Early Livingston who wasn't a Lowlander?

Andrew Lancaster4 · Post by **Andrew Lancaster4** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 11:53 pm

Dear Kyle In the spirit of the name counts you've been doing, I'll remind you of these. Compare to the account of http://www.macleay.cncfamily.com/account_of_mclea.htm A testament:- Livingstone, Patrick, alias M'Fetie, in Tullochcoul 07 Jan 1729 Some baptisms from Dull: 19 Apr 1705 LIVISTONE, JOHN

Kyle2 MacLea · Post by **Kyle2 MacLea** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:33 am

Good catches!

Craig McClay Wilson · Post by **Craig McClay Wilson** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:14 am

Interesting.

Craig McClay Wilson · Post by **Craig McClay Wilson** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:14 pm

The Account of the Name McLea also lists a McPhetie from Dull.

Canadian Livingstone · Fri Mar 16, 2007 2:36 am

Kyle,

Canadian Livingstone · Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:29 pm

Hi Kyle, If one puts aside whatever possible Livingtons descended from the old Linlithgo families might still live in the vicinity, there is always of course the present day Livingston descendants of Robert Livingston of Livingston Manor, NY perhaps today still living in the land of the ancestors in Dutchess County or perhaps nearby Albany County, NY. Many of descendants of Robert Livingston became prominent government and historic figures in New York State and of course connected to the old Lowland family.

Andrew Lancaster4 · Post by **Andrew Lancaster4** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:08 am

I agree. I found this family by looking in the right place and time after having read the account. So it was right. From my own point of view I was interested to see if I could connect these people to my own Livingstones, who lived a little further east in Strathmore. They used the name "Livitch" (various spellings) until the 19th century. And as you know we have DNA evidence of a connection to McClays for these Livitchs. Currently I think they are two different families. By the way it is worth considering that "the Account" mentions a very odd spelling which was sometimes given as explaining the origins of the surname. I have often wondered if this explanation, which was apparently known around Perthshire, might not have been influenced by the Livitch pronunciation. Regards Andrew

Andrew Lancaster4 · Post by **Andrew Lancaster4** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:10 am

We should keep in mind that Petie was a common form for Patrick AND Peter in Perthshire, and when combined with a "Mac" by a Gaelic speaker it would always become something like MacFetie, so this was likely to be a common patronymic. In this particular family I'd suggest that it was only ever really used as a patronymic in explicit opposition to their surname, which they said was Livingstone. Best Regards Andrew