Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Jewel,

Regarding Donald and Mary Livingston who arrived in PEI in 1806 aboard the "Rambler" as you probably remember John Collins is the expert on this pioneer PEI family. Most of what I know probably came from his groundbreaking research. Although the family was Presbyterian of CHurch of Scotland alot of the family records are from St. James Anglican CHurch, Charlottetown.

Donald Livingston 1750/1751-1840 and Mary b.1755/1756 settled at Nine Mile Creek, Charlotte Township, Queens County, PEI
Duncan (1772-1841) married Catharine b. abt. 1781 died June 22, 1875
John (1775-1859) married Isabella McGregor
Donald (1780-1865) married Flora McPhail
Flora (1788-1825)
Alexander (1790-1869) married Ann Marie Ladner married Nov. 28,1818 St. Pauls Anglican Church
Note: John Collins also notes that another daughter may have Margaret Livingston b.1773/1774 who arrived in PEI from Tobermory with husband James Currie aboard the "Spencer" also in 1806.

John talks about a map from 1863 showing a D. Livingston and nearby a A Livingston in the Nine Mile Creek area. This would have been Donald Livingston Jr. and his brother Alexander Livingston.

Some of Donald and Mary's descendants are buried at the old Canoe Cove Cemetery

[Canadian Livingstone]

HI Barry,

I had an interesting discussion with David Livington a descendant of Donald and Mary Livingston. Thanks for getting him in touch with me. How did you manage to find him?

regards,

Donald

[Canadian Livingstone]

HI Roberta,

Its nothing really. I just discovered there was more than one wikipedia information site regarding 8 or 9 vessels which were at one time or another referred to as Royal George. If you like search for "HMS Royal George Wikipedia" and then look for one that has eight or nine vessels mentioned.

I found somewhere else that there was a 1797 mutiny involving a Valentine Joyce recorded as a quartermaster's mate aboard the "Royal George". There is a very good chance that is the same ship Angus Livingston later of Cape Breton served on also in the 1790's or early 1800's I am presuming from his petition info you located yesterday. I appreciate that. It is better verifying this with the original petition information than someones secondary information. WIth our subsequent research there is little doubt he was on the Royal George probably the one that this Valentine Joyce served on in 1797 or thereabouts.

regards,

Donald

[Roberta Ann]

Hi Donald;

Thanks for that. There is a book called British Army Pensions Abroad, 1772-1899 by Norman Crowder.

I was thinking that we have enough information on the Wentworth County Livingstone's to begin a thread. This area is between Amerest and Pictou which includes Pugwash, Wallace and Vale Colliery (Thorburn). What do you think? There are John Livingston's, though, who came to Nova Scotia from the North Carolina Loyalists; which could be challenging. I have to find out when New Brunswick separated from Nova Scotia and PEI. However, I think we could nail down descendents from this area of Nova Scotia.

Regards;

Roberta

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Roberta,

Yes but remember they are likely highland Scots from Argyll that settled in the Carolinas in the 1700's and subsequently got caught up in the quarrels between the colonists and Great Britain and had to choose a side. Many of the highlanders apparently sided with the British which I alway find somewhat ironic given the treatment their parents and their grandparents likely received after the Rebellion of 1745. Like a number of North Carolina loyalist refugees after the war they made Nova Scotia their home in the 1780's.

I wonder what the source for the North Carolina loyalist story is from. Possibly another land petition. Yes definitely worth researching and discussing.

regards,

Donald

[Canadian Livingstone]

HI Roberta,

Ok I was right. I hate being right. Angus Livingston of Mull, Scotland later Cape Breton was almost certainly a sailor aboard the Royal George and I know exactly which vessel it was. It was the HMS Royal George launched the 16th of September 1888 from the Chatham Dockyards. This 100 gun warship was 190 feet long and 2286 tons. It was active with the outbreak of the French Revolutionary War in 1793 and served as the Second Flagship of the British Channel Fleet. This ship participated in the Battle of Ushant the first first and largest battle of the war involving the English and French fleet 1st June 1794,also the Battle of Groix 23th June 1795 off the west coast of France and later in 1807 the vessel was the flagship of Sir John Duckworth during the Alexandria Expedition which would have taken the ship all the way to Egypt. Hopefully when the British Archives has completed their online index of the British Military Pension records which cover Napoleonic War vets we can find more info on Angus. Perhaps someone has already done research on the crew of this ship in England. Although Angus Livingston originally apparently from Kilninian Parish, Mull is not known kin to me I am finding this quite interesting none the less. When his Cape Breton descendants drop by the forum next time they might be interested in what we have learned so far.

regards,

Donald

[Livingstone_PEI]

Hi Donald

I saw a post on the Mclea DNA Project mailing list and sent him an email. He was inroducing himself.

Barry

[Livingstone_PEI]

Hi Donald

I was talking to my Mom the other day and my grandfather John Duncan had a brother Malcolm Livingstone. Well Malcolm had a son Angus. Angus is a fairly old man now and lives in Ontario. She didn't know what part of Ontario he is from. He has a fairly large family in Ontario and this summer Angus usually will be coming to PEI, to their summer home. I will try to touch base with him when he is home. I tried to find him through searches on the internet and the white pages, but to no avail.

Barry

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Barry,
You might consider sponsoring him for the DNA Project given that he is a Livingston of your branch of the Livingston family.

regards,

Donald

[Livingstone_PEI]

Yes this summer I will see what I can do on the DNA test. It is something I really want to get done for our line of Livingstone's.

I also found this this evening. Some more history on an Angus Livingstone and the book says he is a relative of Dr. Livngstone. The book is from 1888. Rev. Jas. Barnaby Woodland married Angus' daughter in 1865.

http://books.google.com/books?id=QftYAA ... io&f=false

Barry