Livingstone Tartan Mystery Update

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi David, With all due respect a search on the internet reveals that there is a large part of the world that rightly or wrongly acknowledges tartan authority, the late RObert Bain and his 1938 book to be the source of what is now referred to as Tartan WR1003. As you know I dont totally buy into this, but that is what most are saying and I am just reporting what I have seen. I spoke to Brian Wilton of the Scottish Tartan Authority earlier and I don't wish to dispute his knowledge of our clan tartans, but I find this discrepancy something that rightly should be checked out by the clan. I think it would help if perhaps Niall who lives in Scotland could locate a copy of this 1906 book and resolve the matter one way or

[Kyle2 MacLea]

This 1896 book is also in the Library of Michigan genealogy library...

[Kyle2 MacLea]

Similarly, there is this book, whose original printing was apparently 1910? http://magic.msu.edu/record=b4321314a Title The Scottish tartans, with historical sketches of the clans and families of Scotland, the badges, arms, slogans, etc., of the clans. Publisher Glasgow, Millar & Lang, [19--] It was later reprinted by W & AK Johnston again. Kyle=

[D.W.Livingston]

I would say it wouldn't hurt to get any information from any books pre-1936. Information is good. =) David

[Canadian Livingstone]

Sounds good. I would be curious about that one from 1896 because Frank Adams subsequent book "The Clans Septs and Regiments of the Scottish Highlands" first published in 1908 and later revised by Sir THomas Innes contains only a half page or less on the Highland Livingstones classifying them as sept of the Stewarts of Appin. No Livingstone tartan. Can you find this 1906 book published W and A.K Johnston that David and I were taling about in your Michigan library? I am going to the library today to check an earlier tartan book also published by A.K Johnston that might be from the same author. I am not certain. I will be back later today. regards Donald

[Bachuil]

I have here a copy of the second edition dated 1923. There is no Livingstone Tartan. There are several references: pp125ff Under Clan Buchanan Septs 2) Dunleavy, MacKinlay etc - there appears to be more than an ordinary amount of confusion.... 2.c The Mac-an Leighs, or MacLays, or MacLeays, or Livingstones who were followers of the Stwarts of Appin. 13) MacCormack ... five MacCormacks or Buchanans were killed or wounded with the Appin Regiment at Culloden.

[Kyle2 MacLea]

When I get over to the Library of Michigan, which is

[Canadian Livingstone]

Kyle, You can purchase a first edition copy of the 1906 W and A.K. Johnston Tartan book for $883.23 in US dollars on line if all else fails. The two volume sets features illustrations of 222 tartans. A better idea might be for David to contact his contact at the National Library of SCotland, a Mr Hogg and see if could locate or make a photocopy of any and all Livingstone information and tartan that is in the 2 Volume collection. There may be a minimal charge for this, but it may prove to be advantageous. regards Donald

[Kyle2 MacLea]

I'm all for using libraries/archives whenever possible!