some sort of scotish practice for sure or is it Mclea/Livingstone practice forgotten!!!???

[Kyle2 MacLea]

Hey, Bob! It is my understanding that there are OTHER Livingstone/MacLea families out there who also did the same thing, transmitting the Livingston name as a middle name through generations.

[Bob Turcott]

Kyle, in my case the middle name was to honor the ancestral family and my grandfather certainly would not carry livingstone "Y" DNA. however, I think you may be right there may be instances that others did, I even remember the illusive dunsleave Livingstone that was on the mull island census, that would be another variable example where dunsleave probably did carry the y dna. Now remember one of my first postings that my great great grandmother Sara Livingstone father was found to be James Mccormick and not james Livingstone as he deserted the army, however James parents were Duncan Mccormick from soarphrin and Ann Livingstone from criech. my ancestral line gets really illusive, but I am certain that we are desendants from a female line that came from agryl scotland, but it will be interesting for sure when my reasearch solidifies and yes it is possible that you may find males that used livingstone or mclea as a middle name and could very well be carriers of the y dna. However, I will keep you posted because I am having a male livingstone cousin's y dna tested, however we expect mccormick y dna, but research sometimes can take a drastic turn and one may not know for certain what the results will yield, it would be one big surprise for sure if the dna comes back for a variant or close match y dna signature for livingstone!!! Thats why I have an open mind, when single handed researchers are involed sometimes human error can occur as sometimes paper trails can be even misinterpreted even by the most experienced genealogist, thats why I like evryone [perspective and collaborative input for the best accesment. I cant wait to see what I find out with dna results and microfilms!!! But I must say, there is a VERY HIGH probabilty regardless of what form of dna is involed that I descent from Higland cland and probably not lowland...

[Andrew Lancaster4]

Hi Kyle. Yes, in that case our participant eventually proved to descend from an adopoted Livingston boy. At a certain age he started using his new parents' surname and his original name as a middle name which was then made hereditary. But our participant did not know the origin. After we tracked this boy in censuses, he heard from a relative that this story had one existed in the family. Regards Andrew

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi All, In the case of my kin, the use of Livingston as a middle name refered to the maiden name of the mother's family. She being Nancy Livingstone (1813-1880) eldest child of Miles Livingstone native of Movern and later resident of Bowmore, Isle of Islay. The name continued in the family for many years as a middle name out of respect for our Livingstone ancestors and because our pride in being part highland Scot. There was also a tradition of using Miles as a middle name after leaving the old country in our family for the same reasons. Niall Livingstone later informed me of the significance of the name Miles "Maelmoire" to the Livingstones of the Island of Lismore. It was also common among the McInnes family who we know were kin of the famous Donald Livingstone veteran of the Battle of Culloden and a resident of Savary, Morvern. For many years old Donald Livingstone sat outside his hotel at Savary clad in his tartan kilt telling his life story. (Regretably a surviving account of Donald Livingstone at Savary in his kilt does not record a detailed description of the tartan he wore.) When I see a last name used as a middle name I assume more often than not it is one's mother's maiden name or a grandmother's name or some such female ancestor. In any event not representing the male line of their family as in the case of our family. My grandfather did not use the name Livingstone, because he felt one middle name was enough, but he passed on to my father information from some ancient family oral tradition that our Livingstones in highland Scotland were of a noble family. By this I assume he was referring to whatever clan connection we had to the those ancient Barons, the Barons of Bachuil who lived across from Movern. I will be proudly restoring our middle name one day soon to its former prominent place in our family. regards Donald (Livingstone) Clink