The Clan MacLea in Polish!

[Jerry]

Donald , Edith, and anyone else wanting my e-mial adress.

[Jerry]

I entered the address wrong, I left the "e" off the end of livingstone, it should be iowalivingstone-at-aol-dot-com

[edith]

Hi, Donald, Thanks for the good information, as usual. You have really done a lot of valuable research. I hope you feel much better soon. Take your medicine, and otherwise take good care of yourself. I had wanted to ask you if you had information on ships which arrived after 1815. 1819 should be late enough to include all of the Livingstone branch of the family, though. Some of the Matheson extended family, and other people from Sutherlandshire that I'm interested in, straggled along into the 1820s or perhaps even the 1830s. I haven't done any work in the Red River Settlement archives yet except for the census reports from 1827 to 1843. I got those films early on because I wanted to know when Angus and Isabella Matheson moved to Iowa. Some sources said 1837. But they are on the 1840 Red River census with their first two sons, so that answered that question. Their third child was born in Iowa in the fall of 1840. I'm sure there's a lot more in the archives I could use but I have to do it long distance. So far I've been concentrating on the easier stuff, mostly books and what's available online. Edith

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Edith, The only Mathesons I have listed are ones that arrived on the vessel "The Prince of Wales" in 1814 and those that arrived in Summer of 1815 with Sutherlands,Gunns and others. Lots of John and ALex Mathesons and a Widow Matheson and other many other Matheson children included in these two settler groups and the list indicates that most of them originate from Kildonan, Sutherlandshire, Scotland. I can type up the information on the Mathesons from these two list but you well already have this. Some of these Mathesons joined Miles Livingston and others in deserting the settlement in the Summer of 1815 under pressure from the North West Company and arrived by North West Company canoes at Holland River where they took up settlement in Upper Canada (Ontario). According to the 1815 list of those who had taken flight for Upper Canada were John Matheson, John Matheson Jr. Other Mathesons were not so easily intimidated by the North West Company and stubornly remained in Hudsons Bay Territory after their Red RIver Settlement was twice destroyed. In 1816 a petition was written to the PRince Regent asking for assistance of troops and protection after the troubles of 1816. Among those on the list was Donald Livingston b.1791 a cousin of Miles Livingston who was made a constable for the settlement subsequently by Lord Selkirk in 1817. Also on the list was an Angus, Alex and John Matheson. As I said just to confuse things there were Alex and John Mathesons arriving in both 1814 and 1815. Some are listed by age and some are not. I am sorry to say I don't seem to have the complete passenger list for the PRince of Wales in 1819. Just the other Livingstones that arrived on it that Mary sent me. I would be interested in seeing what other families arrived that year and hopefully someday I will have a copy of it. So at this point I dont know about any subsequent Matheson arrivals after 1815 or the Rose family. Are you certain that there were other Matheson arriving after 1815? THere were quite a few of them on those two arrivals to populate the settlement. regards Donald (Livingstone) Clink

[edith]

Donald, Oops, I just responded to the Iowa Livingstone message before I read this one. Thanks - yes, I did know this already. I'd still like to have your e-mail address, though, if you don't mind. The Widow Matheson in 1815 was my Angus's grandmother, and Alex, Angus, Katherine Polson and Helen, who later married John McBeth, were her children. My Angus was five years old (his family, Alexander's, was spelled Mathewson, not an uncommon variant). The Angus who became a constable was, of course, his uncle. "Widow" Jean's other son, John, was on the 1813 list and he left in 1815. I do not know who the John Jr. and the other Alexander, etc. were. The clan Matheson was fairly large and they were probably not connected to our family. I wonder if there were any letters or other connection to her John, as he left with his wife before the 1815 party arrived. Jean Matheson had one other daughter, who arrived in the Settlement sometime in the 1820s. That's the one I'd like to know about some day. The John Matheson who was with Jean and Helen in 1815 was her step-grandson, for that other daughter's second marriage was to another Alexander Matheson, apparently no close relative, and this 18-year-old John was his son by his first marriage.