Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research

[Roberta Ann]

Hi Maryanne;

June 12, 1912

William Livingstone born in Thorburn age 23 s/o John and Mary Ann Livingstone married Margaret Gray Miller age 22 d/o Thomas and Jane Miller.

Residence @ time of marriage - Stellarton

Witnesses: Cassie E. McDonald, Mrs. A. F. Ross, Rev. A. J. MacDonald

Regards;

Roberta

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi All,

I was thinking about all the many Livingston pioneer family groups we have in Cape Breton and Nova Scotia and what I would like to do if no one has any objections is to focus on one family group at a time so as not to confuse things. With so many Livingston families in Nova Scotia there is room for confusion and think it is guaranteed it will happen sooner or later. Right now we are focusing on the Mull River Livingstons and the Low Point Livingston family and this marriage connection between the two families. So we brush up on the basic details of these families and the family tree aspects you all are exploring. That seems to be the direction we are heading at this point in time and seems to be our goal at the moment. Its great to see all the detailed family info you are finding on the Mull RIver and Low Point Livingston family connection. I would encourage you all to continue in that direction. I would also encourage you to make contact with any Livingston cousins with the Mull River family as a DNA test of one of this group would greatly help to identify this families connection to our suspected Mull/Movern highland Livingston group that the DNA Project is studying.

In the future we could look at some of the other Livingston families if you like in Nova Scotia and PEI. Interest has been expressed by Roberta in some of the other Livingstons that settled in Nova Scotia beginning in the 1790's and if I might I would like to go through the original pioneer Livingston families in Cape Breton and elsewhere in Nova Scotia and the extent of our knowledge of them one family at a time to provide clarity and to avoid confusion. Roberta has pointed out to me just how confusing it can be sorting out all of the Livingston families and in particular working with conflicting and contradictory information on the pioneer Livingston families. If we take one family at a time we can I believe systematically work with the existing information available and try to deal with any problems that we find.And in the process hopefully elilminating any confusion that might exist regarding these families.

The moderators of the forum have pointed out to me in the past the need to keep our postings on the forum organized in topic categories and I think that is a good approach as we may want to come back and look through old forum postings on a given topic we have discussed for example Nova Scotia/Cape Breton Livingstones and easily find info we have discussed previously. Keeping our posting organized by category is certainly a good idea.

regards,

Donald

[Jewel]

Hello Donald,

Yes it is so easy to confuse these Livingstone families in Nova Scotia and P.E.I.
I have no objections to anything that will keep us on the right track.
Roberta and I have just about all of the desendants of John who immigrated from Isle of Mull in 1806 and Christy (McPhee) Livingstone. So if you need any of that information,we have it.

Regards Jewel

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Jewel,

Thanks for that. I appreciate the detail you and Roberta have put to your pioneer Livingston family in Low Point. My project has been to identify all of the pioneer Livingston families and their first generation families in Canada and much progress has been made in some of the Provinces where highland Livingston first settled. When someone can take it to the next generation as you have all the better. You all have really accomplished something here to be proud of. As I stated in the past to Baron Livingstone and the others our ancestors from Mull, Morvern, Appin and Lismore were the lost sheep of our clan who for various reasons including the clearances left their beloved homeland to support their families finding better opportunities in lowland Scotland, Canada, Unite States, Australia and Newe Zealand. Rather than remaining unknown and forgotten clansmen from the 19th century what I am trying to do is put a name to some of them and make their family history known to our Clan Society.

regards,

Donald

[Roberta Ann]

Hi Donald;

I believe I caught your drift. Can we start with the earliest known Livingstone in Nova Scotia. Malcolm who was appointed Justice of the Peace in 1798.

Roberta

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Roberta,

Actually on second thought how would you feel if I went through the Cape Breton Livingstones and then did Malcolm as he is Antigonish County and before that Pictou County, Nova Scotia. I dont want leave the Inverness County Cape Breton Livingstone family groups incomplete and have to go back to them later. So I can quickly go through the quick essential infomation that I have on these original Cape Breton families and then we work our way over to Antigonish County, Nova Scotia and old Malcolm and his family.
regards,

Donald

[Jewel]

Hello Donald ,
This is a change of subject, but, I was at the library today useing their subscription of Ancestry.com and was looking through the 1861 census. I thought a while back you were interested in the 1861 census looking for a Colin or you said Collen Livingston, although am unaware of what area you were wanting. Is the 1861 canada census limited? I didn't see any listings for Nova Scotia.

So here it is so you won't have to wonder about this Collen Livingston.

1861 Canada

Dundas,Kent,New Brunswick

John Wilson age 70
Elizabeth Wilson 57
John Livingston 28 step son
Collen Livingston 26 step son
Peter Livingston 20 step son

Race Native(native American)

Didn't want to start a new subject matter for this Donald, just wanted to give you the info.

Jewel

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Jewel,

Well that is obvious the Coleen Livingston in the 1861 Census in New Brunswick but not the one that they stated was in the Whycocomagh Census of 1860in Cape Breton. I assumed they meant 1861 as I was not aware of a Canadian Census in 1860. Our census records were 1851,1861, 1871 etc. So we still should go through what the Cape Breton Society has in its file on Colin Livingston or Collen Livingston of Whycomagh. In any event whether we find in the 1861 or 1860 Census he is mentioned as being from Whycocomagh in his obituary of 1867. We have the 1861 Nova Scotia census I am certain at the library here because I attempted go through after going t hrough the 1871 Census and found Inverness County but could not understand the village and township breakdownn on the pages so didnt know where to look. i think Dr. St. Clair is certain that Colin was not in there so it may be foolish to try but I dont want to let Barry down in trying to find his ancestor. Anyway as soon as you have to Cape Breton Society info see if you can sort out with them Colin Livingston of Whycocomagh in the 1860 Whycocomagh Census and verify if they can that there is a 1860 Whycocomagh census because I am sceptical. I would be delighted if there was and I was wrong. I appreciate you having taken out a membership. Perhaps it will further our research efforts.

regards,

Donald

[Jewel]

Hello Donald,

Yes now I'm curious to see what the society has on this Colin Livingston. As I said earlier I sent my application in by U.S. mail last week but have heard nothing yet, gave them my e-mail address so thought I might hear from them sooner rather then by the mail system. Just have to wait it out.

Jewel

[Roberta Ann]

Hi Donald;

Do you have an idea how to begin. Of course I like your proposal and am anxious to get started. The earliest Livingstone

who I have seen and was in Cape Breton in 1803. He was John Livingstone. No, he went to Antigonish County firstly then to Little Judique. Who was the first Livingstone who landed or settled in Cape Breton? Was it our John of 1806 Low Point?

Do you have someone else in mind, Donald? I would lke to know if there were two distinct families of Livingstones in Cape Breton, as have be alleged by other researchers, or were they cousins perhaps separated by religious beliefs.

Please continue to proffer your advice, Donald and I am sure your advice will be accepted by "the Team".

Regards;

Roberta